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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2018, 08:11:17 am »
u20 lists after the draft ( 35 x 19yo's ) :


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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2018, 09:22:39 am »
Ive wasted €111 on a useless rider.    :o
And still havent pulled a decent rider this season.

But I see some nice riders on the list. Unfortunately the distance between the nr 1 and 2 is big...

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2018, 09:42:59 am »
Ive wasted €111 on a useless rider.    :o
And still havent pulled a decent rider this season.

But I see some nice riders on the list. Unfortunately the distance between the nr 1 and 2 is big...
Same here, so far this season zero cyclists recruted or scouted who were sold.

My first choice, Duffy, looks very good as climb sprinter. My bid was very low, so someone else bought him, but good he is in the game.
I got my 3rd choice :
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1909.msg275858.html#msg275858



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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2018, 07:46:10 am »
u21 lists, 67 cyclists ( including 32 x 19yo's )

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2018, 12:15:06 pm »
STAGE 7 : WinterIsComing


11ºC

Leeds, England,
The name I gave this stage is very applicable because of the upcoming weather forecasts and of course applicable because the best young Aussies (and probably also the best foreign competition) ride for team WinterIsComing.
However and remarkable, in Leeds it is still not so cold in this u21 NT hills sprint race, just a little bit of wind.
In the picture the stage victory of Caleb Ewan in the Tour of Britain 2017, hopefully this will be a good inspiration for this u21 selection.

Australia needs the points in this race, because next week I don't expect any points on the cobblestones.
Race 9 is hard to prodict how many points there will be gained and in race 10 there is just one cylist who can score points.
So it will be very difficult this season to get on the podium in the ranking by countries. At the moment Australia is 4th.
Therefore this selection is in full battle mode. Just 1 xp cyclist is selected, the team captain of race 10. And I even selected a not experienced one and someone who is in a not active team. Both as extra helpers to get a good result for the WiC-teamcaptain.

Australia u21 selection ( in blue the xp ) :

Angus Mikkelson (20) WinterIsComing   11
Gerard Ford (20) WinterIsComing   11
Leroy Davidson (20) EskorbutoTeam   11
Kenneth Hunter (20) WinterIsComing   9
Neil Friend (20) gondolindrim   0
Markus Warrenburg (20) BetisCFF   8
Keith Owens (20) WYGRAM_to   0
Christian Madsen (20) BetisCFF   14
David Edgar (20) Drollevangers  21   8)
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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2018, 10:51:15 pm »
Very Nice result with Mikkelson tonight Vos.  :)

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2018, 06:11:06 am »
Thanks WiC  :)

Ford in a free role in order to try to get some extra points was dissapointing. Of course he had to gamble in S1, that did not work out. But I gave him lots of energy in the hills, and despite that this race was clearly not suited for him as I look at his result. He is a very good hills-sprinter when there is more flat in a race.

But good there is another WiC-cyclist, teamcaptain Mikkelson !  8)
He had a great race, also because his main helper Davidson did a perfect job and launched him into the final section.
Mikkelson finished as 2nd  8), and also Davidson scored a few points with his 11th place.

Good results and only France scored more points in this race than Australia.
Unfortunately this means 1 place down in the ranking by countries and now on the 5th place, because France overtook us.

Ranking by countries with 3 more stages to go :



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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2018, 07:53:37 pm »
STAGE 8 :

Many, many thanks to the two persons who made the Australia u21 selection in this race.

It would not have been my tactics and selection, but this selection is also very good, especially considering the fact that both have zero experience in this CFF game.
And besides that, I did not expect many points in this race, or even zero points when I would have made the selection myself. Because the young Aussies are not good on the cobblestones at all.
So this result of 60 points by the two outside CFF heroes is more than I expected.  8)

In the ranking by countries Australia u21 is still 5th with 2 more stages to go.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2018, 10:26:02 am »
70 cyclists ( including 37 x 19yo's )

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2018, 10:21:01 pm »
I see him really good, even better than Aldrin in terms of training.

Nate Owens   Edad : 20   Sueldo : 803
Resistencia : 71   Sprint : 19   Montaña : 87
LLano : 19   Pavés : 18   Tecnica : 60
Descenso : 38   Colinas : 49   Agres : 11
Crono : 4 TraEqui : 75   


Am i the only one?

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2018, 09:36:22 am »
hmmm, Nate Owens has potential because of his teamwork but he needs a lot of downhill training. He will be a pure climber, also he can ride races like stage 8 Giro, stage 5 Portugal and stage 10 Vuelta.

Compared to Henry Aldrin, hmmmmm, possibly I agree with you because he needs a lot of technique training, and that is just a third skill. Better if a cyclist has to train a second skill like downhill to get better.
Also Henry Aldrin has great teamwork and potential. But despite the fact he is way better now then Nate Owens, Aldrin is more limited in the future because he also will be a pure climber but his hills are lower and his TT is very good but the very low technique makes that TT skill not worthy. But positive for Aldrin is that he has the benifit of a rain icon.

Recap : difficult question, FlandriaFussion, I m not sure of the answer.  :)
I think in the end the talent rating decides who will be the better cyclist, Owens or Aldrin. Also I think the talent rating should be very high in order to compete with the fierce competition in the pure mountain stages.
But you will make a (perhaps big) profit on them both because you bought them both extreme cheap, and that is always good^^

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2018, 09:53:39 am »
He has to train good amount of Descent, but not that much. He's "only" 22 points under 60 which we can consider a good rate. And he wil get into +40 with 0 Descent training before 23.

I've seen the best pure climbers of his generation, and i dare say he's right now on the Top 5 best pure climbers of his age, with Ojeda, Meling, Saxon and Hoyland and he potentially will become the best or second best pure climber on my team.

He has mountain on the perfect level to be trained and an unrivalled Teamwork.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2018, 10:52:12 am »
It could be that your expertise on this subject is way and way higher then mine, Flandria, just trying to answer with my limited knowledge  ;)
But first Nate Owens has to practise as helper on the Mont Ventoux, a good experience for him to ride that notorious mountain.
Preview and selection are in progress and will be posted here soon.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2018, 11:12:25 am »
22 points below 60+ is an extra season of DH training.  Are you going to put in the 3 seasons of specialist DH training he needs?  Personally, as somebody who'll be interested in buying climbers once I've finished most of my flat training, I'd want somebody with high climb & DH first (but that doesn't matter as much if you're keeping him until old age).
I do like that he hasn't wasted much in sprint, flat, cobbles, or TT.
I don't know what the competition is like, so I can't compare (is it my imagination, or is there a decisively lack of quality available on the market?).

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2018, 11:23:53 am »
STAGE 9 :  MONT VENTOUX / SACIDO


21ºC

Loriol, France,
A lot of hills, a lot of kilometers, and in the middle of the race the notorious Mont Ventoux !
It is up to the Australian Sacido cyclists to score many points here in order to still get a good result this season.

At the moment 5th in the ranking by countries and it will be very hard or even impossible to get on the podium this season.
But Australia is one of the smallest CFF countries, so a top 5 would be awesome too despite the fact the previous two seasons ( when I was u21 NT manager ;) :)) ) Australia u21 had twice a second place. But these results were CFF history records of Australia u21 and that cannot happen every season with such a small CFF country.

Difficult for me to estimate the percentages of this race, so just 1 real xp cyclist is selected and Australia will be in full battle mode with different kind of hills-climbers as extra helpers in case my percentages are wrong. Sam Sand is not selected because he is not active, instead of him Ted Jordan will make his debute, his stamina is way too low for this race but perhaps he can be of use in the first 2 sections and he is not unexperienced, also important in most cases to get a selection for Australia.
Also hard for me to prodict how this race will go so the tactics will be a bit of a gamble, but in any case it seems to me it is important that the team captain still has some help on the Mont Ventoux.

Australia u21 selection ( in blue the xp ) :

Elgin Paxton (20) Sacido   5
Richard King (20) Sacido   7
Nick Owens (19) Sacido   8
Christian Madsen (20) BetisCFF   15
Bruce Woods (20) WYGRAM_to   0
Colin Chambers (20) skunk   4
Nate Owens (20) FlandriaFussion  4
Ted Jordan (20) Telleriarte  5
David Edgar (20) Drollevangers   25   8)
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