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Title: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on October 29, 2012, 12:40:32 pm
Here you can ask about almost everything  :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 29, 2012, 02:12:59 pm
Maybe change the topic to Ask anything or something. I have always found doubts a strange topic title :P. And maybe add a link to the other topic so that all those questions dont get lost.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on October 29, 2012, 02:29:32 pm
OK, I've just change the title  ;).

The other topic is going to be deleted in a few days. That's the main reason for opening other topic. We need to increase the game performance and we're deleting older topics and topics with more than 1000 posts are being closed in order to delete them in a few days  ;).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 29, 2012, 02:31:03 pm
OK, I've just change the title  ;).

The other topic is going to be deleted in a few days. That's the main reason for opening other topic. We need to increase the game performance and we're deleting older topics and topics with more than 1000 posts are being closed in order to delete them in a few days  ;).
But there is a lot of useful info. in such topics...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 29, 2012, 02:34:36 pm
Maybe on the Dutch forum we could open a new "koersen" "tranfermarkt" and "talenten" topic. Koersen has like 250 pages the others 120 or so.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on October 29, 2012, 02:36:36 pm
Do you think someone is going to read the whole doubts thread?
It's a thread without any structure and it is almost impossible to find there something you're asking. In fact when you have a doubt you make another question instead of reading the whole thread.

We've the FAQ that have the most important questions answered  ;).

If you think that any thread shouldn't be deleted we can talk about it, but in my opinion the doubts thread isn't very useful. However osca rules  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on October 29, 2012, 02:38:22 pm
Maybe on the Dutch forum we could open a new "koersen" "tranfermarkt" and "talenten" topic. Koersen has like 250 pages the others 120 or so.

The dutch moderators know that they have to do this. However if you want you can also do it  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on October 29, 2012, 02:58:13 pm
Do you think someone is going to read the whole doubts thread?
It's a thread without any structure and it is almost impossible to find there something you're asking. In fact when you have a doubt you make another question instead of reading the whole thread.

We've the FAQ that have the most important questions answered  ;).

If you think that any thread shouldn't be deleted we can talk about it, but in my opinion the doubts thread isn't very useful. However osca rules  ;)

I agree. Not all information should be saved. But I'll try to save some. Like this post of Pantani. I think, I will need it at the end of the season.

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Imagine that your rider has been in a training camp and he has finished his bonus before the stage 104 (it is vital that he had already finished his bonus before this stage), you can send your rider again to a training camp (if you want to do it). He would start the training camp again but his bonus won't take effect until the following season.

(Etapa = Stage)

Etapa 104   Etapa 1   Bealach Challenge
Etapa 105   Etapa 2   Melbourne Classic
Etapa 106   Etapa 3   Het Volk
Etapa 107   Etapa 4   Kuurne B Kuurne
Etapa 108   Etapa 5   Nokere Koorse Nokere
Etapa 109   Etapa 6   Monte Paschi Eroica
Etapa 110   Etapa 7   GP Zottegem
Etapa 111   Etapa 8   Paris Niza
Etapa 112   Etapa 9   
Etapa 113   Etapa 10   
Etapa 114   Etapa 11   
Etapa 115   Etapa 12   
Etapa 116   Etapa 13   GP le Samyn
Etapa 117   Etapa 14   Tirreno Adriático
Etapa 118   Etapa 15

Be aware that despite the fact that you sent him the previous season, he benefits the bonus in the current season and you can't send him to a training camp again. (You would be able to send him after the stage 104 if you liked)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 29, 2012, 03:12:17 pm
Maybe on the Dutch forum we could open a new "koersen" "tranfermarkt" and "talenten" topic. Koersen has like 250 pages the others 120 or so.

The dutch moderators know that they have to do this. However if you want you can also do it  ;)

Hehe, no. If its something the moderaters know they should do it :P I'm not a moderator, just a simple user.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on October 29, 2012, 03:18:04 pm
OK Johnny, what we can do is to include that information in the FAQ. So everybody can write here what info they want to store, and then we'll think how to include it in the FAQ section  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on October 29, 2012, 03:21:15 pm
I have to finnish the FAQ.

The last FAQ dissapeared, but oska found some of the posts. I have them on my email, so I will try to write all of them again ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 29, 2012, 08:12:31 pm
The site seems very slow. But stranger, some pictures of the races don't work anymore.

Examples from the calendar: (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/nokere.jpg) (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/paschi.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 08:26:39 pm
Updates make site slower in high users activity. It is a risk but for quit always I have time.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 29, 2012, 09:51:04 pm
Copied from the 'Doubts' thread, as I still have some follow-up questions;

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Question: At what time is the weekly sponsor payment on monday? I'm trying to figure out what went wrong tonight, as I spent almost 7 million on a 29-year old rider I didn't want.  :-\

I assumed that I changed my bid into an amount of cash I couldn't pay, due to the fact that I signed in some riders for last night's race afterwards, but this morning I found out that I got some extra cash before the transfer window was open and I was able to make the transfer. Now I'm stuck with a rider I didn't want and I'm without any cash left.

I thought that the sponsor payment was made at the same time (9am) as the weekly salaries have to be paid, but I think I made a costly mistake there, which ends all my aspirations for this season in 2nd division before even 1 race was done. :-[

On the positive side: at least I have made another manager (CyclingKRC) very happy with that transfer, lol ;)

Osca's response:

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Weekly income is at 9:00 . Same time salaries are paid and supporters save their skills and finances.

If that's the case, is there anything else I have been missing? I'm 99% sure I've triple-checked the amount I bid was higher than the amount of money I had on my bank account this weekend, after I signed up some riders for the first race. So, there must be a reason why I got a bit of money before the transfer window on 01:00 CET. I just don't see it. Can anyone clear this up for me, please?

If it's a stupid mistake by myself, I'm fully accountable. But if something went wrong with the bonus system or something like that, I'd like to know.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 09:58:16 pm
This system works perfect, it is the same since 2006, hehe.
If it has a mistake it would be for more teams and until now I never find a bug.
If you have the money and you are best big you get.
If you have in that moment 20 cyclists you don't get.

No more options.
Sometimes with international scout money can't change and people in your team too.
But system don't have any problem, sure.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 29, 2012, 10:10:58 pm
This system works perfect, it is the same since 2006, hehe.
If it has a mistake it would be for more teams and until now I never find a bug.
If you have the money and you are best big you get.
If you have in that moment 20 cyclists you don't get.

No more options.
Sometimes with international scout money can't change and people in your team too.
But system don't have any problem, sure.

I'm still wondering though...

On my financial screen, it says that I've won €25.000 in prize money in the current season, but I didn't score a single point in the first 2 stages? Where does this money come from?

I'm confused and I'm just wondering where I went wrong? I don't blame the system for it, but I just want to know what I'm missing here.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 10:12:40 pm
I talk about bids process ( nights at 1:00)
Financial screen was updated and it could be bugs in storing results .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 29, 2012, 10:14:43 pm
I talk about bids process ( nights at 1:00)
Financial screen was updated and it could be bugs in storing results .

I think I have myself to blame, Stevwonder helped me clear it up. The €25.000 are from the 2nd round in CFF Cup. That must be the reason why I had enough money to pass the transfer...

Stupid me :o

Hope that others will learn from my mistakes, lol  :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 10:26:34 pm
I check all process.
All is Ok, I check prizes in post-stage process, today morning process , season process and I see all teams that pass round have 25000.
When I enter here to post I see you find the problem ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 29, 2012, 10:29:11 pm
I check all process.
All is Ok, I check prizes in post-stage process, today morning process , season process and I see all teams that pass round have 25000.
When I enter here to post I see you find the problem ;)

I'll never forget anymore that CFF-cup money is paid out before transfer window  ::)

Thx for checking anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 10:31:10 pm
It would be a big problem money without sense :) I didn't remember cup money . Last season other team ask the same :S
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on October 29, 2012, 10:43:03 pm
Since there's no bugs section, I will report it here:

Yesterday in the U23 NT time trial there was an "extra" Danish rider, Joakim Krægpøth (who is a free rider currently), racing - and I don't think I picked him by mistake during the week (but maybe I did, I did have some riders transfer in and out due to trying out various GV's). No matter what he raced as the tenth rider, somewhat of a mistake - even though he by far was the worst rider in the time trial  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 11:05:10 pm
Yes, free cyclists in 1st stage could do these problems, it is not 1st time.

If a NT manager have problems choosing send me a personal mail and I correct it manually.
Sorry
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 11:19:21 pm
The site seems very slow. But stranger, some pictures of the races don't work anymore.

Examples from the calendar: (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/nokere.jpg) (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/paschi.jpg)

Is faster now?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 29, 2012, 11:31:58 pm
Perfect. Just the pictures in the calendar of stages 5 and 6 are still grey.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 29, 2012, 11:34:49 pm
Maybe browser caché
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 29, 2012, 11:54:26 pm
Of course that was the problem. Fixed now. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on October 30, 2012, 07:32:08 pm
I got questions on Footstar that they notice problems trying to register for this forum (error occured).

What can be the problem?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 30, 2012, 07:34:16 pm
Since I change some things installing a security mod with forum register we have some problems.

I quit the mod but problems continue. If I quit all security everyday I will have to check 50 or more false users because there are spambots that login every day. Actually with these problems I have 10-20 false users every day :(

If they want to register, send me mail to admin@cyclingforfun.org with user , pass and mail and I will activate as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on October 30, 2012, 07:51:33 pm
Thnx, I quoted your text on the footstar forum.

I saw 4a3 is going very well with a lot of newbies! :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 30, 2012, 08:06:49 pm
I am promoting during this time, but I can't do too much without your help because 1000 users know more people and sites than 1 :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Borshow on November 03, 2012, 11:02:03 am
osca, there is a bug in group 3d. Almoast in every race there is the same guy in the top of the favorites. Even if the guy ends after the race 71th place. The rider name is Gábos Vaskó. Probably the other guys too are not favorites.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 04, 2012, 07:55:00 pm
I have a rider who has been picked for the U21 and U23 race  ???
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 04, 2012, 07:56:34 pm
You can only hope he comes back in one!  ???
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 04, 2012, 08:02:17 pm
I have a rider who has been picked for the U21 and U23 race  ???
Not a problem. They take place half an hour after each other. It's even possible to be selected for all 3 NT-races in one night.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 04, 2012, 08:17:33 pm
As RaboRuben  said, he can race 3 races today.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 05, 2012, 11:55:32 am
You can only hope he comes back in one!  ???

I would rather he came back as two riders with the same talents  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2012, 06:24:37 pm
Last season i finished 9th in the Eneco Tour (with Joonas Taaramae). But on my team page no top 10 is shown there. Is this a bug?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 06, 2012, 07:44:25 pm
Last season i finished 9th in the Eneco Tour (with Joonas Taaramae). But on my team page no top 10 is shown there. Is this a bug?
Only national, U23, U21 races and 1st division results are stored.  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2012, 09:19:45 pm
Last season i finished 9th in the Eneco Tour (with Joonas Taaramae). But on my team page no top 10 is shown there. Is this a bug?
Only national, U23, U21 races and 1st division results are stored.  ;)

It was top 10 in the first division :P

Edit: was the Deutschland Tour. But i see the top 3 stored of the GC. Not the top 10.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on November 10, 2012, 09:23:26 am
Bug?

I pulled a "hills" riderthis morning, but this is the way he looks:

Leon Kristiansen   Age : 20   Wage : 382
Stamina : 25   Sprint : 31   Climbing : 4
Flat : 24   Cobblestone : 6   Technique : 2
Downhill : 56   Hills : 49   Aggressiveness : 3
Time Trial : 11   Teamwork : 65   Experience : 0
Price :   Days left :   Stages raced : 0

Besides the fact that he sucks, shouldn't he at least have had 50 in hills?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 10, 2012, 09:32:19 am
Maybe you din't select hills because hills must be more than 50, but aggr must be more than 25, other limits are Ok.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on November 10, 2012, 01:47:54 pm
I guess there's no way to prove it, but I'm as sure as I can be that I selected "hills" as speciality...that's why I wrote it here.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 10, 2012, 02:12:32 pm
Pff, Kazistuta. You pull such a crack and still you are complaining?  ??? ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 14, 2012, 11:39:12 am
This is a question about the helper role.

The leader get the benefit from a helper if they are in the same section.
During that section the helper loose a little "effort". Am I right about this? Or do he loose "effort" because he is helper in general. Whether he is in the same section or not?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 14, 2012, 12:50:12 pm
He lose effort always.
If not it would be easy put more helpers because if you don't find best tactic ( putting him with your leader) you have a free role.
You must choose if you want win using a helper or you try put him in best position as free role.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 15, 2012, 09:22:09 am
Is there a way to see how many points the winner of last years national jersey scored in that season?
Title: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 15, 2012, 10:49:57 am
We only store winner name and team. Points only top 10 in overall classement.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on November 15, 2012, 10:55:44 am
Is there a way to see how many points the winner of last years national jersey scored in that season?

The ukranian one?  :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 15, 2012, 10:57:40 am
Is there a way to see how many points the winner of last years national jersey scored in that season?

The ukranian one?  :P

Yes :P But also other ones, for the future.

But thanks Osca :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 15, 2012, 01:03:23 pm
I have just received an email saying a rider is for sale. I've never had this before is it a new feature? If so can Ipick which sort of rider I get emailled about?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on November 15, 2012, 01:06:56 pm
If you're a supporter and the rider is on your favourites, then you'll receive the message  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 15, 2012, 01:16:02 pm
He isn't, and I have the option to add him as a Favourite, which would be remove him from Favourites?

I don't think that I have any favourites.

(OK, I have added him now, but the button doesn't change, which it probably should?)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on November 15, 2012, 01:31:18 pm
He isn't, and I have the option to add him as a Favourite, which would be remove him from Favourites?

I don't think that I have any favourites.

(OK, I have added him now, but the button doesn't change, which it probably should?)

If you want to delete a rider from your favourites you have to go to supporters->favourites and to click on the red cross beside the rider  ;).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 15, 2012, 01:36:05 pm
Indeed, but he wasn't a favourite before, lol.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 15, 2012, 03:14:06 pm
Indeed, but he wasn't a favourite before, lol.
He was. A rider that is in your favourites list still has the button 'add to favourites', it just doesn't do anything anymore.
But there is no way that you receive such an email without having the rider in your favourites list.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 15, 2012, 03:52:03 pm
Exactly why I asked, as I don't have any. Very weird...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 20, 2012, 11:48:55 am
I am aware that the outcome of a race can differ because of a random variable in the game engine ;)

Is the standard deviation the same in all kind of races?
- or:
Influenced by the hardness of a race?
Influenced by other variables?

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 20, 2012, 08:43:19 pm
Something very strange in the last race, in my disadvantage...

In the 'last race' result Theis Stovring is shown as second place:
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/carrera1.php?divi=1a&tramo=5

But in the final ranking page he is shown as third place, and that is what I have been awarded...:
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/replay1v.php?nombrevu=&&etapa=GP%20Aarhus&division=1a&temporada=9

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 20, 2012, 08:49:45 pm
:D
A strange sucess that any time could happen :)

Both have 0,9715 seconds and system has choosen one different to show in stage and when it order by time.

1 beetween 10000 possibilities
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 20, 2012, 08:57:34 pm
:D
A strange sucess that any time could happen :)

Both have 0,9715 seconds and system has choosen one different to show in stage and when it order by time.

1 beetween 10000 possibilities

I want to file a formal complaint with the race-jury!

(http://www.thenational.ae/deployedfiles/Assets/Richmedia/Image/AD201010707129842AR.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 20, 2012, 09:05:28 pm
CCT sent me better gift :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 21, 2012, 03:28:25 pm
I have had a quick look, and can not find the answer to the following:

What order do transfers happen?

I have 19 riders, with bids on two of them, and I have bid on one rider, which should* leave me with 18.

So if the riders leave before new ones join I can bid\promote 2 more riders?

*should meaning if the bstrds have the money and space for them  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on November 21, 2012, 03:31:33 pm
:D
A strange sucess that any time could happen :)

Both have 0,9715 seconds and system has choosen one different to show in stage and when it order by time.

1 beetween 10000 possibilities

I want to file a formal complaint with the race-jury!

(http://www.thenational.ae/deployedfiles/Assets/Richmedia/Image/AD201010707129842AR.jpg)

I also want to file a formal complaint, xD

(http://www.ligafutbol.net/wp-content/2010/07/patada-de-jong.jpg)

Your photo rembered me Niel De Jong, xD
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on November 21, 2012, 03:31:37 pm
I have had a quick look, and can not find the answer to the following:

What order do transfers happen?

I have 19 riders, with bids on two of them, and I have bid on one rider, which should* leave me with 18.

So if the riders leave before new ones join I can bid\promote 2 more riders?

*should meaning if the bstrds have the money and space for them  >:( >:(

highest transaction first.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 21, 2012, 03:31:58 pm
Bids are in order higher to lower price.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 21, 2012, 03:54:00 pm
Sorry, I should have been clearer: do the riders leave the team, before the new ones come in?

Or are you saying that ALL bids are done in price order, regardless of the teams?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on November 21, 2012, 03:55:37 pm

Or are you saying that ALL bids are done in price order, regardless of the teams?

Yes, 'highest transaction first.'
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 21, 2012, 03:55:48 pm
YOu have bid 50000 buy you sell one by 100000.
First you sell by 100000 and you have 1 free slot in your team and after you get one by 50000.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on November 21, 2012, 04:12:09 pm
Many thanks, I had assumed that it was just for each team that it was performed in that order.

It may be worth putting this in the FAQ's?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Borshow on November 24, 2012, 01:36:03 pm
osca, i have problem with the search in U21! The search doesnt find everybody!
Is it poosible, that who i choose once, that rider dont find again?
Title: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 24, 2012, 02:12:52 pm
I didn't touch anything, is the same for all Nt managers. I can't check anthing until tomorrow night :(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Borshow on November 24, 2012, 03:16:31 pm
I think, that only that rider are missing, who i choosed before to next stage.

I searched first. After that i choosed some rider to add to starter list. After that i searched again, and i dont see the riders, who i picked before and who are on starter list already. It is working so?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 24, 2012, 03:38:01 pm
Yes, if you select and confirm a rider he will not show up in the search results again.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Borshow on November 24, 2012, 03:53:25 pm
Okay, then that was the problem.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: stevwonder on November 24, 2012, 10:19:18 pm
There is a ' bug'  if you are searching the TL.
If you have more than 40 results you can go to a 2nd, 3th etc page. Strange things happen if you go tho the 2nd page.
1. Page 2 had a different styling than page 1
2. Sometimes I will get the same results from page 1 again at page 2 (on page 1 results between 19 and 24 years old, at page to I see results between 23 and 26 years?) I see some riders from page 1 also on page 2. Thats really strange
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on December 05, 2012, 07:03:58 am
After the recent change at the team page, so you can see the national team jersey of the riders who are selected for NT duty, I can't copy/paste from my team page anymore. The jersey leaves a big blank space in my excel sheet every time. Does anyone experience the same problem? Or perhaps know how to correct this?

If not, could you please change it back, Osca? Right now my worksheet f**** up due to this small design change......
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 05, 2012, 08:41:43 am
Until today all people tell me they like new page .
I try people know if they have cyclists in NT better than only a cold message.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on December 05, 2012, 09:30:53 am
Have you tried the Paste special in excel? You can select to paste it without format and without pictures.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on December 05, 2012, 03:17:21 pm
I've tried paste special as text, unicode and html - all with the same result   :'(

(som of them even pastes the picture of the NT race as well)

I really can't figure out why noone else have had this problem. Maybe you could fix my problem by making a simpler "pure text version" (like the former one) and make a link "for copy/paste", just like the ones you have on the rider pages?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 05, 2012, 03:22:09 pm
Send me a mail to remember it, I will try add a pure text version ( copy-paste) in the page.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on December 05, 2012, 09:14:12 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/2estrellas.jpg)

In the sponsor submenu, I have 2 stars in the ´Sponsor Prestige Level´, but I have not obtained the achievement 'Sponsor Prestige Level 2'

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/prestigio2.jpg)

Don't the stars and the achievements on sponsor prestige level match?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 05, 2012, 09:15:43 pm
Did you get this prestige after today races?

Wait until tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on December 05, 2012, 09:59:11 pm
Did you get this prestige after today races?

Wait until tomorrow ;)

No, I'm already at prestige level 2 since one of last season's final stages (Züri-Metzgete). At that moment, I got 2 stars, but was on 0% towards the next level, so I thought maybe I was just on the breakpoint.

This season, I gained 8% in the 2nd stage of Tour de Suisse. I waited a few days, but nothing happened?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 05, 2012, 10:43:34 pm
Sorry, stars prestige are different levels that distinctions prestige.
You must reach level 3 to get it.

Only 4 teams have level 3 sponsors at moment :KTeamRC, WheelsofNimitz,chi and CLAS.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on December 05, 2012, 10:45:46 pm
Sorry, stars prestige are different levels that distinctions prestige.
You must reach level 3 to get it.

Only 4 teams have level 3 sponsors at moment :KTeamRC, WheelsofNimitz,chi and CLAS.

Okay, thanks for clearing this up.

It's a bit misleading though, since you use the same words for it.  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 05, 2012, 10:51:20 pm
I had to check it, sometimes I forget what do when I programmed these things  ???
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on December 06, 2012, 01:49:23 pm
Since the forum was renewed or something(?) I am getting send emails to my personal mailadres to notify me of private messages on the forum. How can I turn this off?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 06, 2012, 03:12:49 pm
Because maybe you are subscribed to these topics, in forum profile you can quit it.
I changed our mail config and now we can send you mails. Before although you have active topics, you didn't receive any mail.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on December 06, 2012, 09:42:40 pm
@Osca: excellent game you have here, and your efforts are appreciated. (I know debugging etc can be a pain..)

I do think the single Transfer Market thread would be good, though - to save posting in 3 different ones, even if people don't use it to buy people, lol.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: lacrepe on December 07, 2012, 06:55:37 am
Hello,

I am a newer and I have a question.
How is given the general ranking after each step of a tour?

I didn't found this information after the second step of tour of France.

By advance thank you,
Lacrepe LesPédalesFolles (4c3)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on December 07, 2012, 08:34:18 am
If you want to find the ranking of the tours check: Races-> Rankings->Search Tour

If you want to know how the rankings are calculated: At the end of every stage riders have a time (time of the winner+whatever they are behind. These will be added to each other (and all other stages of the Tour ofcourse) and thats the General ranking. Similar to real life but we dont have time bonusses at the finish line.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 07, 2012, 01:19:14 pm
Every second you see ( I have 3-4 decimals) and in every stage we add decimals to know real time.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on December 19, 2012, 09:42:11 am
When im typing text in the comment section for riders and i place an enter it doesnt show on the profile page, but it did before. (Maybe its also a nice idea to make a list below the comment section with which codes can be used).

I get this:
Cliff joined Team Rolf from the national youth selection of Australia at 19 years of age. He was one of the most talented hillers of his generation. He finished 4th in an u21 national team race. After that he went training for a few seasons. He was not yet ready to ride good results in the first division. In season 9 he focussed his entire season around one race: the hill stage in the Tour de France. It was an immense surprise when he won it. But it underlined this kangaroos skill on a bike. 4º Stage 2 Season 6 U21 National Team


Instead of this:
Cliff joined Team Rolf from the national youth selection of Australia at 19 years of age. He was one of the most talented hillers of his generation. He finished 4th in an u21 national team race. After that he went training for a few seasons. He was not yet ready to ride good results in the first division.

In season 9 he focussed his entire season around one race: the hill stage in the Tour de France. It was an immense surprise when he won it. But it underlined this kangaroos skill on a bike.

4º Stage 2 Season 6 U21 National Team



Another question: Are you planning on placing a picture on the profile page of a rider where the white silhouette is now?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 19, 2012, 10:42:49 am
1- I didn't use codes, html codes are allowed ( at moment while I don't see problems in design). Some users can talk about it.

2- We didn't choose a good solution and how to do this. Some users don't like cartoons as photos and I didn't know how to do this ( as moment we will continue) because I don't like every user has different design (different photo style or cartoon style).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on January 01, 2013, 08:44:55 pm
Is it too late to list a Rider tomorrow to create a space for promoting a Youth?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 01, 2013, 08:56:28 pm
Is it too late to list a Rider tomorrow to create a space for promoting a Youth?

You have to do it today. Tomorrow is 1 day too late.

1st day wednesdaymorning
2nd thursdaymorning
3rd fridaymorning
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 01, 2013, 08:57:02 pm
We have selling process this night ( tue-wed), tomorrow ( wed-thu) and day after tomorrow ( thu -fri) . Friday- Saturday we don't have transfers only the process of end of season ( DRAFT).

If you list now you can sell before Draft, if you list after 1:00 you cannot get free space.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on January 02, 2013, 12:49:40 pm
Many thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 10, 2013, 07:27:51 am
Why do I see a -1 on Aggression while he is 25 years old and training Climbing?


'Agressiveness can not be trained, but it will increase by 10% of the `base training speed` if the rider trains in HILLS or SPRINT, and will decrease by 5% of the `base training speed` if the rider trains in FLAT or STAMINA.'
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 10, 2013, 08:09:40 am
It must be an mistake making help section. Training has not changed from 6 years ago.
Climb, flat and stamina decrease aggres.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 10, 2013, 08:16:37 am
Clear.

The text in the Help has to be completed with 'çlimbing'.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 10, 2013, 08:19:20 am
In dutch:  'Bij het trainen van klimmen, vlak of conditie neemt de explosiviteit dagelijks af met vijf procent van de trainingssnelheid.'

In english: 'Agressiveness can not be trained, but it will increase by 10% of the `base training speed` if the rider trains in HILLS or SPRINT, and will decrease by 5% of the `base training speed` if the rider trains CLIMBING, FLAT or STAMINA.'
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 10, 2013, 12:39:51 pm
Thanks, I will update it this night.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 10, 2013, 09:46:40 pm
It must be an mistake making help section. Training has not changed from 6 years ago.
Climb, flat and stamina decrease aggres.
I know you have declined this around a year ago.  :P
Aggression are not significant on mountain stages when they end on a climb!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 11, 2013, 12:50:42 am
Aggr are not significant, I talk about training decrease aggres. The training is the same a long time ago and engine too.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on January 11, 2013, 11:34:21 am
I seem to be on a bad roll with Draft "Skills", with last night's already being known - just checking that I was unlucky, again, rather than new ones not having been produced\shown.

Is there any way that we could ask for two or three Skills per rider to be shown? This could be done near the end of the Draft cycle, to stop people from getting two or three for a lot of riders.....
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 16, 2013, 07:11:30 am
If a domestic is vastly superior to the leader in a stage section, will he stay with the leader, or leave the leader behind?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 16, 2013, 08:33:27 am
That depends on the tactics set. It is possible for the domestique to ride in a group in front of the leader. He will not automatically stay with him.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 17, 2013, 06:26:26 am
How much is this guy worth?
2nd Question.  If I sell him, what should I list him at? (they're possibly different answers)

Age 19
Stamina   56   Sprint   56
Climbing   23   Flat   50
Cobblestone   20   Technique   69
Downhill   5   Hills   20
Aggressiveness   47   Time Trial   39
Teamwork 60
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 17, 2013, 07:44:03 am
How much is this guy worth?
2nd Question.  If I sell him, what should I list him at? (they're possibly different answers)

Age 19
Stamina   56   Sprint   56
Climbing   23   Flat   50
Cobblestone   20   Technique   69
Downhill   5   Hills   20
Aggressiveness   47   Time Trial   39
Teamwork 60

Also Aggr is (very) important for sprinters. I think this one isnt very attractive for other sprinttrainers, because he hasnt high mainskills (65+ on sprint or Flat)
I would list him for 1
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 17, 2013, 08:03:38 am
Thx Telemon

New question:
With rider performance: If a race has 4 flat stages, then 1 mountain, does it calculate each section individually, or average the sections together with just the effort level used calculated separately?

Thx Sjis
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 17, 2013, 08:11:54 am
The last. A GV is calculated for the entire stage. Then you receive bonusses for the entire stage(ie weather bonus) and bonusses per section like helper present, surface bonus, energy points spend etc.

In real life a sprinter without flat would be useful in stages like that, in CFF he is a lot less useful :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 17, 2013, 11:12:05 am
How much is this guy worth?
2nd Question.  If I sell him, what should I list him at? (they're possibly different answers)

Age 19
Stamina   56   Sprint   56
Climbing   23   Flat   50
Cobblestone   20   Technique   69
Downhill   5   Hills   20
Aggressiveness   47   Time Trial   39
Teamwork 60

Also Aggr is (very) important for sprinters. I think this one isnt very attractive for other sprinttrainers, because he hasnt high mainskills (65+ on sprint or Flat)
I would list him for 1

I can understand why you are in doubt  :P
He is very close at being a crack but his low aggressiveness makes him sub standard. You can't train the aggr. skill.

Stamina   56   Sprint   56
Climbing   23   Flat   50
Cobblestone   20   Technique   69
Downhill   5   Hills   20
Aggressiveness   75   Time Trial   39
Teamwork 60

I would recomend this rider to my friend who trains sprint riders  ::) His 2 most important skills sprint and flat are low. The best sprinter will have 100 sprint and 90 in flat! So it will take a little longer to reach this mark but not much.
But skills like stamina, technique and teamwork are a real pain to train for a sprinter and they are pretty good .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 21, 2013, 08:52:42 pm
With 'promote U23 cyclist', I assume there's no scenario where it's worth keeping or selling a 20 year old?

Quote
Aged 20
Stamina   42   Sprint   67
Climbing   4   Flat   61
Cobblestone   46   Technique   72
Downhill   22   Hills   20
Aggressiveness   61   Time Trial   9
Teamwork   7   Experience   0

edit: Thx Sjiz
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 22, 2013, 08:19:49 am
Well, in some cases there is. A major crack you get at the beginning of the season which is 20 yo and has a high talent. Otherwise no :P (well, 4th division teams can usually score with a fresh pull in a race.)

If you get somthing like this at the start of the season i would think about it:
Aged 20
Stamina   60   Sprint   67
Climbing   4   Flat   68
Cobblestone   46   Technique   72
Downhill   22   Hills   20
Aggressiveness   75   Time Trial   9
Teamwork   70   Experience   0
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on January 22, 2013, 11:28:05 am
When I want to sack my freshly pulled rider and I push the ´sack´button, I´m being transferred to my ´Team´ page, instead of the screen where I am given the choice to accept his resignation?

Never had this before, but obviously I'd like this to be solved before I can promote another youngster after tonight's race.

Anyone have the same problem?

It's about this rider. http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=162016 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=162016) . (wish he was 19 yrs, than I wouldn't have this problem ;) )
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 22, 2013, 12:05:43 pm
When I want to sack my freshly pulled rider and I push the ´sack´button, I´m being transferred to my ´Team´ page, instead of the screen where I am given the choice to accept his resignation?

Never had this before, but obviously I'd like this to be solved before I can promote another youngster after tonight's race.

Anyone have the same problem?

It's about this rider. http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=162016 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=162016) . (wish he was 19 yrs, than I wouldn't have this problem ;) )

I can't check it now, but it is the same page 1 year ago and nobody had errors.

Do you sign up for next race ? I thought he is not in NT, but from here I don't remember all factors that don't let you fire off a cyclist.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on January 22, 2013, 01:15:13 pm
When I want to sack my freshly pulled rider and I push the ´sack´button, I´m being transferred to my ´Team´ page, instead of the screen where I am given the choice to accept his resignation?

Never had this before, but obviously I'd like this to be solved before I can promote another youngster after tonight's race.

Anyone have the same problem?

It's about this rider. http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=162016 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=162016) . (wish he was 19 yrs, than I wouldn't have this problem ;) )

I can't check it now, but it is the same page 1 year ago and nobody had errors.

Do you sign up for next race ? I thought he is not in NT, but from here I don't remember all factors that don't let you fire off a cyclist.

Problem solved, thanks. I accidentaly signed him up for next race indeed. My bad...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 22, 2013, 01:17:26 pm
Maybe an idea to give an error when someone tries to fire someone who is signed up for a race or otherwise.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on January 22, 2013, 01:31:55 pm
Maybe an idea to give an error when someone tries to fire someone who is signed up for a race or otherwise.

+1
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 22, 2013, 03:58:51 pm
The error is go to status page :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 22, 2013, 04:04:42 pm
To some that may not be clear :P (as WIC shows :D), a different page with some text like Cant sack cyclist, he may be signed up for a stage, etc may be clearer.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 27, 2013, 07:00:21 am
Some CFF nations only have 8 or 9 active teams.  Question I have about national team elections is the proceedure of what happens when a nation doesn't have candidates for all three positions, and what happens in this case if a promoting team (only teams in top 3 divs can be NT managers) or promoted team is interested in such a position.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 27, 2013, 08:43:04 am
Some CFF nations only have 8 or 9 active teams.  Question I have about national team elections is the proceedure of what happens when a nation doesn't have candidates for all three positions, and what happens in this case if a promoting team (only teams in top 3 divs can be NT managers) or promoted team is interested in such a position.

I contact with best teams in the country in rank order to be NT manager.
New teams don't have experience to be NT managers , they don't know who must race and how works our engine.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on January 27, 2013, 07:20:20 pm
Since we are on the topic of NT I have a question, is it in the spirit of this game to pick cyclists that are not time trialists over specialist in order to gain experience?
In this case I found out because my cyclist didn't get picked but that's not realy my point, just a little. ;)
If you look at the selection of Hungary/Magyarország, there's only 4 time trial specialists and the rest are cobblers, climbers etc.
I understand why that is, experience, but I don't think it's what the NT's are ment for.
Yes, I asked the BC of Hungary and he told me my cyclist wasn't gonna score points but isn't that the case for about 150 cyclist in a NT race?
So I browsed through other small countries' selections but they do select specialists like suposed.
The fact that you select 1 or 2 cyclist pure for experience is understandable but 6?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 27, 2013, 08:09:31 pm
Every NT manager has his tactics. I know everybody want be in NT but I maybe they prefer improve their best cyclists in experience.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: ProSCycling on January 27, 2013, 08:33:26 pm
Since we are on the topic of NT I have a question, is it in the spirit of this game to pick cyclists that are not time trialists over specialist in order to gain experience?
In this case I found out because my cyclist didn't get picked but that's not realy my point, just a little. ;)
If you look at the selection of Hungary/Magyarország, there's only 4 time trial specialists and the rest are cobblers, climbers etc.
I understand why that is, experience, but I don't think it's what the NT's are ment for.
Yes, I asked the BC of Hungary and he told me my cyclist wasn't gonna score points but isn't that the case for about 150 cyclist in a NT race?
So I browsed through other small countries' selections but they do select specialists like suposed.
The fact that you select 1 or 2 cyclist pure for experience is understandable but 6?

I agree with you. I always select the best riders for the specific race, because I like to give all teams that are using time to train riders a chance to be selected for the NT races. But it is up to the individual nt coach, who they want to select. even though it is just for experience. I just do not share that view, for the following reason.
I know of actually quite many teams in one specific country, that decided not to get riders from their own country, because they never got any riders selected for the nt races, even though they actually should be good enough to be helpers.

6 is too many in my opinion.
Just my opinion :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 28, 2013, 04:22:39 am
In the normal race results screen, you see this icon (for punctures, falls etc).
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/pinchazo.jpg)

But in national team races, I've seen these two additional icons
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/ataque.jpg)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/caida.jpg)

Q: What are they (2nd one is a fall), and can they be incorporated in the normal races?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 29, 2013, 06:06:39 pm
@autralis
1: you are right Mavic is on their way!

2: a rider rode well on the last section.

3: a rider has crashed.

All of these following incidents can occur in all races..
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 29, 2013, 06:19:05 pm
I' working in icons system .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 29, 2013, 08:20:45 pm
Since we are on the topic of NT I have a question, is it in the spirit of this game to pick cyclists that are not time trialists over specialist in order to gain experience?
In this case I found out because my cyclist didn't get picked but that's not realy my point, just a little. ;)
If you look at the selection of Hungary/Magyarország, there's only 4 time trial specialists and the rest are cobblers, climbers etc.
I understand why that is, experience, but I don't think it's what the NT's are ment for.
Yes, I asked the BC of Hungary and he told me my cyclist wasn't gonna score points but isn't that the case for about 150 cyclist in a NT race?
So I browsed through other small countries' selections but they do select specialists like suposed.
The fact that you select 1 or 2 cyclist pure for experience is understandable but 6?

I agree with you. I always select the best riders for the specific race, because I like to give all teams that are using time to train riders a chance to be selected for the NT races. But it is up to the individual nt coach, who they want to select. even though it is just for experience. I just do not share that view, for the following reason.
I know of actually quite many teams in one specific country, that decided not to get riders from their own country, because they never got any riders selected for the nt races, even though they actually should be good enough to be helpers.

6 is too many in my opinion.
Just my opinion :)
This is a perfect question regarding relativism  ;D
Some nations might only have 25 riders in the U21 pool. Why pick riders who are worthwhile. etc..
In my opinion nepotism would be the worst part picking riders for the national races. This could be ruled with an objective reason why riders are picked or not.
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/U2310L5.png)
Not all of these riders are the best U23 sprinters for sundays race..
Saarsgaard is the best cobblestone rider etc..
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 30, 2013, 11:44:41 am
just wondering: I see a lot of spanish teams started cff in summer 2010. But season 1 started in april 2011. Was there a trial competition before season 1? What happened in that period?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 30, 2013, 03:25:02 pm
I make a game only for me during the time Cff was closed, Cff was single-game.
I added actual calendar , I have 40 teams in only 1 division , all where bots . Server sign up for races, server make training to all players and only my team was human.
I made the new efforts systems and others updates.

Talking with friends via msn , I decided open the game only in one division ( I change single player system to multiplayer), a private club and the game without translate because I only added new features in my language ( spanish).
I let 75 teams play and when we have inactive teams I invite other teams.
I didn't want have same stress than before, Cff requires a lot of time, and it is a game very difficult to mantain, but finally as I see users like this new game I open new divisions.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on January 30, 2013, 03:45:52 pm
Why did you delete the star-rating for the different stage types? I cannot see them for a while.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 30, 2013, 03:48:34 pm
Why did you delete the star-rating for the different stage types? I cannot see them for a while.

Yes, I think it is not useful, I prefer category of the races.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: MoleM on January 30, 2013, 05:21:03 pm
how do we lower (or keep low) your stresslevel?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 30, 2013, 05:28:00 pm
how do we lower (or keep low) your stresslevel?

good question!

having 'Supporter' is probably a main answer  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 30, 2013, 06:18:20 pm
how do we lower (or keep low) your stresslevel?

good question!

having 'Supporter' is probably a main answer  :)

You always help me to mantain it high :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 09, 2013, 10:29:05 pm
???? cff-twitter account hacked?

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Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 09, 2013, 10:37:48 pm
These twitter is not from cyclingforfun, our twitter  is  _cyclingforfun
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 10, 2013, 04:25:33 am
unfollow  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on February 10, 2013, 10:10:32 am
What type of races increase the experience for the riders?
Do NT, U23 and U21 contribute also to the experience?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 10, 2013, 10:21:06 am
Yes, Nt races increases experience.

0.6 NT
0.3 U23
0.2 U21
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 10, 2013, 10:33:48 am
Yes, Nt races increases experience.
0.6 NT
0.3 U23
0.2 U21

Clarification.

This increase, is it in comparison to a normal race?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 10, 2013, 10:36:49 am
No, it is experience points per race.

It is a little bonus but I prefer this because a big bonus can cause us problems with Nt managers inactive and managers that can select "friendly" cyclists to give experience.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 11, 2013, 08:21:23 pm
For tomorrow in the Tour de Suisse my rider Taaramae is 5th favorite. When i go to challenges i can challenge the numbers 1,2 and 3 on the favorites. I dont understand how the challenges are picked, i thought i was the ones closest to you in GV, just above and just below you. But that does not seem to be the case.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 11, 2013, 08:39:42 pm
Not just below you.

You have a wrong concept about challenges.

Your GV is as example 7500, system add 100 and select the 3 cyclists that are from 7600 to low value ( if 3 have more than 7500 all are better), but maybe no one has 7600 and all have less than 7500 and in that case three are worse.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 11, 2013, 09:23:47 pm
Ah k, thanks :D That explains a lot ;p
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamGiacomo on February 13, 2013, 08:34:09 pm
How does a team gain stars in Climbing, Sprint, Cobblestone, TT, Hills?

I only seem to gain stars when I purchase a great rider with high numbers in a certain discipline. Training my team into high numbers do not seem to gain me any stars.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on February 13, 2013, 08:56:41 pm
How does a team gain stars in Climbing, Sprint, Cobblestone, TT, Hills?

I only seem to gain stars when I purchase a great rider with high numbers in a certain discipline. Training my team into high numbers do not seem to gain me any stars.

Training takes time. The stars of your team are represented by the best rider you have in that discipline. 4 stars means a bronze icon for a rider, 7 stars a silver icon (and 9 for a gold icon?).
So you will get more stars if your best cycler gets better. It is not only the main skill that is important. It works with a Global Value (GV), they are multiple for every discipline. For sprint: there is sprint and sprint-hills. For sprint your rider needs: sprint, flat, technique, aggressiveness, teamwork and stamina in that order of importance. For sprint-hills a rider needs: sprint, hills, flat, downhill, aggressiveness, stamina, technique and teamwork in that order (approximately).

It is normal that you gain stars when you buy a rider that is better then those that you have. You can not train all types of riders. And only the best riders will ever get gold (silver is pretty good to). So getting more stars with training goes slow.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on February 13, 2013, 09:19:30 pm
I believe that it is the best rider you have in each category ie check out your riders and you will find at least one with that star-rating....

Not a clue how the stars are calculated, but I would expect someone will be along soon
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on February 14, 2013, 12:26:38 am
I believe that it is the best rider you have in each category ie check out your riders and you will find at least one with that star-rating....

Not a clue how the stars are calculated, but I would expect someone will be along soon

Like I already tried to explain, there are multiple GV's for each discipline. If your rider exceeds a certain value for that GV, he get's a number of stars for that. You only see the best result of your rider (with supporter you can see them for each rider). Then your team gets the best star rating any of your riders has.

For example the GV values for climbing-flat could be: 60, 64, 68, 71, 74, 77, 80, ... If your rider exceeds those values you get 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ... stars for climbing.
These are 13 different GV:
Climbing: climbing, climbing-hills and climbing-flat
Sprint: sprint and sprint-hills
Cobblestone: Cobblestone and cobblestone-hills
Hills: hills and hills-flat
Time Trial: time trial, hills time trial and climbing time trial
Tour: that is the sum of all the above.

For all GV you need a number of skills that are good, not just the main skill. You always need 4 to 8 skills for a GV. For example sprint is something like this: 44% sprint, 21% flat, 10% technique, 10% aggressiveness, 10% teamwork and 5% stamina. There is a GV for every race (always different), but many are alike. So using the % above, you can calculate how good your riders will be at most sprint races.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 14, 2013, 03:31:41 pm
I believe that it is the best rider you have in each category ie check out your riders and you will find at least one with that star-rating....

Not a clue how the stars are calculated, but I would expect someone will be along soon

Like I already tried to explain, there are multiple GV's for each discipline. If your rider exceeds a certain value for that GV, he get's a number of stars for that. You only see the best result of your rider (with supporter you can see them for each rider). Then your team gets the best star rating any of your riders has.

For example the GV values for climbing-flat could be: 60, 64, 68, 71, 74, 77, 80, ... If your rider exceeds those values you get 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ... stars for climbing.
These are 13 different GV:
Climbing: climbing, climbing-hills and climbing-flat
Sprint: sprint and sprint-hills
Cobblestone: Cobblestone and cobblestone-hills
Hills: hills and hills-flat
Time Trial: time trial, hills time trial and climbing time trial
Tour: that is the sum of all the above.

For all GV you need a number of skills that are good, not just the main skill. You always need 4 to 8 skills for a GV. For example sprint is something like this: 44% sprint, 21% flat, 10% technique, 10% aggressiveness, 10% teamwork and 5% stamina. There is a GV for every race (always different), but many are alike. So using the % above, you can calculate how good your riders will be at most sprint races.

Supporters only can see stars in their own cyclists, not in all ;)

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on February 14, 2013, 03:49:44 pm
Yes, but if you don't have supporter, you can only see it for your team. Not your cyclists individually. That is what I ment.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 14, 2013, 04:03:20 pm
It are visual effects, only 2% more or less can change GV and stars in terrains that have more equal stages.
As example in TT usually ( more than 10km) we don't have aggresiveness effect but stars have an aggr value because when we add plain terrain TT stars we add an average of all TT ( long, shorts and medium).

To supporters I always add things that don't give advantage paying, it is my idea since we started ( I hate games where you paid and you receive money, better players, energy or others), but we can mantain this little game only because they paid to mantain it and people than see publicity, and I have to give things as friendly or live races, statics or visual effects , or with no supporters I can't mantain Cff :(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamGiacomo on February 15, 2013, 06:01:53 pm
I believe that it is the best rider you have in each category ie check out your riders and you will find at least one with that star-rating....

Not a clue how the stars are calculated, but I would expect someone will be along soon

Like I already tried to explain, there are multiple GV's for each discipline. If your rider exceeds a certain value for that GV, he get's a number of stars for that. You only see the best result of your rider (with supporter you can see them for each rider). Then your team gets the best star rating any of your riders has.

For example the GV values for climbing-flat could be: 60, 64, 68, 71, 74, 77, 80, ... If your rider exceeds those values you get 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ... stars for climbing.
These are 13 different GV:
Climbing: climbing, climbing-hills and climbing-flat
Sprint: sprint and sprint-hills
Cobblestone: Cobblestone and cobblestone-hills
Hills: hills and hills-flat
Time Trial: time trial, hills time trial and climbing time trial
Tour: that is the sum of all the above.

For all GV you need a number of skills that are good, not just the main skill. You always need 4 to 8 skills for a GV. For example sprint is something like this: 44% sprint, 21% flat, 10% technique, 10% aggressiveness, 10% teamwork and 5% stamina. There is a GV for every race (always different), but many are alike. So using the % above, you can calculate how good your riders will be at most sprint races.

Thanks Johnny!

Very helpful... ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 19, 2013, 05:22:02 pm
my doctor and masseur have in total Form 146
I thought it was 146/20=7.x

But at the moment my riders who raced more than 35 times have 95 Form.
So, a staff form of 146 gives +8 Form
(From 35 to 44 races will be 87 => 95-87=8)

Question:
can I be sure to race with my riders for 54 races a season and still train at 100%?


'From 45 to 54 races form will be 82' (+8=90=no slower speed training)
   
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 19, 2013, 06:49:46 pm
The Spanish form has a different calculation, but it's incorrect too.
I have a total of 76 form, but only +3 form for my riders.

There's actually no plain calculation I can do to make this work with your form figures (unless the doctor/masseur benefits aren't equal, or maybe the benefit is calculated separately [for each staff member]).

Edit : The separate calculations theory is increasingly likely.  Several further (separate) doctor & masseur form statistics would confirm this.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 19, 2013, 11:23:26 pm
I believe (unless any data contradicts this) we can confirm that the doctor's & masseur's form benefit is calculated separately at

1-10 = 0 bonus
11-30 = 1 bonus
31 - 50 = 2 bonus
51 -70 =3 bonus
71 - 90 = 4 bonus
+91 = 5 bonus

This would mean that a doctor with 11 form & masseur with 31 form [42 total] will gain each rider a 3 form bonus; but a doctor & masseur both with 29 form [58 total] will only gain each rider +2 form.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on February 20, 2013, 01:02:40 pm
Since it's custom to round up at .5 your list should be:

1-9
10-29
30-49
50-69
70-89
+90

What you mean is that if your docor has 5,3 [5] and your masseur has 5,3[5] you get 10 points while 5,1[5] and 5,5[6] makes 11 points if you calculate staff seperatly.
Combined staff both are 10,6 and there for should be 11.
Wich is interesting while picking staff between seasons.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on February 20, 2013, 01:12:24 pm
Interesting stuff, and maybe something for the FAQ's?

Can any enlighten me with the difference between Recovery and Cumulative Fatigue?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on February 20, 2013, 01:20:52 pm
Interesting stuff, and maybe something for the FAQ's?

Can any enlighten me with the difference between Recovery and Cumulative Fatigue?

Recovery is how a cyclist recovers after resting and cumulative fatigue is how tired a cyclist gets from racing thanks to the quality of your staff ofcourse.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on February 20, 2013, 02:12:36 pm
Is training included in this? ie: Recovery is the Health improvement from doing nothing, and Cumulative Fatigue is how little they drop from doing something...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 20, 2013, 02:26:55 pm
My Cumulative Fatigue is 197 (98+97) and my riders dont loose health after a race, only after a training. Important if you want to train as many as possible.

My Recovery is 52 (33+19) and after resting my riders gain 13 health.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on February 20, 2013, 02:33:59 pm
In the spanish FAQ forum you have a lot of information about staff.

I know that's in Spanish, but numbers are numbers, so I think it won't be quite difficult to understand it  :P

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,980.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 20, 2013, 03:38:53 pm
Maybe anyone can translate the FAQ text that Pantani did .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 20, 2013, 05:23:52 pm
I was thinking about it for the Dutch and English forums(doing it a bit like the new player post i made), but i needed to find some time :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 20, 2013, 07:40:38 pm
Maybe anyone can translate the FAQ text that Pantani did .

I do have a translation on my computer, it just needs tidying up and correcting.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on February 20, 2013, 10:00:21 pm
Same here with races, I'll check Recovery next time I rest one...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on February 20, 2013, 11:47:35 pm
I'm going to translate everything again ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Israelus on February 21, 2013, 12:14:18 am
I'm going to translate everything again ;)

Thank you Thorin!!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 21, 2013, 08:24:39 am
I have put my equipment up for sale. But there used to be a cross next to.it to get it off the list. It seems to be gone and i cant remove my material.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 21, 2013, 10:09:03 am
I don't understand well in english what is the problem.
Send me a mail with details and this afternoon I answer you if I understand it. ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 21, 2013, 10:28:09 am
I can sell my equipment, but i can not remove it from the equipment transferlist anymore.

There used to be a red cross you could click on to remove the equipment from the transferlist, i only see a green icon. The same icon you can click on to buy equipment from other players.


This is the google translate translation :P:
Puedo vender mi equipo, pero no puedo sacarlo de la de Transferencias equipo más.

Solía ​​haber una cruz roja, puede hacer clic en para eliminar el equipo de la de Transferencias, sólo veo un icono verde. El mismo icono puede hacer clic en comprar el equipo de otros jugadores.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 21, 2013, 11:21:40 am
Yes, the cancel/delete option is gone. My equipment is on the second-hand equipment market for sale. Im not able to cancel it anymore.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 21, 2013, 11:33:53 am
Don't try Google Translate, you probably just declared war on the Faroe Islands.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 21, 2013, 11:48:30 am
It works very well when trying to understand all this Spanish on their forum :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on February 21, 2013, 12:01:48 pm
Don't try Google Translate, you probably just declared war on the Faroe Islands.

More likely Gibraltar  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Trebacio on February 22, 2013, 06:49:31 pm
I can sell my equipment, but i can not remove it from the equipment transferlist anymore.

There used to be a red cross you could click on to remove the equipment from the transferlist, i only see a green icon. The same icon you can click on to buy equipment from other players.


This is the google translate translation :P:
Puedo vender mi equipo, pero no puedo sacarlo de la de Transferencias equipo más.

Solía ​​haber una cruz roja, puede hacer clic en para eliminar el equipo de la de Transferencias, sólo veo un icono verde. El mismo icono puede hacer clic en comprar el equipo de otros jugadores.

No war on Faroe, but not very accurate. It  says it is your team (not your equipment) what you intend to sell.

There is a similar topic in Spanish forum/bugs so I guess osca will read it soon.

Let's take a look to how good and how cheap your equipment is... :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 22, 2013, 07:58:37 pm
Well, i may be tempted to sell my team to a foreign investor. Like Manchester United :P Give me 200mil and you can have my team :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on March 01, 2013, 06:34:47 pm
Small question, how many draftees are generated for each draft round?
I think the answer to that question was mentioned before but I can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on March 01, 2013, 06:40:41 pm
10 000 draft riders. Each day 15 races with 100 riders. So each day 1500 draft riders come in action.
If you go to draft, the answer is there in the second sentence of the text.  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on March 01, 2013, 08:03:37 pm
10 000 draft riders. Each day 15 races with 100 riders. So each day 1500 draft riders come in action.
If you go to draft, the answer is there in the second sentence of the text.  ;)

Ha tx, allready thought i did read it somewhere.
I just thought it was here on the forum and not in the obvious place like you pointed out.


Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 07, 2013, 10:13:29 am
Suppose you do something really stupid, like bid $300k for a 27 year old starter cyclist (I've seen players trying to sell these), could you make an all-in bid, then sign up for a race, and then because you no-longer have enough money, you won't get the cyclist?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on March 07, 2013, 10:23:46 am
Yes, technically possible.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 07, 2013, 10:53:39 am
Dangerous though, you need to make sure you dont get extra money(like from sunday on monday you get 50k from the sponsor).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 07, 2013, 12:03:34 pm
Suppose you do something really stupid, like bid $300k for a 27 year old starter cyclist (I've seen players trying to sell these), could you make an all-in bid, then sign up for a race, and then because you no-longer have enough money, you won't get the cyclist?

what Sjiz said.

Or you have shops and they just gave you the extra/missing money. (this happened to WinterIsComing)
Or you just sold (same night) a rider for a higher amount.
You just sold your material/equipment.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on March 07, 2013, 01:46:56 pm
Suppose you do something really stupid, like bid $300k for a 27 year old starter cyclist (I've seen players trying to sell these), could you make an all-in bid, then sign up for a race, and then because you no-longer have enough money, you won't get the cyclist?

what Sjiz said.

Or you have shops and they just gave you the extra/missing money. (this happened to WinterIsComing)
Or you just sold (same night) a rider for a higher amount.
You just sold your material/equipment.
Or you won a race in the CFF-cup which gives you some prizemoney.
All these ways you will have enough money again, and spend all of it on the bad cyclist.

So yes, it's possible, but be really careful and make sure you don't get any extra money in any way before the transfers are handled.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 07, 2013, 02:03:02 pm
Suppose you do something really stupid, like bid $300k for a 27 year old starter cyclist (I've seen players trying to sell these), could you make an all-in bid, then sign up for a race, and then because you no-longer have enough money, you won't get the cyclist?
I once in a while get a little itch in my finger and make a bid. But I usually have my team full so I can pull a rider or and get the team scout going. Then my squad is full.

Good work lately with translation and other suggestions  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 07, 2013, 02:19:51 pm
Suppose you do something really stupid, like bid $300k for a 27 year old starter cyclist (I've seen players trying to sell these), could you make an all-in bid, then sign up for a race, and then because you no-longer have enough money, you won't get the cyclist?

what Sjiz said.

Or you have shops and they just gave you the extra/missing money. (this happened to WinterIsComing)
Or you just sold (same night) a rider for a higher amount.
You just sold your material/equipment.
Or you won a race in the CFF-cup which gives you some prizemoney.
All these ways you will have enough money again, and spend all of it on the bad cyclist.

So yes, it's possible, but be really careful and make sure you don't get any extra money in any way before the transfers are handled.

Actually, that was what happened to me when I generously overpaid at the start of season 9. I forgot the €25.000 prize money I got from surviving the 1st CFF round. It was a costly mistake, €6.8 million down the drain. Thanks for reminding me  :P

It's like my personal CFF-trauma, lol  :) I've learnt my lesson though, it didn't happen to me again  ::)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 07, 2013, 02:33:55 pm
Quote
Thanks for reminding me 

de nada!   ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on March 08, 2013, 03:48:47 am
I believe that it is the best rider you have in each category ie check out your riders and you will find at least one with that star-rating....

Not a clue how the stars are calculated, but I would expect someone will be along soon

Like I already tried to explain, there are multiple GV's for each discipline. If your rider exceeds a certain value for that GV, he get's a number of stars for that. You only see the best result of your rider (with supporter you can see them for each rider). Then your team gets the best star rating any of your riders has.

For example the GV values for climbing-flat could be: 60, 64, 68, 71, 74, 77, 80, ... If your rider exceeds those values you get 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ... stars for climbing.
These are 13 different GV:
Climbing: climbing, climbing-hills and climbing-flat
Sprint: sprint and sprint-hills
Cobblestone: Cobblestone and cobblestone-hills
Hills: hills and hills-flat
Time Trial: time trial, hills time trial and climbing time trial
Tour: that is the sum of all the above.

For all GV you need a number of skills that are good, not just the main skill. You always need 4 to 8 skills for a GV. For example sprint is something like this: 44% sprint, 21% flat, 10% technique, 10% aggressiveness, 10% teamwork and 5% stamina. There is a GV for every race (always different), but many are alike. So using the % above, you can calculate how good your riders will be at most sprint races.

I am trying to get a sense of what values are required to earn a medal in a given discipline.  I have a copy of Spammie's Medal Evaluator.  To earn a climbing medal, is it enough to have a GV over the minimum in climbing, climbing-hills OR climbing-flat, or does the average need to be high enough over all three?  How accurate are the cut-off values provided in the Evaluator?

I ask because I have several riders who have values in one or more sub-disciplines that, according to the Medal Evaluator, should be high enough for a bronze medal, and yet do not have a medal.  For example, I have one rider who is 71.95 sprint and 66.66 hill-sprint, and yet does not have a sprint medal, even though the evaluator lists the cut-offs for these as being 69 and 64.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 08, 2013, 04:23:19 am
@Shalgo: The evaluators are made by players using their best educated guesses (from observations, general info from the help page etc).  As with any reasoned guess, it won't be 100% accurate.  But they serve as a useful guide.
If my memory is correct, the bronze/silver metals are for any one of the subcategories, and the gold is for the top 2 or 3 of all cyclists in that category.

@TeamSolex: Thx for your kind words.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 08, 2013, 06:57:02 am
@Shalgo
I thought this is Spammie's old evaluator. This one worked years ago in the first period of CFF. Ask Spammie if this is true.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on March 08, 2013, 03:45:14 pm
Thanks for the clarifications.  I realize that any evaluator will be at best an educated estimate, but it does seem that the version of the evaluator available in the "Tools" thread consistently underestimates the GV necessary to get a medal.  Coincidentally, however, the rider I mentioned in my last post received his sprint bronze icon today!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Legend on March 13, 2013, 04:19:47 pm
I know there used to be discusion on this forum how to calcuulate a talent of rider, but somehow it.seems I just can not find it. I also tride a tool but unfortunately I don't speak spanish. Can smeone plz. explain how do I calculate talent
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 13, 2013, 04:55:52 pm
I know there used to be discusion on this forum how to calcuulate a talent of rider, but somehow it.seems I just can not find it. I also tride a tool but unfortunately I don't speak spanish. Can smeone plz. explain how do I calculate talent

First look at have the training works in FAQ!
When you have learned how the training works. The hardest part is to register if a rider "pops". This is twice a day.

I had an example but there was a mistake in my screendump. Working on it...  :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 13, 2013, 05:01:41 pm
I know there used to be discusion on this forum how to calcuulate a talent of rider, but somehow it.seems I just can not find it. I also tride a tool but unfortunately I don't speak spanish. Can smeone plz. explain how do I calculate talent


Begin counting after a pop. Than count the number trainings till the next pop. Only skills between 60 and 80. Dont rest with the rider. (calculating the talent is best to start at the beginning of a season, health is 100%)

Talent 5 pops for the first time:
after 6 or 7 trainings
2x na 13 of 14 (na is dutch for after, of means or)
3x na 20
4x na 26 of 27
5x na 33

Talent 4:
1x na 6 of 7 trainingen
2x na 13 of 14
3x na 20 of 21
4x na 27 of 28
5x na 34

Talent 3:
1x na 7 of 8 trainingen
2x na 14 of 15
3x na 21 of 22
4x na 28 of 29
5x na 36

Talent 2:
1x na 7 of 8 trainingen
2x na 15 of 16
3x na 22 of 23
4x na 30 of 31
5x na 37
 
Talent 1:
1x na 7 of 8 trainingen
2x na 15 of 16
3x na 23 of 24
4x na 31 of 32
5x na 39
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 13, 2013, 06:06:56 pm
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/traelign_zpsc06d1a9c.jpg)

I have used the same scenario as Telemon. A U23 rider train a skill in the range 60 to 80.
 A rider will after a training pass is ascribed a value to his excixting atribute.

x*y+z

X = interval. ex. 60 - 80
Y = Talent. ex talent 1
Z= youth bonus. ex yes.

0,1*1,04+0,02 = 0,124 (this is ascribed to a rider each time he trains.)
If this is true you have recorded a rider "pop". 9 training times, 8 training times, 8 training times and 8 training times.
Talent 1, 2 and 3 is a pain to decide. At least 4 recordings  ::)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 13, 2013, 06:11:22 pm
You forget to tell the beginvalue is uncertain. It can be 60.000 or 60.149 (if 3 digits is allowed)

For example: A talent 4 and 5 can pop after 6 trainings!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 13, 2013, 08:18:36 pm
Couldn't begin value be anything between (example) 60.000 & 60.999?

Edit : Thx Sjiz.  I'm going to blame 5:00am for not thinking.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 13, 2013, 08:28:57 pm
Yes, so best to start counting after first pop. Youll notice the difference between low and high talent pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Legend on March 13, 2013, 11:52:20 pm
Thanks. I will try to determine some of my riders talent in the next season,
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 14, 2013, 08:01:35 am
On the signup-screen, the weather icon tells us that it's sunny (33 degrees) at the Tartu GP.
When I want to setup my tactics however, it shows us a rainy weather icon (33 degrees as well)?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 14, 2013, 08:09:15 am
I fix it.
We only show one icon. When we have more than 29º, we see sun icon but if we have rain , we must see rain icon .
Really is a hot race with rain.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 14, 2013, 08:20:41 am
I fix it.
We only show one icon. When we have more than 29º, we see sun icon but if we have rain , we must see rain icon .
Really is a hot race with rain.

Okay, I see it is fixed now. But if a race is over 29º, is the hot weather icon in effect as well, even if it doesn't show up because it's been shoved aside by the rainy weather icon?

In other words, do we have 2 weather bonuses active for next race?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 14, 2013, 12:52:27 pm
Yes, always you have 30º or more you have hot bonus, and if it rains , 2 bonus, and if we have wind 3 bonus :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 14, 2013, 01:20:40 pm
Yes, always you have 30º or more you have hot bonus, and if it rains , 2 bonus, and if we have wind 3 bonus :D

Okay, thx for your quick answer!

But when it's windy and rainy, I always see 2 icons. Why can't you show 2 icons when it's hot and rainy? It would be more clear for everyone, I think?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Timidus on March 14, 2013, 01:25:26 pm
Yes, always you have 30º or more you have hot bonus, and if it rains , 2 bonus, and if we have wind 3 bonus :D

The same for frost/snow/cold weather icons I guess? At which degree?

Is the weather effect bigger if it's for example 38 degree compared to 31 degree?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 14, 2013, 03:35:15 pm
Same effect 31º than 38º.

Only wind bonus change according wind power.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 16, 2013, 09:18:20 am
Does a cyclist gain experience for participating in CFF-Cup races?

Thx Telamon.  Would help if I would read.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 16, 2013, 09:21:55 am
Does a cyclist gain experience for participating in CFF-Cup races?

You can sign up 5 cyclists and use the standard tactical options, with roles and effort points. The objective is to win the stage. The winner of the stage will go up to the next round.

3. SPECIAL FEATURES

In order to give more emotion and to balance a little the different team levels, the following aspects of the game will have no influence in the CFF Cup:

- Health and Form of the riders.
- Team Staff.
- Team Equipment.
- Training Camps.
- Climate Bonus.
In the same way, this races won´t have any influence in the riders health, form and experience.

edit: you can find this information on the cff-cup page.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on March 16, 2013, 04:12:01 pm
Shop\Store: does anyone know how these work, and how much they pay out in Div3?

I have tried searching etc, but I haven't managed to find out much - except that (obviously) you get more in Div1; that the first one should be in my team's country; and they cost 236k€ a season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 16, 2013, 04:41:02 pm
Shop\Store: does anyone know how these work, and how much they pay out in Div3?

I have tried searching etc, but I haven't managed to find out much - except that (obviously) you get more in Div1; that the first one should be in my team's country; and they cost 236k€ a season.
Just do it :)
Your cobblestone riders will do their part in the start of the seaon.
If can stay inside the top 10 it will be good. Beaware of the individual ranking. Seem to be a great factor in the stores.
Buy some old riders for small amounts and get a some race experience. Don't be to critical unless you see a rider with a huge potential.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on March 16, 2013, 05:17:31 pm
I think the calendar of the U21 NT is a bit strange this season. It starts with 2 hill-races in a row, and most importantly, there is no pure climbing-race. I would be very disappointed if I had been training climbing-talents last season who would be 20 now.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on March 16, 2013, 05:19:13 pm
That isn't the common sense answer I was expecting  ;D ;D

Can a shop be closed? As I doubt I'll get much if I get promoted.....

(I have some young hill-riders  8) )
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 16, 2013, 05:54:40 pm
Sure it can be closed. At any given time. But you will turn a profit i recon in the third division. The lower division you are the better it is to open a store. You will get much better results than in the first division(its a bit counter intuitive as top teams like Saxo will probably make more from stores then your local cycling team :P).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 16, 2013, 06:03:52 pm
@Rabo
There has been a little discussion about the race selection in the past.
A grimpeur stage are rare. Sometimes there hasn't been a real cobble-hill race.

The search criteria for a mountain race is, ex:  +35 in mountain an picked in a database  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on March 16, 2013, 06:05:47 pm
I'll give it a go, if it can be closed - as I can afford 236k this season and let you know how I get on  ???

I think the Div1 problem is the same as I had last season in Div2, where the shop would have got me zilch...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 16, 2013, 07:48:45 pm
And dont forget it will cost you 50k to open and then 2k per race. So if you xlose up shop early you wont pay 2k/day. But i dont think youll have mucht trouble getting profits.

Just remember that these things all add to your profits:
- the position in the league
- Best result in a small tour GC
- Best result in a grand tour GC
- Best result in a cat 1 classic
- days result (if you do well in a stage: more profit)

(Could be more, but these i know:))

So dont close it too early. As in the first few races you dont have great results in races that havent been yet :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on March 16, 2013, 08:34:25 pm
I would keep it for the season. It is if I get promotion and have another relegation season that I would think about closing it....

After this season of just picking riders to get them experience, without affecting their training, it would be fun to try and win again  ;D

Your list makes sense, and I would guess the order (of cash) is something like:
1, GT Overall
2, GT stage
3, Classics
4, League Position
5, Small Tour Overall
6, Small Tour Stage
7, Category B
8, Cat C
9, Cat D.

Or at least the top four in a different order, similarly the bottom 5. With a bonus for any home-grown riders?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 18, 2013, 08:50:16 am
Store system I can't explain now without see the system but it is complex.

All these factors are important but all these have 2 important things.

-Country of the cyclist = country of the store HIGH BONUS
-Country of the team = country of the store HIGH BONUS
-Country of the cyclist= team= store = VERY HIGH BONUS.

For this if you have a good cyclist from France , you are french and you have good results put a store in France.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 18, 2013, 09:38:19 am
Tuning is the race bonus mechanic do equal other staff members ( stimulation in medical or masseur).
I don't know if stimulation is the correct word but I hope all you understand me.

I was hoping you could provide an explanation of this.
Are you saying that the mechanics tuning skill isn't like having a bonus to your bike equipment, but is independent of this?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on March 18, 2013, 10:00:00 am
Tuning is the race bonus mechanic do equal other staff members ( stimulation in medical or masseur).
I don't know if stimulation is the correct word but I hope all you understand me.

I was hoping you could provide an explanation of this.
Are you saying that the mechanics tuning skill isn't like having a bonus to your bike equipment, but is independent of this?

The higher the tuning level the higher the influence of the equipment. For sure, always a positive bonus.
I think is something like that.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 18, 2013, 04:41:10 pm
In spanish " Un mejor mecanico en puesta a punto hace que tu material esté siempre mejor preparado y tenga un mejor rendimiento".
In english " Better tuning  due your mechanic do it has better perfomance because bike is always better cared".
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 18, 2013, 09:45:12 pm
I know a pulled rider with salary <860 can have skills with something behind the comma (for example rider has climbing 65 but this can be 65,99)

A draft rider with 860 salary, does he have all skills exactly on x,00? (stamina 61,00 Sprint 45,00 etc)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 18, 2013, 10:06:46 pm
No he could have 69.99
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 18, 2013, 10:24:57 pm
No he could have 69.99

True or false?
 860 salary = 459,99 skill point!

True or false?
 860 salary = 460 skill point!

True or false?
860 salary = 460,99 skill point!


Can technique and/or aggressiveness and/or Teamwork <= 79,99
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 18, 2013, 10:33:17 pm
TW and tech <=74.99
Agg <=79.99
Others <=69.99

Salary <860

Sum <=459.99 :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 22, 2013, 04:33:51 am
Quote
Since today during 6 times every day staff will be added and deleted . Every staff member without team will be 24 hours in the market and if he can't find a team he will dissapears. Until today only at 1.00 we renew staff market and it was a disadvantage to a lot of people.

So a staff member also disappears from the hire list when somebody hires them?
Does each division have its own staff list?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 22, 2013, 07:26:47 am
So a staff member also disappears from the hire list when somebody hires them?
Yes, of course.

Does each division have its own staff list?

No, it is the same list.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on March 22, 2013, 07:53:47 pm
On the training camp page, am I correct that the race shown at the bottom is the first race for which your rider will be eligible if you send him to a training camp now?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 22, 2013, 07:59:56 pm
Yes, you see the first race you can do when the training camp finished.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on March 23, 2013, 09:46:15 am
I'm not seeing the the Points, and cash, in the Stage Ranking page for P-N - I'm sure they used to be there...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: prötzi on March 23, 2013, 11:28:42 am
I fix it.
We only show one icon. When we have more than 29º, we see sun icon but if we have rain , we must see rain icon .
Really is a hot race with rain.

In todays race is a similar problem: it's windy, cold and rainy. In the sign up page are two icons:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)

On the stage's tactic page are also two icons, but now rain instead of cold:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 23, 2013, 12:29:45 pm
I fix it.
We only show one icon. When we have more than 29º, we see sun icon but if we have rain , we must see rain icon .
Really is a hot race with rain.

In todays race is a similar problem: it's windy, cold and rainy. In the sign up page are two icons:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)

On the stage's tactic page are also two icons, but now rain instead of cold:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/viento2.jpg)(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/lluvia.jpg)

Like I already mentioned before as well, I really think it would be an improvement to see all active weather icons in one screen.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 23, 2013, 09:34:44 pm
With 'promote a U23 cyclist', I've only had 4 x nineteen year old cyclists out of 38.  Is this normal, or just unlucky?

Numbers
4 x 19 year olds
14 x 20 year olds
11 x 21 year olds
9 x 22 year olds
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on March 23, 2013, 09:52:21 pm
Just unlucky I think. But it could be that the chance for a 19 year old is smaller.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 24, 2013, 10:10:30 am
In addition to the above question, I'm wondering whether it's intentional for the new staff market to be introducing new available staff on Sunday?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on March 24, 2013, 02:22:39 pm
I want to bid on some riders tonight: do I lose any cash between now and and when the bids are processed?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 24, 2013, 02:30:04 pm
only if you sign riders in for races. Or fire staff etc.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on March 24, 2013, 02:39:30 pm
And if you use international scout...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 24, 2013, 02:44:18 pm
And if you use international scout...

Yes, this can also bring you your 20th rider!!! Be aware!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on March 24, 2013, 04:06:48 pm
I have got the squad to 19, by keeping rubbish youths, so I only get one rider  ::)

Thanks, I'll enter the morning's races and reset the bids.....
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Robbie on March 24, 2013, 06:58:41 pm
With 'promote a U23 cyclist', I've only had 4 x nineteen year old cyclists out of 38.  Is this normal, or just unlucky?

Numbers
4 x 19 year olds
14 x 20 year olds
11 x 21 year olds
9 x 22 year olds
My sample is much smaller of course, but it looks like you have been unlucky  :(
3 x 19yo (includes my best pull)
3 x 20yo
3 x 21 yo (includes my worst pull)
1 x 22 yo

or - I've had a nice run of beginner's luck.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on March 25, 2013, 12:42:31 pm
On the finances page under income for the english language it says: _patrospo at one place.
Looks like a mistake. What should it say?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 25, 2013, 12:44:54 pm
On the finances page under income for the english language it says: _patrospo at one place.
Looks like a mistake. What should it say?

I think it's your income by sponsors, (including the start of season bonus)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Robbie on March 26, 2013, 01:39:12 am
On the finances page under income for the english language it says: _patrospo at one place.
Looks like a mistake. What should it say?

I think it's your income by sponsors, (including the start of season bonus)
I got $50,000 on that "_patrospo" line, so it definitely looks like the Monday income.

"Each team receives 50.000 euros every Monday."

No idea what _patrospo means....Google Translate isn't giving any clues, either.  :)  Coding language?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on March 27, 2013, 09:02:03 am
Yes! It is coding language. I suppose that Oska forgot this word. It means "sponsor" = weakly payment + sponsors achieved + money per point (points achived during the last season which have been paid during the update)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on March 27, 2013, 12:18:55 pm
How did the trainingcamp bonus from staff work again?

Does it count when you send the rider on camp? When he returns from camp? Of during the time he has the bonus?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on March 27, 2013, 12:21:47 pm
How did the trainingcamp bonus from staff work again?

Does it count when you send the rider on camp? When he returns from camp? Of during the time he has the bonus?

 ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on March 27, 2013, 12:32:40 pm
How did the trainingcamp bonus from staff work again?

Does it count when you send the rider on camp? When he returns from camp? Of during the time he has the bonus?

 ;)
Thanks.
So in theory that would mean that changing staff during a TC-bonus of a rider can actually change that bonus even though it has already started a couple of races earlier?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on March 27, 2013, 12:33:43 pm
How did the trainingcamp bonus from staff work again?

Does it count when you send the rider on camp? When he returns from camp? Of during the time he has the bonus?

 ;)
Thanks.
So in theory that would mean that changing staff during a TC-bonus of a rider can actually change that bonus even though it has already started a couple of races earlier?

I would say yes.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 30, 2013, 03:53:51 pm
I wonder, why isnt there a place on the profiles for the stars of tour riders? It seems strange since we do have an icon for that.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 30, 2013, 04:09:17 pm
It is difficult set stars for tour riders, we have a Dt but these rank is the most unrealistic.
To avoid confusion I prefer don't use it. Tours are different too ( a great cyclist in Eneco could be in last positions in Tour de France). Germany is very different than Dauphine, or Tirreno.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on April 02, 2013, 08:55:35 pm
Is there a difference between the experience in different stages (A, B, C and D stages, stages in small and big tours and U21,U23) ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 02, 2013, 09:16:06 pm
Stages and races of the calender all give the same amount of experience. You do get bonus experience after competing in a tour (grand or small). Also U21 gives more experience than normal stages, u23 more than u21 and NT more than u23.

I am not entirely sure about the amounts but i believe regular stages are 0,3 exp. And like 0,3 bonus exp after a small tour and 0,6 after a big one. I know NT gives 0,6 per stage, and i believe u21 gives 0,4 and u23 0,5.
But not entirely sure of the amounts as i said.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on April 02, 2013, 09:23:56 pm
Stages and races of the calender all give the same amount of experience. You do get bonus experience after competing in a tour (grand or small). Also U21 gives more experience than normal stages, u23 more than u21 and NT more than u23.

I am not entirely sure about the amounts but i believe regular stages are 0,3 exp. And like 0,3 bonus exp after a small tour and 0,6 after a big one. I know NT gives 0,6 per stage, and i believe u21 gives 0,4 and u23 0,5.
But not entirely sure of the amounts as i said.

Ok. I think those amounts are a little to much (I've got a rider with 3 stages raced and one U21 stage) with 0 experience, but I get the idea. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 02, 2013, 10:47:32 pm
0.6 NT
0.3 U23
0.2 U21
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 03, 2013, 06:27:00 am
I am not entirely sure about the amounts but i believe regular stages are 0,3 exp. And like 0,3 bonus exp after a small tour and 0,6 after a big one.
It's lower than this.  My 19 year old has raced 9 stages (including 1 ST) and has 1 experience.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 03, 2013, 06:46:28 am
Small Tour =0.4
Big Tour = 1.0
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 03, 2013, 08:44:45 am
So the tour bonus is instead of the single race bonus?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 03, 2013, 08:53:05 am
Its a bonus you get for completing the tour, along with the normal experience per stage. So 10x normal stage bonus + 1,0.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on April 03, 2013, 09:25:04 am
Its a bonus you get for completing the tour, along with the normal experience per stage. So 10x normal stage bonus + 1,0.

And normal stage bonus is 0.1 experience?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 03, 2013, 09:34:05 am
Something like that i guess. Im not sure, we need Oska to clarify that :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on April 03, 2013, 06:50:42 pm
If I remember well, it's 0,1.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 03, 2013, 07:42:24 pm
0.15 ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 03, 2013, 08:36:17 pm
Stores: I seem to be getting some strange results from mine, admittedly it is in Div 3, lol.

When does the Stores page update? Is it once overnight?

Does the U-23 Rankings contribute to it?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 03, 2013, 09:13:27 pm
No, U23 rankings don't help in stores.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on April 04, 2013, 11:45:28 pm
Stores: I seem to be getting some strange results from mine, admittedly it is in Div 3, lol.

When does the Stores page update? Is it once overnight?

Does the U-23 Rankings contribute to it?

Stores update the same time as training. So after the results are in. Results make the biggest income for lower division teams. 'Famous' riders (riders with international caps and points) also make a little bit. For stores good results in stages give a single (big) bonus, results in tours give a (small) permanent bonus, but more lucrative in the long run.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 05, 2013, 02:22:13 pm
Thanks, which explains why I see strange results as training is overnight, and I only ever see the aftermath of the morning race.

I think that I am on track to break even over the season, but hopefully some bigger payouts from the GT's will help push it into proper profit.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 05, 2013, 03:43:18 pm
For stores good results in stages give a single (big) bonus, results in tours give a (small) permanent bonus, but more lucrative in the long run.

But, does this permanent tour result also apply for non-1st division?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on April 05, 2013, 05:46:54 pm
For stores good results in stages give a single (big) bonus, results in tours give a (small) permanent bonus, but more lucrative in the long run.

But, does this permanent tour result also apply for non-1st division?

Yes, I never had a store in div 1. To do so I need better results. Stores (native land) can be very lucrative in the low divisions. The more points you can get, the more money your store generates (approximately). For a foreign store to make profit you best need a good tour riders of that country at least. And a commercial manager with a high store value helps a lot.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 05, 2013, 07:36:43 pm
I have had a few biggish paydays (well a bit over 6k) from P-R, where I got second. I would guess an older\stronger squad than mine could do quite well from it.

I bought a couple of GT rideers to help the one I have, or maybe lead it - but I have a young squad, who dominate the U-23 Rankings (top 2; 5 in the top 9; 7 in top 12) but the Div is full of old crusties, lol.

I am only doing it in Div3 for a bit of a laugh, and if I get relegated after promotion, which I doubt I can avoid to see if there is money to be made from it after getting relegated back to Div3......
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 06, 2013, 01:01:53 am
I have had a few biggish paydays (well a bit over 6k) from P-R, where I got second. I would guess an older\stronger squad than mine could do quite well from it.

I bought a couple of GT rideers to help the one I have, or maybe lead it - but I have a young squad, who dominate the U-23 Rankings (top 2; 5 in the top 9; 7 in top 12) but the Div is full of old crusties, lol.

I am only doing it in Div3 for a bit of a laugh, and if I get relegated after promotion, which I doubt I can avoid to see if there is money to be made from it after getting relegated back to Div3......
Podium spots in a "The Big Monuments" is a good payoff in your shop. A promotion spot like you in at the moment is also very good. I just earned "very prifitable store". I might think it is because i earned over 10.000 this morning :o This is nor regular for me  ;D

Unfortunately there is a huge difference going from 3rd division to 2nd division!
More team is needed to avoid this jump. Or less divisions in the 3rd divisions ;) I have made some suggestions to Oska. But he is insanely busy at the moment to make any major changes.

Maybe somebody can come up with some ideas? (this will improve the gameplay for teams in the lowers division)
Though i do know the systems needs at least 1024 teams active or inactive and all the nine 3rd divisions!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 06, 2013, 03:48:02 am
Unfortunately there is a huge difference going from 3rd division to 2nd division!
More team is needed to avoid this jump. Or less divisions in the 3rd divisions ;) I have made some suggestions to Oska. But he is insanely busy at the moment to make any major changes.

Maybe somebody can come up with some ideas? (this will improve the gameplay for teams in the lowers division)
Though i do know the systems needs at least 1024 teams active or inactive and all the nine 3rd divisions!

It needs more than 550/600 players in the game, that's all.  If 3rd division leagues had 40 active teams (instead of 15-18), you'd find things to be different.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 06, 2013, 11:06:54 am

Podium spots in a "The Big Monuments" is a good payoff in your shop. A promotion spot like you in at the moment is also very good. I just earned "very prifitable store". I might think it is because i earned over 10.000 this morning :o This is nor regular for me  ;D

Unfortunately there is a huge difference going from 3rd division to 2nd division!
More team is needed to avoid this jump. Or less divisions in the 3rd divisions ;) I have made some suggestions to Oska. But he is insanely busy at the moment to make any major changes.

Maybe somebody can come up with some ideas? (this will improve the gameplay for teams in the lowers division)
Though i do know the systems needs at least 1024 teams active or inactive and all the nine 3rd divisions!

I got my "VPS" a few days back  8) I think it is 10k€ as well; And only lost 127€ with no points from the last race...

Is the difference between 1&2 as big as 2&3?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on April 06, 2013, 11:26:37 am

Is the difference between 1&2 as big as 2&3?

That difference is even bigger! :)

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 06, 2013, 04:29:45 pm
Not the answer I was hoping for  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 06, 2013, 08:17:11 pm

I got my "VPS" a few days back  8) I think it is 10k€ as well; And only lost 127€ with no points from the last race...

Is the difference between 1&2 as big as 2&3?

Its completely different going to 1 from 2. In 2 you have a team that usually does well everywhere and scores you many points. Where in the first division you have a lot more specialised teams. Most teams find that the teams that were top 10 worthy in almost every race in the 2nd is not even point worthy in any race in the first. For example a team like Vouwfiets. He was good in the second and had enough riders that scored points and won races to promote. He was even second in his division. But in the first division he is having a hard time because his team is very strong in the breadth and he lacks that one super star.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 06, 2013, 09:20:05 pm
Not the answer I was hoping for  ;D ;D

Were you hoping for an answer specifically on the stores/shops, and how much difference there is in their income going from divisions 1/2 compared to 2/3?

(Ps: I don't know about the shop income difference between top teams of each division, but I gather that cellar-dwellers of div1 won't be able to keep a profitable store [which you no doubt already know].  Somebody else will have to answer about the shop income difference between top teams of each division)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 06, 2013, 10:48:56 pm
My store (im 32nd in the first division and scores one podium place) is at -1100 :P. Stores are most profitable in the lower division. Simply because you get a lot better results there. (Its something i dont think is right, you dont see your local cycling team have more profitable stores than say Team Sky :P)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 06, 2013, 10:59:31 pm
My store (im 32nd in the first division and scores one podium place) is at -1100 :P. Stores are most profitable in the lower division. Simply because you get a lot better results there. (Its something i dont think is right, you dont see your local cycling team have more profitable stores than say Team Sky :P)
But Team Sky wouldn't be in 32nd position.  To keep with sports, 32nd in F1 would be a loss making position, yet 1st in a local car racing series would be highly profitable.

Of course the question of whether 5th in third division (or second division) would as profitable to the likes of 5th or 10th in first division is an interesting question.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 06, 2013, 11:39:13 pm
Still any pro tour team makes more money out of shirt sales etc than continental teams (bar a few exceptions of really good continental teams).

And i really think even the lowest F! teams have reasonably profitable store sales. Especially in their home country. Back when Spyker was in the F1 i saw a shitload of Dutch people run around with team gear :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 07, 2013, 08:38:55 pm
Not the answer I was hoping for  ;D ;D

Were you hoping for an answer specifically on the stores/shops, and how much difference there is in their income going from divisions 1/2 compared to 2/3?


No, I meant the quality of riders.....
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 07, 2013, 08:45:57 pm
My store (im 32nd in the first division and scores one podium place) is at -1100 :P. Stores are most profitable in the lower division. Simply because you get a lot better results there. (Its something i dont think is right, you dont see your local cycling team have more profitable stores than say Team Sky :P)

I was going to ask if that was -51k - but then realised you have probably had it a while.... (Mine is at-38k, so 12k in "profit") Surely you get more for your rider\team performances in the top division? Same as mine in Div3 - I have 500k from races already compared to 6k for all of last season in Div 2. It strikes me that promotions need to be timed right, while developing riders for the step up in Divisions...

Having a Store in Div2, would probably get you more cash, just like you would get more from races etc?

What makes you think Sky has a profitable anything, except Rupert Murdoch ploughing im millions, lol.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 07, 2013, 08:50:29 pm
Its -1100 per race for me :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 07, 2013, 09:08:46 pm
Impressive  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Timidus on April 08, 2013, 12:48:21 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/solnubes.jpg) Does this mean there is a small sun bonus or no bonus?

Can a weather icon change the GV for the stage? Increase the importance of certain skill(s) for the stage because of the weather etc. Or is it only a bonus for the riders with that weather icon.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 08, 2013, 06:24:04 pm
1st question: No bonus , only less 10º or more 30º has bonus by temperature.

2nd question: Gv always is calculated without bonuses, only skills( staff, health-form, training camp or weather).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 10, 2013, 02:40:32 pm
Its -1100 per race for me :P
Well with the rumours on how much money can be made in 3rd division, I've been testing, and I'm yet to get better than -1000, and this was with a 1-2-3 finish.  My team currently sits 6th in my division.

Maybe an outright terminator of 3rd division could make good money from stores, but this idea/fear that stores can make the average 3rd division team lots of money is unfounded from my loss-making experience.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 10, 2013, 03:23:08 pm
You havent had a grand tour yet. A good GC result in a race like that also counts heavy in stores profit. Also the more points you have as a team also increases your profitability and there are a lot of points to be earned in a grand tour. You are still fairly early in the season. Store profits will rise :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 10, 2013, 06:08:49 pm
Its -1100 per race for me :P
Well with the rumours on how much money can be made in 3rd division, I've been testing, and I'm yet to get better than -1000, and this was with a 1-2-3 finish.  My team currently sits 6th in my division.

Maybe an outright terminator of 3rd division could make good money from stores, but this idea/fear that stores can make the average 3rd division team lots of money is unfounded from my loss-making experience.

My Stores is currently -37k, which includes the 50 start-up; and the team are 4th in the Division (3d). I don't keep records but I think a Podium in P-R got me 5 or 6k.

I think the breakdown is as follows:
Team in 4th Spot: 1420
Rider in 7th (and 18th?) 333
Not sure where International Fame comes from, and the race prizes drop off quite a bit for Cat D's.

Also if the 1-2-3 was in the evening race you won't see the impact on the store until after Training is done (unless you are in Australia, where you may get to see both updates to the Store).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on April 14, 2013, 06:17:07 pm
If I want to send a rider on trainingcamp at the end of this season (and a part of the beginning of next season) so he will have the bonus in Paris-Nice can I not send him on an earlier trainingcamp this season? (For example for a bonus in the coming Tour?)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 14, 2013, 09:14:58 pm
You can :-) That i did try .

But you have to make sure that the second tk ends in the new season. So the bonus is only received in the new season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on April 14, 2013, 09:18:34 pm
Yes, there was a post about it a while back - and a reason why "Ask Anything" should be a Forum, rather than a thread, as it isn't easy to find answers to a question....
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 14, 2013, 10:10:00 pm
Do you think someone is going to read the whole doubts thread?
It's a thread without any structure and it is almost impossible to find there something you're asking. In fact when you have a doubt you make another question instead of reading the whole thread.

We've the FAQ that have the most important questions answered  ;).

If you think that any thread shouldn't be deleted we can talk about it, but in my opinion the doubts thread isn't very useful. However osca rules  ;)

I agree. Not all information should be saved. But I'll try to save some. Like this post of Pantani. I think, I will need it at the end of the season.

Quote
Imagine that your rider has been in a training camp and he has finished his bonus before the stage 104 (it is vital that he had already finished his bonus before this stage), you can send your rider again to a training camp (if you want to do it). He would start the training camp again but his bonus won't take effect until the following season.

(Etapa = Stage)

Etapa 104   Etapa 1   Bealach Challenge
Etapa 105   Etapa 2   Melbourne Classic
Etapa 106   Etapa 3   Het Volk
Etapa 107   Etapa 4   Kuurne B Kuurne
Etapa 108   Etapa 5   Nokere Koorse Nokere
Etapa 109   Etapa 6   Monte Paschi Eroica
Etapa 110   Etapa 7   GP Zottegem
Etapa 111   Etapa 8   Paris Niza
Etapa 112   Etapa 9   
Etapa 113   Etapa 10   
Etapa 114   Etapa 11   
Etapa 115   Etapa 12   
Etapa 116   Etapa 13   GP le Samyn
Etapa 117   Etapa 14   Tirreno Adriático
Etapa 118   Etapa 15

Be aware that despite the fact that you sent him the previous season, he benefits the bonus in the current season and you can't send him to a training camp again. (You would be able to send him after the stage 104 if you liked)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on April 14, 2013, 10:27:24 pm
Thanks a lot all!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 18, 2013, 10:46:18 am
I was reading the translated version of the doubts thread in the Spanish forum.
I have a question.

What is the general criteria for getting a silver, and gold talent icon on your cyclists?

(bronze is definitely cyclist skill points)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on April 18, 2013, 10:51:09 am
It's the same criteria than bronze. It only changes the global value that you have to reach in order to get the talent icon.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on April 18, 2013, 11:38:29 am
I want to leave the first division this season. How can I arrange to join division 2C next season? (I want to compete with al those other dutch teams.)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on April 18, 2013, 11:48:36 am
I want to leave the first division this season. How can I arrange to join division 2C next season? (I want to compete with al those other dutch teams.)

I think that the relegation process is random.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 18, 2013, 01:17:32 pm
It's the same criteria than bronze. It only changes the global value that you have to reach in order to get the talent icon.

Thought so.  It was just that the translation was odd.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 19, 2013, 05:03:29 pm
I want to leave the first division this season. How can I arrange to join division 2C next season? (I want to compete with al those other dutch teams.)

Getting in to 2C isn't the hardest part allthough you have to prove you'r ready for it, learning the secret handshake we have is the hardest part.  :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Team_contador on April 21, 2013, 10:46:48 am
Where can i see the calendar? And the races i have signed up for?

I find this game veery confusing as a newbie.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 21, 2013, 11:01:32 am
Where can i see the calendar? And the races i have signed up for?

I find this game veery confusing as a newbie.

First of all, welcome to this great game!  8)

Where you sign up for a race to the right of the stage-profile you van click on "see the full calendar" to see the calendar.
If you click on sign-up for upcomming races you can see who you signed up for wich nearby race.

It's all a bit tricky and maybe confusing at first but once you get the hang of it it's briljant.
You also might wanna look for a mentor, they can help you get going with tips.

p.s. ask as many questions as you want, there are many managers here that are very helpfull and don't forget that the game was confusing at first for most of us and still is at some points. :P


I just noticed you are Danish, check this out: http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,470.0.html :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 21, 2013, 02:53:48 pm
ok tak, hænger lidt i endnu. Elsker cykling men ved ikke helt om jeg kommer igang rigtigt, der er for mange ting jeg ikke forstår.
Hehe i can take this it is danish :)

i write a PM.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Team_contador on April 21, 2013, 07:47:55 pm
Haha i forgot to write in english....sorry;-)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on April 21, 2013, 10:49:18 pm
The prize money in the CFF-cup seems to be incorrect.

The information page says this:
Round 2: 25.000
Round 3: 50.000
Round 4: 75.000
Round 5: 100.000
Last 32: 150.000
Last 16: 200.000
Quarter-finals: 300.000
Semi-finals: 500.000
Final: 750.000
Winner: 1.500.000

However, I qualified for the last 16 and received 150.000, not 200.000.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 22, 2013, 09:27:15 am
There's a bug in the supporter section. When I watch past races I can see the tactics of my riders, but all roles are set as "free role" (which I for sure know they weren't) - I tried several races, they all had "free role" below every rider from my team.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on April 22, 2013, 11:38:08 am
The prize money in the CFF-cup seems to be incorrect.

The information page says this:
Round 2: 25.000
Round 3: 50.000
Round 4: 75.000
Round 5: 100.000
Last 32: 150.000
Last 16: 200.000
Quarter-finals: 300.000
Semi-finals: 500.000
Final: 750.000
Winner: 1.500.000

However, I qualified for the last 16 and received 150.000, not 200.000.

If I am not mistaken, you should recieve the CFF Cup's prize at the end of the season. So if you have recieved 150k, it could be from your last season. Could your check this out?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on April 22, 2013, 11:49:22 am
Really? I have no clue how I should check that.
All I know is that I receive money every time after I continue to the next round. And this time it was 150k.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on April 22, 2013, 12:07:33 pm
I know for 100% sure that the prize money for the CFF-cup is given on sunday night prior to the transfer window on Monday 1:00am. That's why I was able to purchase a cyclist for over 6.5 million while I didn't want him 2 seasons ago. I didn't count for the 25k prize money which I got for beating my opponent in the 1st round of the CFF-cup, so I got just enough for the sale to go through, while I was thinking I didn't have enough money after I signed up for some races.

Now, why is there a topic that reminds me of my costly mistake every 5 or 6 weeks. This seems like a conspiracy  ;) :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on April 22, 2013, 12:31:08 pm
Be careful, for the forum is dark and full of reminders. ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 22, 2013, 07:00:01 pm
All tactics are free role until last stage because we didn't store roles before ;)

Cff cup money works fine
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 22, 2013, 09:52:40 pm
All tactics are free role until last stage because we didn't store roles before ;)


Until "last stage"? Is that race 118 you mean?

When did you start storing roles?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on April 22, 2013, 10:49:58 pm
I think we have just started to store it. Stage 1 tour the Suisse is stored for sure, stage 5 Dauphine is not. I'm not sure about the stages between, because I didn't take part.

The reason why you see free role for the past stages is that we don't have any data in database so system displays the 'default' value which is free role.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 23, 2013, 07:59:58 am
Thanks levsim ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 23, 2013, 08:05:11 am
OK, thanks.

It had been a while since I last checked "past stages raced", so I just thought "oh yeah, that info about the roles has always been there!" and I guess not  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on April 23, 2013, 10:42:58 am
I also have a question: What if a cyclist gets sold while he is in TC. Will he cancel TC or finish it in his new team?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 23, 2013, 10:59:08 am
The training camp is cancelled, and the new team can choose to redo the training camp.
Not sure of when the training camp has already finished and the rider is in the 15 day bonus however.


Edit : from game help : 
Quote
If a cyclist is sold, he will leave the training camp and/or he will loose the bonus. However he will be able to go again to the training camp.

So based on that, you could get 13 days of TC bonus in, sell him on the 14th day, and the cyclist could redo the TC with the new team and have 28 or 29 days of total TC bonuses for the season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on April 23, 2013, 12:08:51 pm
... or even more if he is sold again. That's what I thought. :-\ Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 23, 2013, 01:18:18 pm
Yes, but i dont think that will happen much. Plus after a while it gets noticed and i believe thats cheating as well. But for top riders te price is very high. You always have a risk of someone else than intended buying your rider. To avoid that as much as possible you must sell him for a very high price and buy him back for a high price. You lose 2x10% on that (just for 10mil thats a 2mil cost to get him back).

Even though its possible i dont think it will be common.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on April 23, 2013, 06:43:03 pm
Yes, I don't want to do such a transaction... :D

I was only hoping if I can continue TC with a cyclist after buying him. It's a pity that I can't...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 25, 2013, 10:24:05 am
National team election question.  If you nominate for a position, can you withdraw or change the position you're nominating for.  Same question with voting.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 25, 2013, 05:42:34 pm
What does "individual " means in the stores balance sheet?

Individual rider placings in the division ranking? National team placings for individual riders? Or something else?

The reason I'm asking is that I for around a week have had a steady 3000 income in this category and now suddenly have a dead round zero...?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on April 25, 2013, 06:09:10 pm
That is what your store makes for the last stage result. So you probably didn't make the top 30 in the last stage and that doesn't happen a lot.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 27, 2013, 11:43:03 am
There seem to be some small bugs in the news section of 2C. I noticed FrançaiseDesJeux buying Abien Avon who seems to have a silver TT icon for only 450.000. Since that's a bit cheap I wanted to see whom I missed out on so I clicked on Avon's name and it links to Jeroen Stamsnijder [sNoW4PeTiNikeiS]. Abien Avon is a draftee from the last draft. There are more examples, seems to me the linking went bad somewhere.

Abien Avon: http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=190398 links to Jeroen Stamsnijder http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=1024 but only in the news section under transfers.

Another example, Alfonz Gasko http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=190415 links to Michael Huling http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=2495

Both examples have in common that they link to cyclists of sNoW4PeTiNikeiS.
Is it a real bug or some free advertising for sNoW4PeTiNikeiS?  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 27, 2013, 11:59:01 am
There seem to be some small bugs in the news section of 2C. I noticed FrançaiseDesJeux buying Abien Avon who seems to have a silver TT icon for only 450.000. Since that's a bit cheap I wanted to see whom I missed out on so I clicked on Avon's name and it links to Jeroen Stamsnijder [sNoW4PeTiNikeiS]. Abien Avon is a draftee from the last draft. There are more examples, seems to me the linking went bad somewhere.

Abien Avon: http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=190398 links to Jeroen Stamsnijder http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=1024 but only in the news section under transfers.

Another example, Alfonz Gasko http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=190415 links to Michael Huling http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=2495

Both examples have in common that they link to cyclists of sNoW4PeTiNikeiS.
Is it a real bug or some free advertising for sNoW4PeTiNikeiS?  ;D

Thanks, it is a bug when a cyclist is signed up from draft because their id is different in young cyclists and normal cyclists.
Now it must work perfect.
Snow didn't pay this month and I have fixed this bug :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 27, 2013, 07:25:03 pm
Thanks for the quick services.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 02, 2013, 11:09:56 pm
Can I get a confirmation that cyclists finishing in top 20 of a NT race may gain international fame (related to store income), and also gain a small increase in his wage.

And, does this also apply to U21 & U23 NT races?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Trebacio on May 03, 2013, 09:43:41 am
I cannot confirm your first question.

About the second one, I guess this doesn't apply to U-21 and U-23, since top 20s in these races don't increase your cyclist's wage.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on May 03, 2013, 11:33:30 pm
Yes (not sure about store income), yes, no
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on May 16, 2013, 08:24:30 pm
There is absolutely no way to undo a wrong order for a trainingcamp right? Even not when it has not yet started? :-\
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on May 16, 2013, 09:18:31 pm
According to my experience, no, you can't. I think we should move this post to suggestions thread. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on May 20, 2013, 11:50:14 am
If a rider has participated in 34 races he has 100 form (in my case, +8 form).
Now, when he has participated in 35 races he will have a form-drop.

My question: will this formdrop take place at the moment he -starts- in his 35th race, or only at the training after this race?
In other words: can a rider ride 34 or 35 races with full form?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 20, 2013, 03:18:24 pm
I'm not at home, but I think you can race 35 because form will drop in the process after the 35th race.

I will check this night, if it is not correct I will post again here ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on May 20, 2013, 03:39:30 pm
35
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on May 20, 2013, 03:55:35 pm
Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 24, 2013, 08:37:09 am
Looking at a 3rd division group, I noticed something which I simply can't work out the sense of.

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=3265
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=5926
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=5998

Why would teams not attempt to race when they're not going to be either demoted or promoted regardless?  I just can't understand the logic behind it.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on May 24, 2013, 08:43:12 am
Ask them  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on May 25, 2013, 12:44:48 pm
I stopped to avoid promotion this season; and I think a few who finished below me in the division stopped a bit before me...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on May 25, 2013, 12:46:29 pm
There were no transfers last night?

Only youths are showing....
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 25, 2013, 01:39:24 pm
I stopped to avoid promotion this season; and I think a few who finished below me in the division stopped a bit before me...
So did I (my team simply isn't good enough yet for 2nd division), but I'm sure you scored a healthy number of points and gained race income.  The highlighted teams scored zero points, and as you know, the only teams going down from 3rd division are complete inactives.  But maybe they have a game strategy I'm not clued on.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on May 25, 2013, 01:49:48 pm
There were no transfers last night?

Only youths are showing....

Yeap, first transferwindow is sunday night :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on May 25, 2013, 03:29:00 pm
Ah, thanks.

I finished 6th, and stopped racing when I was 4th. This season is about wins\podiums and cash then see how next season goes in Div2 as they will be that extra bit older and stronger...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 30, 2013, 09:00:20 am
Be aware that despite the fact that you sent him the previous season, he benefits the bonus in the current season and you can't send him to a training camp again. (You would be able to send him after the stage 104 if you liked)
Just to confirm, if 14 days of the TC bonus is in one season, because the 15th bonus day is in the new season the cyclist can't go on another TC before day 105?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on May 30, 2013, 12:01:32 pm
Not exactly, before stage 104

Etapa 1   Etapa 16   
Etapa 2   Etapa 17   
Etapa 3   Etapa 18   
Etapa 4   Etapa 19   Tour de Colonia
Etapa 5   Etapa 20   Milan San Remo
Etapa 6   Etapa 21   GP Herning
Etapa 7   Etapa 22   Brabantse Piil
Etapa 8   Etapa 23   Steven Rooks Classic
Etapa 9   Etapa 24   GP Miguel Indurain
Etapa 10   Etapa 25   Tour de Flandes
Etapa 11   Etapa 26   E3 Harebelke
Etapa 12   Etapa 27   GP Cerami
Etapa 13   Etapa 28   Ronde van Drenthe
Etapa 14   Etapa 29   Paris Roubaix
Etapa 15   Etapa 30   Philadelphia Classic
Etapa 16   Etapa 31   Amstel Gold Race
Etapa 17   Etapa 32   Flèche Vallonne
Etapa 18   Etapa 33   Liège Bastogne Liège
Etapa 19   Etapa 34   GP Wallonie
Etapa 20   Etapa 35   Giro della Toscana
Etapa 21   Etapa 36   Veenendal-Veenendal
Etapa 22   Etapa 37   GP Escaut
Etapa 23   Etapa 38   Fete du Chrono
Etapa 24   Etapa 39   GP Jeff Scherens
Etapa 25   Etapa 40   GP Ahrus
Etapa 26   Etapa 41   Tour du Var
Etapa 27   Etapa 42   Giro de Italia
Etapa 28   Etapa 43   
Etapa 29   Etapa 44   
Etapa 30   Etapa 45   
Etapa 31   Etapa 46   
Etapa 32   Etapa 47   
Etapa 33   Etapa 48   
Etapa 34   Etapa 49   
Etapa 35   Etapa 50   
Etapa 36   Etapa 51   
Etapa 37   Etapa 52   Berner Rundfart
Etapa 38   Etapa 53   Dauphine Liberé
Etapa 39   Etapa 54   
Etapa 40   Etapa 55   
Etapa 41   Etapa 56   
Etapa 42   Etapa 57   
Etapa 43   Etapa 58   Paris Bourges
Etapa 44   Etapa 59   Colliers Classic
Etapa 45   Etapa 60   Vuelta a Suiza
Etapa 46   Etapa 61   
Etapa 47   Etapa 62   
Etapa 48   Etapa 63   
Etapa 49   Etapa 64   
Etapa 50   Etapa 65   Lincoln GP
Etapa 51   Etapa 66   Leeds Classic
Etapa 52   Etapa 67   Clásica a los puertos
Etapa 53   Etapa 68   Tour de Francia
Etapa 54   Etapa 69   
Etapa 55   Etapa 70   
Etapa 56   Etapa 71   
Etapa 57   Etapa 72   
Etapa 58   Etapa 73   
Etapa 59   Etapa 74   
Etapa 60   Etapa 75   
Etapa 61   Etapa 76   
Etapa 62   Etapa 77   
Etapa 63   Etapa 78   GP Naciones
Etapa 64   Etapa 79   Memorial Otxoa
Etapa 65   Etapa 80   Clásica de San Sebastián
Etapa 66   Etapa 81   GP Gerrie Knetteman
Etapa 67   Etapa 82   Giro di Lazio
Etapa 68   Etapa 83   Vuelta a Portugal
Etapa 69   Etapa 84   
Etapa 70   Etapa 85   
Etapa 71   Etapa 86   
Etapa 72   Etapa 87   
Etapa 73   Etapa 88   Tour del Benelux
Etapa 74   Etapa 89   
Etapa 75   Etapa 90   
Etapa 76   Etapa 91   
Etapa 77   Etapa 92   
Etapa 78   Etapa 93   GP Plouay
Etapa 79   Etapa 94   Clásica de Almeria
Etapa 80   Etapa 95   Vuelta a Alemania
Etapa 81   Etapa 96   
Etapa 82   Etapa 97   
Etapa 83   Etapa 98   
Etapa 84   Etapa 99   
Etapa 85   Etapa 100   Vuelta a España
Etapa 86   Etapa 101   
Etapa 87   Etapa 102   
Etapa 88   Etapa 103   
Etapa 89   Etapa 104   
Etapa 90   Etapa 105   
Etapa 91   Etapa 106   
Etapa 92   Etapa 107   
Etapa 93   Etapa 108   
Etapa 94   Etapa 109   
Etapa 95   Etapa 110   GP Namur
Etapa 96   Etapa 111   Paris Bruxelles
Etapa 97   Etapa 112   HEW classics
Etapa 98   Etapa 113   Campeonato del mundo CRI
Etapa 99   Etapa 114   Campeonato del mundo en ruta
Etapa 100   Etapa 115   Züri-Metzgete
Etapa 101   Etapa 116   Tartu GP
Etapa 102   Etapa 117   Paris Tours
Etapa 103   Etapa 118   Giro di Lombardia
Etapa 104   Etapa 1   Bealach Challenge
Etapa 105   Etapa 2   Melbourne Classic
Etapa 106   Etapa 3   Het Volk
Etapa 107   Etapa 4   Kuurne B Kuurne
Etapa 108   Etapa 5   Nokere Koorse Nokere
Etapa 109   Etapa 6   Monte Paschi Eroica
Etapa 110   Etapa 7   GP Zottegem
Etapa 111   Etapa 8   Paris Niza
Etapa 112   Etapa 9   
Etapa 113   Etapa 10   
Etapa 114   Etapa 11   
Etapa 115   Etapa 12   
Etapa 116   Etapa 13   GP le Samyn
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Etapa 118   Etapa 15   
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on May 30, 2013, 03:43:00 pm
Thats not the question.

he wants to know if it is possible to a rider with TC more than 15 days a season.

For example: a rider used his TC bonus 5 races of last season and 10 of this season. Can he be send again (for example after race 11) on TC so he will have 15 races with TC bonus this season?


season 11 send on TC after race 97 - will have bonus after race 112 AND bonus in season 12 till race 6.
Can he be send on TC again after race 10?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 30, 2013, 03:54:08 pm
You cannot use 5 bonus days last season and 10 this season.
At end of past season if you are in bonus the TC bonus finished and you can during this season send to TC when you wanted.

If you are in TC and your bonus starts during this season you are in bonus 15 days IN THIS SEASON and in same season you cannot send another time.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on May 30, 2013, 04:21:30 pm
I will try to make myself clear now ;)


There are just three possibilities:

1º Training camp (stage 1 to stage 89) Extra skills (stage 16==>30 to stage 104==>118)

 The rider goes to a training camp during the season and he has extra points during the season

He can attend another training camp after stage 104 in the same season if he attended a training camp before stage 74


2º Training camp (stage 90 to stage 103) Extra skills (stage 105==>118 to stage 118==>118)

The rider goes to a traing camp during the season (at the end) and he has extra points during the season (less than 15 stages). Note that the rider doesn't have extra points in the next season so he "wastes" part of the training camp advantages.

He cannot atend another training camp during the season

3º Traing camp (stage 104 to stage 118) Extra skills (stage 1==>15  to stage 15==>29)

The rider goes to a traing camp at the end of the season and he has extra points during the next season (he has extra points during 15 stages).

He can attend another training camp after stage 104 in the same season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on May 30, 2013, 04:37:16 pm
Then this sentence has te be added in the explanation on the TC pages:
 
'Note that the rider doesn't have extra points in the next season so he "wastes" part of the training camp advantages.'
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 30, 2013, 09:47:39 pm
Thx Pantani, Telemon, Osca.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Daniel Faraday on June 01, 2013, 09:07:42 am
Ha anybody understood how the hell does the Icons (gold-siler-bronze) thing works?
 i mean there are guys with a 80-90-80 in stamina-climb-downhill who are mountain-bronze and others with a 80-75-80 that are mountain-silver?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Xurde on June 01, 2013, 10:27:32 am
Ha anybody understood how the hell does the Icons (gold-siler-bronze) thing works?
 i mean there are guys with a 80-90-80 in stamina-climb-downhill who are mountain-bronze and others with a 80-75-80 that are mountain-silver?

You need to take into account,technique and teamwork too if you are referring to pure climbers.
But in the case you refer,it needs to be a hybrid,concretely a climbing-hills specialist.
You can have a silver medal with 80-75-80 if he is a beast in hills stats,something like 97 hills 80 Aggressiveness (a little bit more is needed but something like that).
Also you can win a medal by another subespeciality,like flat-mountain,and this way is a lot easier,you need flat, some teamwork, and technique,but you can lower the level of downhill.
Hope these helps you.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Daniel Faraday on June 01, 2013, 06:39:18 pm
Ha anybody understood how the hell does the Icons (gold-siler-bronze) thing works?
 i mean there are guys with a 80-90-80 in stamina-climb-downhill who are mountain-bronze and others with a 80-75-80 that are mountain-silver?

You need to take into account,technique and teamwork too if you are referring to pure climbers.

But in the case you refer,it needs to be a hybrid,concretely a climbing-hills specialist.
You can have a silver medal with 80-75-80 if he is a beast in hills stats,something like 97 hills 80 Aggressiveness (a little bit more is needed but something like that).

Also you can win a medal by another subespeciality,like flat-mountain,and this way is a lot easier,you need flat, some teamwork, and technique,but you can lower the level of downhill.
Hope these helps you.


"You can have a silver medal with 80-75-80 if he is a beast in hills stats,something like 97 hills 80 Aggressiveness (a little bit more is needed but something like that)."

--> yes you are right: in fact he is Hills : 93   Aggressiveness : 56 Flat: 80

Ok thanks . i didn't take subspecialties into account . in fact this guy is a great flat-mountain and cobble-mountain
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Xurde on June 01, 2013, 08:37:55 pm
it's Hugo Olte,in that particular case the flat is out of the ecuation(i suppose)and the technique(69)counts.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurelio_Uccheddu on June 02, 2013, 02:08:40 pm
Hi people, only a precisation, I ask you for the topic For Sale (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1188.0.html), but is not the best for the riders in selling the description is made full in english language?

Thank you :-)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurelio_Uccheddu on June 10, 2013, 10:14:03 pm
Sorry for the stupid answer, but I dont found the section regarding the World Cup...

The classification, does it give money?

The normal Classification at the end of Season give money in reltionship at the points obtained,

And the World Cup (the 10 race Classics)

Thank YOU :-P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 10, 2013, 10:19:57 pm
No, it only gives you a trophy if you win in 1a .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurelio_Uccheddu on June 10, 2013, 10:24:40 pm
Okiz thank you oscacom :-)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on June 10, 2013, 10:41:40 pm
This is a new ranking and it doesn't give you extra money. But as you can imagine,  Prestige and new trophies are priceless  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on June 12, 2013, 08:40:57 am
How does the list at the bottom right of the transfer-page, of 5 riders that are for sale in your division, work?

I thought it were the riders with the most points, but my Laszlo Lovesz has got more points than 4 of the 5 riders in that list, yet is not in the list himself (at least not visible for me)?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 12, 2013, 09:26:21 am
How does the list at the bottom right of the transfer-page, of 5 riders that are for sale in your division, work?

I thought it were the riders with the most points, but my Laszlo Lovesz has got more points than 4 of the 5 riders in that list, yet is not in the list himself (at least not visible for me)?
I'm pretty sure you can't see your own cyclists on it.  Do the others match up with your theory?

Btw: I only have one cyclist on my list, which is the only cyclist for sale with points in 3i (besides mine, which doesn't show up).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on June 12, 2013, 09:45:16 am
That's probably it then, can't see your own cyclists. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on June 12, 2013, 10:38:25 am
That's probably it then, can't see your own cyclists. :)

That's true. This is the list as it shows up at my page.

Ivari Saarepuu    36 000 000
László Lövész   23 000 000
Edwin Mohr   17 500 000
Dennis Slippens   9 000 000
Armando Carreras   4 500 000
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on June 12, 2013, 10:52:11 am
Perfect. :) Scratch my question then.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 12, 2013, 11:58:00 am
If your cyclist has two weather icons for the one race, does he gain two bonuses?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on June 12, 2013, 12:18:03 pm
If your cyclist has two weather icons for the one race, does he gain two bonuses?

Yes  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 13, 2013, 06:18:13 am
Wow, I didn't actually expect that answer.  Thx Thorin

Btw: Can I get a new marketing manager? because for the 2nd time this season I've got a great sponsor offer; in the race I'd just completed  :'(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on June 13, 2013, 09:48:14 am
The marketing manager gets better sponsor deals (more money). The races depend on the luck  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 13, 2013, 11:35:39 am
The marketing manager gets better sponsor deals (more money). The races depend on the luck  ;)
I actually knew this.  I was having what you might call a type of light-headed traditional English whine at my luck.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on June 13, 2013, 11:52:29 am
The marketing manager gets better sponsor deals (more money). The races depend on the luck  ;)
I actually knew this.  I was having what you might call a type of light-headed traditional English whine at my luck.

Ok! Get it!  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 27, 2013, 08:45:45 am
Is there a way of removing unworthy hall of fame riders from my hall of fame? I can remember removing one before but i cant seem to find where i did that.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 27, 2013, 01:20:43 pm
There is a symbol x that quit your cyclist in hall of fame
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ender on June 27, 2013, 02:03:51 pm
A question and the answer about the value of technique in the Spanish forum.  ;)

In-game Help, does it make sense to think that when there are skills with the same number of stars, which appear first are most important?

Example:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/scherens.jpg)
Hills ++++; Stamina +; Technique +; Aggres +; Downhill +

Stamina>Tec>Agres>Downhill?¿?

No, in this case have similar values​​.

Unable to write half cross, is the same, but the technique has less value.

Usually the technique is the third most important skill in time trials (and the only time its value is more than 10%).

In cobblestone (hills and plain), around 10%. In mountains and hills is about half of the downhill.

In sprint stages is also approximately 10%. (8-10%).

Sorry for my bad English.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 27, 2013, 02:06:37 pm
Note: EPO asked this question based on what appears on the help page in game.
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/ayudaeng.php

En la ayuda del juego, cuando valora las habilidades para cada etapa; tiene sentido pensar que las habiliades con mismo número de *, las que salen primero son un poco más importantes??

Ejemplo:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/scherens.jpg)
Hills ++++; Stamina +; Technique +; Aggres +; Downhill +

Stamina>Tec>Agres>Downhill?¿?
Question: So, is technique the 3rd most important skill because it's third in the list?
Quick Answer: No.

Longer Answer:  General importance is based on the number of + each skill is given.  This makes hills the most important, because it has 4 +s.
Those with 1 + could either be a full 1+, or a 0.5+.  However, because there's no symbol for a 0.5+, the full + is displayed.  Think of it in this way.  A 1+ says the skill has some importance, but not a primary importance.

On technique, Oscacom has stated (in the Spanish forum) it has less importance than downhill in hill races, despite downhill being listed after it in the help page.
Technique has around 10% importance in plains & cobbles.  It has 8% to 10% importance in sprint.  It has half the importance of downhill in hills & mountains.
Technique only goes above 10% importance in time trials, where it's the third most important cyclist skill.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 27, 2013, 03:00:06 pm
Thanks for translate, I think it is important people can understand a bit more skills for this I asked for translation about technique skill.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on June 27, 2013, 03:58:08 pm
Small question about something we are talking about in the Dutch section.
There is this race formula wich calculates race points for all cyclists and the cyclist with the most points wins the stage. To make it like real Cycling points are projected in time [difference]. This is just a simple thought of how the simulator works, right? To me it would be logical that it also calculates per section for every cyclist to determine who is in wich group. The results we see in the sections, who is in what position, is it completely random within the groups? Let's say there's a group of 30 cyclist infront of the peloton, are they listed by the most racepoints or could it also be that the cyclist with the least race points of that 30 cyclists listed 1st in that section?



Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ender on June 27, 2013, 04:38:28 pm
Each section uses a formula similar to this:
global value + luck + energie + helper + effort + value of previous section

The value of each rider is calculated and they are distributed in groups.
The position in the group for each rider is random.
For the next section all riders start with the highest value in the group they were in the previous section.

Or that's what I understand.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on June 27, 2013, 05:18:43 pm
My question was not how it gets calculated, but if the results shown per section are random (in last race, not standings). Or is there a certain way the program would order the riders that are in the same group (in sections 1-4)? Usually I find my helpers (high effort) in front and my leader (low effort) in the back of one group.

Also maybe it is possible to put the riders of the same team together in the standings (per section), like with the NT? Or colour favorite riders, riders from mentor teams, ... That way it would be easier to find riders (other then your own) in (section)results. It takes a lot of time finding some in the big pelotons of 100-250-350 riders.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on June 27, 2013, 06:16:30 pm
I have made the same conclusion as you, JohnnyQKuch, based on several observations (which seems more than just a random coincidence), but for the national team races all riders from the same country isn't listed together. The riders seem to be listed in the order that they were selected, making the latest selected riders getting positions in the back of their respective groups. This is especially visible on the first section in races lower difficulty.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 27, 2013, 06:54:39 pm
In normal races I don't put order in results. System put the order as it wants.

I thought at init in put order as section5 in other sections but maybe these dates quit a bit of emotion ( or not).

I can study all your ideas about orders .

In past I studied add new icons to give more info in races ( about luck, role, health or form, effort), but I declined due to maybe users don't want show to their opponents these info.
Other mode to show races I could study too.
As always my mail is open to your proposals ( admin@cyclingforfun.org).



About engine all you know the result in every section is Global value ( sum of % of all your skills) + Bonus ( health,form, staff, bike, climate)+effort in the section ( ONLY 1 SKILL IS USED IN EVERY SECTION TO CALCULATE EFFORT, Green -> flat in sections 1,2,3 and 4, and sprint in section 5; Red -> cobblestones ; blue -> hills; orange -> mountain; yellow -> downhill. If you use pasive effort bonus is 0 in the section) + energy ( less efforts used in the race more energy you have)+ helper bonus ( if you have a helper in same group than your leader , in the next section you has helper bonus. In section 1 you always have helper bonus if you have a leader and a helper at the init of the race. This bonus is bigger when your Global Value of your helper is bigger)

A small resume.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Davici on June 27, 2013, 07:57:46 pm
In section 1 you always have helper bonus if you have a leader and a helper at the init of the race. This bonus is bigger when your Global Value of your helper is bigger)

Is there actually also always a negative bonus for the helper which has the highest GV at the start of the race during the first section?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 27, 2013, 08:01:30 pm
No, all helpers has a negative bonus ( due to help to their leaders).
Is the same value to all helpers and it is used in all 5 sections ( if help and if they don't help).
Free role don't have bonuses ( negative or positive).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on June 27, 2013, 09:01:44 pm
In normal races I don't put order in results. System put the order as it wants.

I thought at init in put order as section5 in other sections but maybe these dates quit a bit of emotion ( or not).

The thing is that random order is a shot in the dark when it comes to tactics. When my captain makes the first group with 1 effort and is in last position I take into account that I took a risk but since the order is random I'm not sure if he just made it or easily made it. Since there's also a luck factor you could get double blinded.
Personaly I like to analyse my tactics afterwards, being 1st in the second group to me means I just missed the group infront but that could also be the case if you are in last position. So to me it seems there's no need to "hide" since you don't know the others tactic. I think that especialy if you just started racing you might think the same and put more effort in a simulair situation next time because your cyclist was way down the group.
I can however understand that showing actual positions might give to much insight, I'm not sure though.

Thanks for clearing it up.  :)

@Johnny, you know you can easaly find names in the results by using control+f right? 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on June 28, 2013, 03:17:04 am
@Johnny, you know you can easaly find names in the results by using control+f right?

Didn't know, thanks.

But still, if the order is completely random. You can't see like Sonic said, my rider was close to the group before him or just made this group. If so, change nothing (maybe colours for favourites or mentor teams, ...)

Then it would be better to put the riders from the same team together. It gives a better picture, now it's a mess. You have to put in hours of work to find out which teams were in front in the beginning and where they were at the end.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 28, 2013, 07:23:25 am
Updated.

Better now??
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: EPOglucidos on June 28, 2013, 09:05:48 am
In normal races I don't put order in results. System put the order as it wants.

I thought at init in put order as section5 in other sections but maybe these dates quit a bit of emotion ( or not).

The thing is that random order is a shot in the dark when it comes to tactics. When my captain makes the first group with 1 effort and is in last position I take into account that I took a risk but since the order is random I'm not sure if he just made it or easily made it. Since there's also a luck factor you could get double blinded.
Personaly I like to analyse my tactics afterwards, being 1st in the second group to me means I just missed the group infront but that could also be the case if you are in last position. So to me it seems there's no need to "hide" since you don't know the others tactic. I think that especialy if you just started racing you might think the same and put more effort in a simulair situation next time because your cyclist was way down the group.
I can however understand that showing actual positions might give to much insight, I'm not sure though.

Thanks for clearing it up.  :)

@Johnny, you know you can easaly find names in the results by using control+f right?

 :o!! Thx Sonic

Thx Osca too, I think it is more clear now in race sections!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on June 28, 2013, 09:28:35 am
Updated.

Better now??
yes! Love it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on June 30, 2013, 11:09:50 am
When looking at the sign-up page at stage 80 (San Sebastian) it shows rain as weather. http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/preinscribir.php?eleccion=80

But when looking at the same stage at the trainingcamp page, it shows sunny as weather.
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/preconc.php?eleccion=65
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 30, 2013, 01:17:57 pm
When the temparature is 30 or above its always sunny. So in this case i believe sunny and rain weather bonusses are in place.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on June 30, 2013, 01:41:54 pm
When the temparature is 30 or above its always sunny. So in this case i believe sunny and rain weather bonusses are in place.

Yes, true, I mentioned this one some time ago as well, and Osca cleared things up.

In theory, there can be 3 icons in effect in 1 race (wind, rain and sunny/cold)
<10 degrees is cold weather icon, >30 degrees is sun icon.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on July 08, 2013, 07:28:22 pm
Guys,

How can you calculate the max amount of races a racer can ride before reducing trainingsspeed?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on July 08, 2013, 07:45:13 pm
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html

There you will find everything you need to know. The FAQ is recently updated by Australis.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on July 08, 2013, 07:49:37 pm
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html

There you will find everything you need to know. The FAQ is recently updated by Australis.

So if I calculate correctly, with 71 form and 79 form I can race 54 races (82 + 4 + 4)?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on July 10, 2013, 11:43:19 am
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html

There you will find everything you need to know. The FAQ is recently updated by Australis.

So if I calculate correctly, with 71 form and 79 form I can race 54 races (82 + 4 + 4)?

Nobody who can confirm this?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ender on July 10, 2013, 11:50:42 am
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html

There you will find everything you need to know. The FAQ is recently updated by Australis.

So if I calculate correctly, with 71 form and 79 form I can race 54 races (82 + 4 + 4)?

Nobody who can confirm this?

I confirm.  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on July 10, 2013, 12:48:05 pm
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html

There you will find everything you need to know. The FAQ is recently updated by Australis.

So if I calculate correctly, with 71 form and 79 form I can race 54 races (82 + 4 + 4)?

Nobody who can confirm this?

I confirm.  ;)

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on July 10, 2013, 05:04:29 pm
In fact 55, but only when your rider participates in race #118. Because there is no training after 118. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on July 31, 2013, 08:16:55 pm
In the mass-mail that has been send to the users it says the races will continue Friday. But in the ingame mail it says 'tomorrow' which is Thursday.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 31, 2013, 08:19:53 pm
No, first mail versión I try to send when my conection stopped was in queue. One time I open the program it starts sending old mail.
New mail said tomorrow thursday.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on July 31, 2013, 08:24:30 pm
No, first mail versión I try to send when my conection stopped was in queue. One time I open the program it starts sending old mail.
New mail said tomorrow thursday.

Which new mail? Got one (old) mail.

Its better to use a exact date when the game will restart. (thursday august 1)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 31, 2013, 08:48:24 pm
I'm sending , it is not at instant, it needs a few hours due if not smtp server is stopped being reported as spam.
At moment 10% users have this new mail.

If not, they have cff mail, tomorrow we have race as you can see in next race date.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurelio_Uccheddu on August 03, 2013, 07:44:44 pm
Osca :) Hi!!
A question, is possible to change the Category Gruop at the Final Season as Hattrick?

I would like to migrate by the group H :P ::) ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 03, 2013, 07:58:15 pm
No, it is imposible, sorry.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurelio_Uccheddu on August 03, 2013, 08:08:54 pm
Ok :-) no problem :-)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on August 04, 2013, 01:58:38 pm
Helperbonus for a leader is based on GV of the helper. But does the health and form of the helper also have effect on the bonus for the leader?
So if a helper has 90 form and health will the bonus for the leader be lower than if that same helper has 100 form and health?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 04, 2013, 05:41:20 pm
Health and form are part of GV in stage .

Before stage we calculate Gv only for get favorites, but at init of stage we calculate Gv ( skills, climate, form-health, staff).
A % of this GV is the bonus of helper, for this health and form are important to get a higher GV.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 07, 2013, 10:24:17 am
I'm wondering about these icons and their meaning (see 1st div last race).
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/why.png)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/power.png)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/gregario.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 07, 2013, 04:11:53 pm
It is not added to the game .
At moment I use icons only for see if it works and I have to tune these processes.
I'm working since our game fall in new icons, I think others could be possible but I have to try a lot.

My idea is give more info: put ciclists with low form or health, with plenty form-health and climate, show when a cyclist lose the main group and his Global Value is good to be on top, show at end when due to tactics a cyclist win a lot of position ( or lose), show when helpers are doing his work, or show when a helper go up and left their leader back, when a cyclist have an incident ( fall , puncture or bike problem).

Actually problems have low incidence ( fall and puncture), I study do more effect on negative incidents or massive falls :P

I add it officially when system are well tested and I update engine to get these information.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 07, 2013, 04:13:48 pm
Interesting. I do think you should think about which information is public and what is just for your own team. And perhaps make some information only for supporters to make being a supporter even more interesting.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on August 08, 2013, 04:05:10 pm
Interesting. I do think you should think about which information is public and what is just for your own team. And perhaps make some information only for supporters to make being a supporter even more interesting.

I think giving supporters a tactical advantage is a bad idea.
I always stop playing a game when I see paying players have more chance of winning then non-paying.
And as I am supporter for this game, I am a potential future paying player for other games too.
Their loss...  :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 08, 2013, 06:30:21 pm
Supporters can't have advantage, in incidents I'm working in the same for everybody.
Supporters can have more stats, design features. It is difficult mantain a game without advantages but it is my idea since the init, some people understand the supporter as I and they pay to help me with the game.
Other way is publicity as all you know that although nobody likes without it Cff would be imposible with actual level of supporters.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurelio_Uccheddu on August 09, 2013, 01:43:37 pm
Interesting. I do think you should think about which information is public and what is just for your own team. And perhaps make some information only for supporters to make being a supporter even more interesting.

I think giving supporters a tactical advantage is a bad idea.
I always stop playing a game when I see paying players have more chance of winning then non-paying.
And as I am supporter for this game, I am a potential future paying player for other games too.
Their loss...  :P

Jejeje You can see my situation, I'm in 3th division I'm supporter I'm in average situation...
I think that see the statics ever, is very good for the supporter player (see your situacion faster), but different in a non-pay condicion you must write the stats and the other informacion, for example in a Excel file!!
I've upgrade my situation only making question an older player and friend!!
If you see my friend Cuccuru race in 3D division and thank his mind and my council he will be in 2nd next season!!
He is NON pay player!!
I'm supporter and I'll remain in 3th division again!!
The winning races depend only to the dificulty of division level!!
Well the victory in the races depend very good, that the experience in general in the online manager game!!
I and my friend, for example, put ours experience made in Hattrick...

The supporter is important to the game development, not for win the races, for this the structure of this game help the player (that he pay) in the gestion of the team..not in other situation!
More you can compite in a ONLY SUPPORTER SEASON...for an another Trophy more :-)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 09, 2013, 02:25:39 pm
Seems that my comment has been taken a bit out of context. I never suggested any advantages for supporters (i am against that as well).

The main point of my post was that its important to decide which information should be for everyone to see and which for just your own team. And if there were some information that could be made for supporters that that should be considered. Never said which information as i dont know what exactly osca plans to do.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 09, 2013, 05:14:47 pm
Show more icons is give more info, maybe info that actually is hidden, but these incidents can give more attactive to understand race.
Actually icons are boring and I wan't renew it soon with more race incidents.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on August 14, 2013, 02:26:35 pm
Since the calendar has been moved forward a day. Because of the online problems in July.

?When will the manual season update be launched. Thursday->Friday or Friday->Saturday??
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 14, 2013, 03:37:18 pm
Friday from 00:00 to 02:00. One day before other seasons where usually last stage is friday and the process is in saturday .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on August 16, 2013, 07:04:39 pm
Maybe my question should be posted in suggestions but I do it here. :P

Since I relegated from 1A I can't be a mentor anymore wich is a pitty beacause I enjoyed helping a new team.
Now I still will help him without being an official mentor but it's kind of weird that I officialy can't.
Wouldn't it be better that once you have been in 1A you can be a mentor or after playing a certain amount of seasons?
There's a lot of ways to play this game without being in 1A and besides isn't being a mentor something you want to do to help others?

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 17, 2013, 04:02:40 am
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/bassano.jpg)
Q: With section 5 of this race having a large downhill, if I was doing tactics & team selection for this race, would section 5 be considered a standard climbers section (because DH is typically a small part of climbing talents); or a 50/50 hybrid climbing/downhill stats section?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 17, 2013, 04:11:07 am
While we're on this, a similar question.

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/lisboa.jpg)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/philadelphia.jpg)

Would the top race have greater hills stat importance because there are simply more hills, or would they be similar because they're both 250km hilly races?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 17, 2013, 08:29:47 am
1st race , end is a tipical mountain stage. Effort bonus that we must  sum to Global Value is according to the level you have in mountain.
Where you must consider more downhill is in Global Value, Downhill will have more % influence than in other stages because  race finish after a long downhill.


About hill races , the bigger difference is that in 2nd race we must consider more % flat ( plain) influence that in 1st where there are more hills and less plain terrain.

Always you must know where I put %, 5-6 years ago I use subjetive values, maybe if today I put another time I can put 1-2 more or less in some skills because I don't have a picture reader that see profile and put perfect %.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on August 17, 2013, 12:20:49 pm
Hehe, the GV is very difficult to determine.
Everybody has more or less tried to find a conclusion on stage GV. But most of the experienced users has abandonded this and tries to experience which rider or tactic is most suitable for a stage. It is not enough to have the best riders in 1st division. IMO the experience is the key.

Some stage GV are hopeless. My best guess is that OSKA jammed his toe into a chair leg and following made 20 GVs for stages with mixed emotions. Mostly cursing and swearing  ;D

EX:
More up and down. Like The Lisbon WC race = more aggressiveness and downhill. This race have even more aggressiveness because it end in a small climb cat.4

So how much is the combined aggressiveness in number? more aggressiveness + even more aggressiveness =  :o
The combined GV summation can range from 84 to +100. Which make it even more tricky.. The ratio can differ!

So why make all these GV presentation?
I/others (danish community) makes seasonly updates so less experienced players can see how good the riders are. This is just a tool like the much discussed rider icons bronze, silver etc!

U23 Season 13


(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/U23S13Sprint_zpsf2b9c3ae.png)



What is all the fuss for U21- U23 and NT races. Some think it is a bit silly to make all these weekly updates for each stage race. But it is also a tool to search in +2000 riders for a race.
Sæson 13

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/geniltt.jpg)

This season will open with a "new classic" race. Normally it is a buffet for the danish timetriallists. Where the U23 team 2 times got  >700 points. This time only Nyström will get a shot to get points!

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/U23S13L1_zps1bbce344.png)

Last season result:
1  Raimonds Melgailis  (LAT) 22 0: 00" 300  FacHaBortoLo
2  Filip Holm  (DEN) 22 0: 19" 250  GMV_Cycling
3  Hans-Kurt Elklint (DEN)  22 0: 29" 225  GMV_Cycling

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/U2311L1_zpse5b639bf.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on August 18, 2013, 05:12:46 pm
Could it be possible to have some sort of sign at riders who have been taken of the free riders market by teams and because of that cannot be placed on the transfermarket by them?
I sometimes ask lower division teams if they would be willing to sell one of their stars, but often (not always) it's one of their free riders so they can't sell him. If I could see that for myself (and how long there is left before he becomes available to sell) it would save at lot of time.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 18, 2013, 06:05:33 pm
Could it be possible to have some sort of sign at riders who have been taken of the free riders market by teams and because of that cannot be placed on the transfermarket by them?
I sometimes ask lower division teams if they would be willing to sell one of their stars, but often (not always) it's one of their free riders so they can't sell him. If I could see that for myself (and how long there is left before he becomes available to sell) it would save at lot of time.

;) Updated
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Robbie on August 22, 2013, 09:11:36 am
Hi!

I did not read anywhere whether Green and Polka Dot jerseys were still in beta, or if you had decided to start giving points and prizes for them?

Does that mean it is still beta for this season?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: antoo on August 22, 2013, 01:44:13 pm
Where is thé french forum ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 22, 2013, 01:48:36 pm
There is no French forum right now. Not a lot of French people play this game i believe.

I assume you are French? And i see this is your first post on the forum. Welcome!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: antoo on August 22, 2013, 01:57:01 pm
I m not french^^ i m belgian but i speak french. The half of the belgian speak french
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on August 22, 2013, 02:05:11 pm
I wonder people from how many nations play CFF? Anyway, English forum is so far the only sollution to those players who don't have their national forum here...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: antoo on August 22, 2013, 02:14:19 pm
Why some riders can t be sell ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 22, 2013, 02:15:58 pm
Those are your free riders. You can sell them after 2 seasons. In the past teams have waited until world class riders came on the free market and sold them immediately for a lot of money. This gave those teams a massive boost and unfair advantage to truly new players. So now they have to stay in your team for 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on August 22, 2013, 02:17:14 pm
I m not french^^ i m belgian but i speak french. The half of the belgian speak french

Si vous pouvez trouver assez de gens francophone, peut-être c'est possible d'ouvrir un forum. Mais vous comprenez que nous ne ouvirirons pas de forum pour deux ou trois joueurs francophone.

Dans le forum Néerlandophone il y a un section NT belge. Probablement il y des gens lá qui peuvent parler francais.

Il semble que vous pouvez t'exprimer trés bien en anglais aussi. Vous pouvez poser des questions ici aussi.


If you can find enough french-speaking people, maybe it's possible that the creator opens a french speaking forum. You understand there won't be a new forum for 2 or 3 french speaking players.

In the dutch speaking forum, there is a belgian NT section. Maybe the players over there speak a little french.

It looks like your english isn't too bad either, so feel free to ask questions here also.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on August 22, 2013, 02:18:39 pm
There are people from at least 30 different countries and Spain, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal and USA are the top5 right now.

The number of players is increasing very slowly but I can assure you that now there are people playing from the 5 continents.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on August 22, 2013, 02:20:31 pm
Those are your free riders. You can sell them after 2 seasons. In the past teams have waited until world class riders came on the free market and sold them immediately for a lot of money. This gave those teams a massive boost and unfair advantage to truly new players. So now they have to stay in your team for 2 seasons.

I believe it's 3 seasons.
It used to be 3, we were speaking of changing it to 2, but I don't think that came trough in the end.
Not sure anymore though...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 22, 2013, 02:26:53 pm
Ah, i think you must be correct. You have more knwoledge ;p
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: antoo on August 22, 2013, 02:33:58 pm
I m not supporter since today so i can t read the stat about french users and belgian users someone can send me
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on August 22, 2013, 02:36:24 pm
I m not supporter since today so i can t read the stat about french users and belgian users
Are there such stats?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: antoo on August 22, 2013, 02:44:01 pm
Yes in the suporter menu
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PANTANI28 on August 22, 2013, 02:53:16 pm
Actually the only stats are from the 19 countries which are in the game. They are not trustworthy because there are teams which play in different countries and players whose countries are not in the game so they must choose other countries. But you can make yourself an idea. ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 22, 2013, 05:19:35 pm
For me no problem in open a frech forum. When 2-3 users want, they only have to say me the titles of the forums in french I have to add.

I wish more french people enter into Cff. Until 2-3 months ago game didn't have french as language.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: antoo on August 22, 2013, 05:59:49 pm
I propose you create the forum and i ll find some french-speaker ;-) if the forum doesn t work you can delete it...
The title : forum cff francophone
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 23, 2013, 07:13:02 am
The forum is open :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on August 23, 2013, 11:29:29 am
If the stat of a rider is say: 99.999. He trains and gains 0.025 points. Will the stat be 100.0 or 100.024?

And what were the amounts riders lose of their stats each training at 31, 32, 33 etc.?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 23, 2013, 01:00:46 pm
Its 100,00. It can not be higher that that.

And:
*Old Age - 31+*

From age 31, cyclists begin to lose trained skills.  This loss of skills affects all skills equally, and occurs after every training session, even if you select rest as your training schedule.

The decline rate for each skill after every training session is as follows
31 = -0.005
32 = -0.01
33 = -0.015
34 = -0.02
35 = -0.03
36 = -0.05
37 = -0.07
38 = -0.09
39+ = -0.12

Of course, training will slow down these effects, at least for a season or two.

(its in the FAQ sub forum :P)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on August 23, 2013, 01:17:18 pm
Could it be possible to have some sort of sign at riders who have been taken of the free riders market by teams and because of that cannot be placed on the transfermarket by them?
I sometimes ask lower division teams if they would be willing to sell one of their stars, but often (not always) it's one of their free riders so they can't sell him. If I could see that for myself (and how long there is left before he becomes available to sell) it would save at lot of time.

;) Updated

Is it possible to let the date appear when free riders can be sold? For example, when I'm on the 'not for sale-icon' the date appears. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on August 23, 2013, 01:45:35 pm
]

Is it possible to let the date appear when free riders can be sold? For example, when I'm on the 'not for sale-icon' the date appears. :)
I think  :P
It is from the begining of each season. That is way some riders can be tied to a team almost 3 season.
Please correct me if I'm wrong..

I dont believe this period is to long. Remember why this initiative was made  ???
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on August 23, 2013, 01:50:35 pm
]

Is it possible to let the date appear when free riders can be sold? For example, when I'm on the 'not for sale-icon' the date appears. :)
I think  :P
It is from the begining of each season. That is way some riders can be tied to a team almost 3 season.
Please correct me if I'm wrong..

I dont believe this period is to long. Remember why this initiative was made  ???

Ah okay, but then it could be nice to show the season when the rider can be sold. ;)
For example: 'able to sell at stage 1 season 15' ..
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on August 23, 2013, 02:02:18 pm
well yes. But you can see when the team is started.

Roland Bánfi -> Rublo played since 22/03/2013
One more season and TeamSolex will have a carte blanche ready for him  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on August 23, 2013, 02:14:11 pm
How exactly does the salary increase (or decrease) system work? I have to pay lower salaries now for some cyclists, than I had to at the end of last season.

For instance, at the end of season 12, for these cyclists I had to pay:
Lazlo Stroobants:  954
Alrik Luttecke: 971
Sonny Mader: 703
Maximilien DeVlamynck: 1281

At this moment, I have to pay for the same cyclists:
Lazlo Stroobants: 849 
Alrik Luttecke: 822
Sonny Mader: 548
Maximilien DeVlamynck: 958

Is this a bug, or have my cyclists been caught cheating with doping and are their results scratched?  :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on August 23, 2013, 03:11:33 pm
How exactly does the salary increase (or decrease) system work? I have to pay lower salaries now for some cyclists, than I had to at the end of last season.

For instance, at the end of season 12, for these cyclists I had to pay:
Lazlo Stroobants:  954
Alrik Luttecke: 971
Sonny Mader: 703
Maximilien DeVlamynck: 1281

At this moment, I have to pay for the same cyclists:
Lazlo Stroobants: 849 
Alrik Luttecke: 822
Sonny Mader: 548
Maximilien DeVlamynck: 958

Is this a bug, or have my cyclists been caught cheating with doping and are their results scratched?  :P

Once you leave 1a, the salary of your cyclists resets at the end of the season I believe...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 23, 2013, 04:07:04 pm
There is a basic salary according skills ( initial salary).
After every point in 1a increases salary and international points ( more in NT than u23,u21).
After every season only top10 in 1a are saved and only top10 increases the initial salary. ( for this it can decreased after delete positions from 11 to 30 that can give you points and higher salary).

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on August 23, 2013, 07:50:47 pm
There is a basic salary according skills ( initial salary).
After every point in 1a increases salary and international points ( more in NT than u23,u21).
After every season only top10 in 1a are saved and only top10 increases the initial salary. ( for this it can decreased after delete positions from 11 to 30 that can give you points and higher salary).

That makes sense indeed. Salary increase was mainly because of points scored in positions 11-30.

@dziemie: although close, I managed to stay in 1st division, so that couldn't be the case.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on August 25, 2013, 09:50:03 pm
Quite simple question but I cannot find the answer anywhere: if I withdraw one of my riders previously signed up to a race will I receive "his" 1000 euros back?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 25, 2013, 09:52:22 pm
Quite simple question but I cannot find the answer anywhere: if I withdraw one of my riders previously signed up to a race will I receive "his" 1000 euros back?
No
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurelio_Uccheddu on August 29, 2013, 11:21:29 pm
Ok I've created the official page of
Cycling For Fun Italia
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cycling-For-Fun-Italia/171390106382078

I hope in a Good Luck and in a good answer of the Italian people..and in this work help me cuccuru (2c)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Timidus on August 30, 2013, 08:50:47 am
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/gregario.png)

This means a rider is helping the captain, right?

In todays race I had a helper with this icon in 4th section, but he was not in the group with my captain (or any other of my riders).

Bug? Or can two groups be so close in some way, that the helper still helps? (there were 12 seconds between them).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on August 30, 2013, 08:58:55 am
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/gregario.png)

This means a rider is helping the captain, right?

In todays race I had a helper with this icon in 4th section, but he was not in the group with my captain (or any other of my riders).

Bug? Or can two groups be so close in some way, that the helper still helps? (there were 12 seconds between them).

the icon actually means the helper has the potential to do very good work for his captain.
If he is in the same group, the captain has a high value helper. If he is in another group, the captain is is missing out on a great helper due to bad tactics.  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Timidus on August 30, 2013, 09:09:03 am


the icon actually means the helper has the potential to do very good work for his captain.
If he is in the same group, the captain has a high value helper. If he is in another group, the captain is is missing out on a great helper due to bad tactics.  ;)

Oh - in that case, the translations (english and danish) aren't too good.

Is there anywhere the meaning of those new icons are described? I was wondering about the exact meaning of some of them - if not all of them ;-)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 30, 2013, 06:05:36 pm
No, the icon mean that the helper is doing their job.

Although he is in other group when you see icon in the last section the helper was with their leader ( for this the leader has the bonus in the next section).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on August 30, 2013, 06:08:58 pm
No, the icon mean that the helper is doing their job.

Although he is in other group when you see icon in the last section the helper was with their leader ( for this the leader has the bonus in the next section).

Oh, that got lost in translation  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 31, 2013, 03:39:49 am
No, the icon mean that the helper is doing their job.
On this, I noticed that last race, only one of my domestiques had this icon (despite all three cyclists having the same time for 3 sections).  Does this mean that only one of my domestiques were working?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: PalmeirasBrasil on August 31, 2013, 05:52:27 am
No, the icon mean that the helper is doing their job.
On this, I noticed that last race, only one of my domestiques had this icon (despite all three cyclists having the same time for 3 sections).  Does this mean that only one of my domestiques were working?

Only the best one
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 31, 2013, 06:41:36 am
No, the icon mean that the helper is doing their job.
On this, I noticed that last race, only one of my domestiques had this icon (despite all three cyclists having the same time for 3 sections).  Does this mean that only one of my domestiques were working?
Only the best one
Only my best domestique works, or only my best domestique has the icon?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: EPOglucidos on August 31, 2013, 08:54:54 am
No, the icon mean that the helper is doing their job.
On this, I noticed that last race, only one of my domestiques had this icon (despite all three cyclists having the same time for 3 sections).  Does this mean that only one of my domestiques were working?
Only the best one
Only my best domestique works, or only my best domestique has the icon?

Only ur best domestique works, it is the same having one or 4, just the best one add "his help" to the lider
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 31, 2013, 11:33:26 am
The best one helps and the best one has the icon
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 03, 2013, 10:51:41 pm
What does (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/222/9a19.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/9a19.jpg/) icon mean? Is it something related to Grand Tours?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 04, 2013, 06:36:22 am
What does (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/222/9a19.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/9a19.jpg/) icon mean? Is it something related to Grand Tours?
It's a silver quality cyclist in tours (in general).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 04, 2013, 10:52:54 am
Thanks.
There is another question - tactical one - I would like to ask: what is the best tactic for a rider with extremely low level of aggressiveness skill (between 0 and 5)? Shall such a rider avoid aggressive riding at all, remaining on (maximum) "watcher" mode?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on September 04, 2013, 10:56:11 am
What does (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/222/9a19.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/9a19.jpg/) icon mean? Is it something related to Grand Tours?
It's a silver quality cyclist in tours (in general).

Icons for mountain riders, Hill riders, cobblestone etc. can be a guideline.
Tour icons are very misleading and shouldn't be used as guidlines by new users of the game.

Aggressiveness is only important when the stage has hill (more the better) and sprint (flat section at the end section).

Ex.
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/lieja.jpg)
aggrsiveness and downhill not so important

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/gerrie.jpg)
much riding up and Down. Aggressiveness (punch) and downhill are very important.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on September 04, 2013, 11:07:41 am
What does (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/222/9a19.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/9a19.jpg/) icon mean? Is it something related to Grand Tours?
It's a silver quality cyclist in tours (in general).

Icons for mountain riders, Hill riders, cobblestone etc. can be a guideline.
Tour icons are very misleading and shouldn't be used as guidlines by new users of the game.


Indeed, the tour icon is more an indication of an allrounder, not typically a tour specialist.
The really great tour riders, mostly have these icons, because they are good allrounders.

But TT is pretty important in the calculation of the tour icon. while in a lot of tours the influence of TT is marginal  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 04, 2013, 11:22:27 am
Aggressiveness is only important when the stage has hill (more the better) and sprint (flat section at the end section).
Hmm, now I start to understand the difference between aggressiveness skill and aggressive riding...
Thank you for both explanations.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on September 04, 2013, 11:32:43 am
Aggressiveness is only important when the stage has hill (more the better) and sprint (flat section at the end section).
Hmm, now I start to understand the difference between aggressiveness skill and aggressive riding...
Thank you for both explanations.
This is a normal mistake made by new users.

Also a rider don't have to have high team Work for being a good domestic/gregario  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Timidus on September 05, 2013, 09:26:18 am
What does this icon mean?

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/sleep.png)

Bad tactic or just unlucky rider?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on September 05, 2013, 09:48:56 am
What does this icon mean?

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/sleep.png)

Bad tactic or just unlucky rider?

Bad tactic
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 05, 2013, 01:26:03 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/why.png)
If your cyclist gets this, does this mean he didn't help his leader in that section?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on September 05, 2013, 01:39:10 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/why.png)
If your cyclist gets this, does this mean he didn't help his leader in that section?

It means your helper is ahead of the leader. So the next section the leader doesn't get a bonus
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 05, 2013, 02:16:06 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/why.png)
If your cyclist gets this, does this mean he didn't help his leader in that section?
It means your helper is ahead of the leader. So the next section the leader doesn't get a bonus
That's assuming there isn't another domestique with the leader?  Or won't the icon show up in that case?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on September 05, 2013, 04:58:58 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/why.png)
If your cyclist gets this, does this mean he didn't help his leader in that section?
It means your helper is ahead of the leader. So the next section the leader doesn't get a bonus
That's assuming there isn't another domestique with the leader?  Or won't the icon show up in that case?
you're right. The icon means he won't get help from this helper the next section
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 07, 2013, 01:08:58 pm
No help, no other helpers.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 08, 2013, 09:06:12 pm
Please tell me which of the following tactical options (1, 2 or 3) is more correct.
We have (for example) a rider that has climbing skill of 80 and stamina value of 10. That rider:
1) should avoid mountain races at all until his stamina will be trained into some acceptable level;
2) should avoid races that have more than 1 mountain stage within (e.g. flat/flat/hills/mountain/flat);
3) can participate in mountain races (with more than 1 mountain stage within) but should ride very carefully and not waste his energy points until the last stage?
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Post by: RaboRuben on September 08, 2013, 09:30:04 pm
(Use the word section instead of stage ;) A stage is the whole race and it consists of 5 sections).

About your rider. It all depends on the competition, how good are his opponents. I don't know the strength of the 3rd divisions, but I would say that is not a very good climber (80 climbing is not very high, 10 stamina is very low).
So depending on his other stats (downhill is as important as stamina in a mountain stage, and in a flat/climb or climb/sprint stage of course flat and sprint are important) and on the strength of the competition I would say, avoid the mountain stages (trying it out can't hurt of course).
If you decide to give it a try he won't be a favourite so you should try to keep him the front of the race as long as possible. Which means: using more energypoints in the early sections of the race (in case of pure climbing). Saving up energy points for the latter sections is a tactic for very strong riders.
But for tactics it's mainly a lot of trying out different things and see what works and what doesn't.
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Post by: TeamSolex on September 08, 2013, 09:31:01 pm
Please tell me which of the following tactical options (1, 2 or 3) is more correct.
We have (for example) a rider that has climbing skill of 80 and stamina value of 10. That rider:
1) should avoid mountain races at all until his stamina will be trained into some acceptable level;
2) should avoid races that have more than 1 mountain stage within (e.g. flat/flat/hills/mountain/flat);
3) can participate in mountain races (with more than 1 mountain stage within) but should ride very carefully and not waste his energy points until the last stage?

I love it.  It is a hard game to learn ;D

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/girons.jpg)
Adjust you tactic for your goal!

Spending Energy points (no more than 12). If you use 12 it doesnt matter what his stamina is. If you only spend 10 or 11. It just gives your riders a bonus in the end! Lets say if other riders spend more than you did. So this is relative bonus.
Effect of energy point is given at: mountain (brown), hill (blue), cobblestone (red), downhill (yellow), plain (green) and sprint (only last section if its green)

The last skills of a rider are passive skills: stamina, technique, aggressiveness, teamwork. These have nothing to do with energy points.

10 stamina for a mountain rider is very low. So this will make it difficult for him to do well in a mountain stage. But it depends how strong riders your are competing against.

* rabo also typed an answers if it doesn't make sense ask again or try to use the chat!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 08, 2013, 09:43:14 pm
Thanks a lot for your detailed and priceless explanations, gentlemen!

Use the word section instead of stage ;)
I will :)

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If you only spend 10 or 11. It just gives your riders a bonus in the end!
In upcoming two races I'll try this method...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on September 09, 2013, 11:15:28 am
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If you only spend 10 or 11. It just gives your riders a bonus in the end!

Can you explain this? I assumed 12 was always the best  :o
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on September 09, 2013, 11:31:38 am
If you use less energy points in the race in the final section you get a small bonus like experience, weather etc.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 09, 2013, 11:50:03 am
Every section Energy is a little bonus that is higher when you have more energy points .
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Post by: WinterIsComing on September 09, 2013, 12:51:57 pm
Every section Energy is a little bonus that is higher when you have more energy points .

Now that confuses me a little bit. I thought only in the last section, cyclists who didn't use all their energy points got a bonus, like Sjiz referred to in his post above yours.

But if you put it like that, it occurs to me that a '3' in a 2nd section is worth more energy when the first section was a 1 than if it was a 2.

To put it in an example:
Cyclist A tactic: 13314
Cyclist B tactit: 23214

Will both cyclists have the same energy bonus in section 2, or will cyclist A be faster because he didn't use as much energy in the first section? Like I said, I always assumed the bonus only is active in the last section if a cyclist doesn't use all his 12 points available.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 09, 2013, 02:50:13 pm
Bonus is active every section , although as I said is a little bonus and only one point difference is minimal.

EVERY SECTION we used Global Value + effort bonus + helper bonus + energy bonus
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on September 09, 2013, 05:50:22 pm
Still a bit confused, sorry for being thick  :-[

Trying to keep the simple: are there any cases where 2-2-2-2-2 or 2-2-2-2-3 will be better than 2-2-2-2-4?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 09, 2013, 06:00:32 pm
No, because effort bonus is very high and and one aggresive or more aggresive if both cyclists are equal done a higher bonus than watcher or calm.

You only have more energy but it is a low bonus.

You always have to use the less effort you can while you are in front group. If you save energy points and you lose positions and seconds, the result is worse than if you use all your energy points.
For this I always recommend to people use 12 efforts until they are expert players.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on September 10, 2013, 12:48:50 pm
@blah, it's to simple to say what tactic is better it mainly depends on how strong your rider is [GV] within the peleton.
The first thing you do after you sign up is to check if your cyclist is listed with the 5 favorites or is able to chalange one of them.
If he is listed favorite or can chalange the favorites then you can use different tactics because you need less effort to stay in front and safe
energy for the last sector(s).
If your rider can't even chalange one of the favorites you probably need more effort [energy points] to stay to the front.

Lets just simply make some examples.
A sprint race in wich you can challange or are listed as one of the favorites you could use 00005.
Since he has a high GV in this race he won't need to much effort to stay in the front group.
If he can't even chalange one of the favorites you probably need more effort to stay with the favorites so lets say 21115
The difference between those 2 tactics is that the 5 in sector 5 in the first example is stronger because the cyclist used less effort in the first 4 sections.

The second big influence in setting your tactics is a helper, the stronger your helper the less effort your leader needs to keep up.
Now, you leader is a good sprinter but can't challange so you use 21115 to keep up [example] but with a good helper he might survive with 20005
wich means he used less effort wich means that the 5 in sector 5 is stronger and your sprinter will finish higher in the sprint if you can manage to keep
his helper with him in the first 4 sections.

So basicly you can use less effort if your cyclist is either listed among the favorites and/or has a very good helper.

Those tactis used are just an example and you are also depending on tactics of other cyclists and other influences like bad luck, equipment, etc.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on September 10, 2013, 08:23:54 pm
Ah, I am with it now - it is not about going 3 or 4 in last section (so less than 12 in all), but 5 in the last with less in the first four sections so it does not get to 12 in total....

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on September 10, 2013, 08:34:07 pm
Ah, I am with it now - it is not about going 3 or 4 in last section (so less than 12 in all), but 5 in the last with less in the first four sections so it does not get to 12 in total....
Well, in most races you will have to use 12. But if you can manage to do it with less then your rider will have a small extra bonus.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: blahblah on September 10, 2013, 09:43:08 pm
Yep, that wasn't clear above - but understand now...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on September 11, 2013, 12:28:23 am
I think you best stick to 12 points to gain experience on tactics and work your way to when you can use less from experience.
Just keep in mind that a flat section is the section where it's mostly pointless to try and make a difference though you can still loose time there.
If you race a mountain stage with one flat section you best use that section to safe energy for the climb sections, same with downhill.
Lets say section 4 is downhill and the other sections are climbing you don't want to waste your precious energy on that downhill section normaly.
There's always a risk you loose time on a flat section or downhill section but if you use energy there you might come short on the climbing sections.

Just keep in mind that it also depends on what your goal is in a race, sometimes it pays to follow the real climbers as long as possible to create a gap between your tour captain and his competitors for the GC in wich case you use different tactics.
Also tactics depends on stats and underground [climbing, flat, cobble etc.] bonus.
Just keep using 12 points but the more green sectors the less points you need the stronger your 5 is in the last section.
It's also not a rule of thumb to always keep a 5 for section 5 if you use 12 points, you might loose connection with the front that even 5 points in the last section can't repair.

If you watch a race you are in just look where the gaps are created, how big the difference gets per section and write down the 5 favorites to follow them.
Now you don't know their tactics, health, form  etc. but it can give you a clue.
For instance you will notice that normaly the front group gets bigger in a flat section just after a climb.
Tactics are no absolute science, there is no set of winning tactic, it depends on way to much factors like helpers going up that first climb way to fast or the favorite loosing his helpers to never to return.
That is what makes this game fun.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Timidus on September 11, 2013, 09:46:42 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/gregario.png)

What does it mean when this icon is not shown despite the helper being in the same section as the captain in the previous (and current section)?

It has happened to me in both of the two recent sprints - and I've doublechecked with the supporter tactics history that the roles were set. It's just not always shown or?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 11, 2013, 10:09:17 pm
I explain in a post, I don't know if here.

If your helper and your leader are in section 1 together. The leader has a bonus in section 2 and in section 2 the helper has the icon that shown that he has helped in this section
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 11, 2013, 10:13:40 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/gregario.png)

What does it mean when this icon is not shown despite the helper being in the same section as the captain in the previous (and current section)?

It has happened to me in both of the two recent sprints - and I've doublechecked with the supporter tactics history that the roles were set. It's just not always shown or?
The best domestique who's with a leader at the start of a section always helps.

I'm going out on a limb here, and I'm guessing that the icon only shows up either when the domestique is especially helpful, or when the leader would have lost time if it wasn't for the domestique's help.  I'm just taking an educated guess though (so you could wait for confirmation).


The helper needs a minimum level to get the icon and when you have more than one helper, only your best helper has the icon ( the helper that gives the bonus is always the best and only one)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 12, 2013, 08:34:43 am
I wonder how many riders with real names and surnames (e.g. Paolo Tiralongo) are there in CFF world. Do you know what is the possibility to discover such a "real" rider in draft?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on September 12, 2013, 08:45:53 am
I know theres a Marco Pantani(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=205808) and a Bill Clinton (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=936).

The chance to discover one i have no idea, its also very hard to determine. Theres a database of an x amount of first and last names these get randomly paired with each other when you pull/draft someone. It is also difficult to calculate the odds on this as for people different " real" names are known. In Holland we may have a well known name but he can be completely unknown in Italy and the other way around.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on September 12, 2013, 10:08:55 am
Joost Posthuma  http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=131329
Neil Armstrong  http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=205910
Bobby Kennedy http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=751


Maybe an idea to open a topic about real/funny names?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 12, 2013, 10:17:40 am
Good !!!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on September 12, 2013, 12:10:29 pm
Is there a way for me to browse the free cyclist market after i have made my picks? Its hard to advise a mentor team without being able to see who is on the list except for clicking teams.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 12, 2013, 01:31:28 pm
No, I didn't like too much the use some teams could do with these information
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on September 12, 2013, 06:13:58 pm
Ok, another question: how long do the free picks stay active of will they be active forever until you pick your second rider?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 12, 2013, 07:50:35 pm
Until you pick your second cyclist
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on September 18, 2013, 07:51:33 am
Is there a way to stop the mentor thing but not lose the teams that are your mentor teams? I have just got another team to mentor and figured that it was enough to mentor 2 teams at a time so i wanted to stop them being able to select me as a mentor but not lose my teams. So i stopped being a mentor and lost all my teams ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on September 18, 2013, 02:34:36 pm
Second that question! Same thing happened to me a while ago.
You should be able to prevent new teams from asking you to become their mentor while still keeping your current mentor teams.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 19, 2013, 02:47:18 pm
I hope I will explain my case correctly:
On the team page there is a section where we can set training program to our riders. In each rider line, after his skills there is a gap where we can choose his training program. And above each gap we can see what kind of training he is doing actually. Obvious so far, is't it? ;)
Now, after clicking the name of the actual training (above the gap) we can see a chart with a number (e.g. 0,17).
My question is: what this number is? Does it show how particular skill increases every training session?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 19, 2013, 05:04:38 pm
I hope I will explain my case correctly:
On the team page there is a section where we can set training program to our riders. In each rider line, after his skills there is a gap where we can choose his training program. And above each gap we can see what kind of training he is doing actually. Obvious so far, is't it? ;)
Now, after clicking the name of the actual training (above the gap) we can see a chart with a number (e.g. 0,17).
My question is: what this number is? Does it show how particular skill increases every training session?

Yes, but you must think that hidden talent can increase this value
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 19, 2013, 10:03:07 pm
Is this value permanent or not?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on September 19, 2013, 10:06:04 pm
It depends on the actual level of the skill. The higher the skill is, the lower the growth is. More info here: http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 21, 2013, 10:28:48 pm
Ok, thanks.
Another question came to my mind: among possible achievements there is "Jens Heppner Trophy to the winner of Coln Tour and Deutschland Tour". What is or where is the "Coln Tour"?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 21, 2013, 10:43:56 pm
Ok, thanks.
Another question came to my mind: among possible achievements there is "Jens Heppner Trophy to the winner of Coln Tour and Deutschland Tour". What is or where is the "Coln Tour"?
Tour de Colonia - Category B - Race 14  (opps - race 19) :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on September 21, 2013, 11:03:49 pm
There is (Race 19)! I haven't noticed before...
Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on September 22, 2013, 12:45:19 am
Seems like an achievement that will never be awarded to someone. Tour de Colonia is a cobble/hill race and such a rider has no chance at all to win the Deutschland Tour and vice versa.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on September 22, 2013, 12:55:25 am
Seems like an achievement that will never be awarded to someone. Tour de Colonia is a cobble/hill race and such a rider has no chance at all to win the Deutschland Tour and vice versa.

You can use different riders, it's not necessary to win both races with the same cyclist.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on September 22, 2013, 09:25:00 pm
What happened in section 4 of the NT race tonight?  :o Is it even possible to make such differences in a downhill section? I've never seen that before.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on September 23, 2013, 12:38:30 am
Good for us. :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 28, 2013, 08:45:54 pm
Do the 18 year old youth races (in draft http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/newstages2.php ) have hidden weather bonuses?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: jaxika on September 29, 2013, 09:09:12 pm
Guys, in the stage 10 of national races where the final section its downhill, but seems like flat in the very final, the sprint stat how much worth in the GV? Or its worth of not any?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: jpnwrt on October 02, 2013, 08:53:42 am
Hello.

I am confused about training camp schedule. I understand that 15 training days and 15 bonus days are in-game days, but I am not sure how to understand: "starting with the day (real-life day) AFTER he has been registered for the training camp".

For example, today is Oct. 2nd, midday - between races #77 and #78.
So my understanding is, that if I register for training camp at any time today (and it doesn't matter, if I do it now actually, or shortly after evening race #78, or even if I've already done it a few hours before morning race #77 - as long as I register on the 2nd of Oct., the training camp will begin on the first real-life day after registering, i.e Oct. 3rd.  And further, that regardless if my racer has been registered say at 3am (before race #77) today, or if I register him between races #77-#78, or if I let him participate in race #78 and register him say at 11 pm today - his training camp will begin tomorrow, he will be unavailable for stages: #79-#93, and his training bonus will cover races #94-#108.

But when I click on ->Team->Training camp, it doesn't show Almeria (#94), it shows GP Plouay (#93)!

1) Is my understanding (see above) correct, and the race shown (Plouay in this case) is not the race when my racer can race again, with bonus, but actually the last race, in which he will NOT be able to participate, if I register him today
Or 2) - should I disregard the above mention of real-life days, and to find out the first race when my racer can race again, just count to 16 (15+1) starting with the race immediately following training camp registration (#77+15+1=#93, equivalent to race currently displayed in the training camp section)
Or 3) - it's neither 1) nor 2), but ...

I already messed up with one training camp, so I will be really grateful for help :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on October 02, 2013, 12:14:41 pm
The instructions there are a bit misleading.

Take it as follows:
- your rider will start TC on the next TRAINING (no matter if you signed him up before or after the race - you can sign up until the last seconds before TRAINING SESSION)
- your rider will be in the camp for 15 TRAININGS and he can race with the bonus right after the 15th training (so actually he only misses 14 races)
- between the race and the training the shown pictures are wrong (because it changes after the race not after the training)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: jpnwrt on October 02, 2013, 12:28:13 pm
Ideal answer - fast, short, and perfectly clear! THANKS  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 02, 2013, 12:31:46 pm
Guys, in the stage 10 of national races where the final section its downhill, but seems like flat in the very final, the sprint stat how much worth in the GV? Or its worth of not any?
If it looks really flat sprint can count for a bit. In the case of stage 10 of the NT I would say that is the case.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: jaxika on October 02, 2013, 07:08:39 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 03, 2013, 09:43:20 am
At what exact times is the staff list updated each day?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 03, 2013, 10:45:35 am
00:38 and every 4 hours :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 03, 2013, 12:50:29 pm
It didn't update at 12:38.
I have the feeling it does not update every 4 hours, that's why I asked.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 03, 2013, 12:51:06 pm
How many riders must have been promoted to gain "Promoted youth cyclists" achievement?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 03, 2013, 12:54:19 pm
Every 4 hours, not complete update, I added news, but all they are 24 hours in market , after 24h they dissapeared.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 03, 2013, 01:08:38 pm
Ah, that explains a lot. Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 09, 2013, 07:51:23 am
This morning Simpson was the #2 favorite. He finieshed 10th and he still received the light bulb icon for winning a lot of places due to tactics. How can that be possible when he was a favorite and finished actuelly to low? (Not the first time btw, had the same when he was 4th favorie and finished 7th)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on October 09, 2013, 08:04:25 am
Low health and lower experienece can only explain it i think. Because of that your general GV can be lower than some other riders (lower favourites). With full health he was 2nd favourite and with low maybe 12th-15th. So then u won some positions because of your tactic. Same could be with experience. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 09, 2013, 08:13:08 am
Last time i didnt screw up with health ;) Then it was only experience.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 09, 2013, 08:14:37 am
To make a favorite list, we use only your skills and % of influence in stage. We give to all cyclists a value and we order the cyclists that are in race.

In the stage we get a initial value that are your skills and influence + bonuses ( form,health, climate, staff, bike and training camp). With this new value we have an initial position ( now you are not 2nd). In this terrain there are a lot of great level and be or not with training camp bonuses, climate, or have more or less points in health-form give you earn or lose positions.

In this case you are not top20 in initial position.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 09, 2013, 08:25:39 am
That makes sense. It just looks a bit strange when you are in the favorites with a rider and then get a well done icon for finishing outside the top 5 :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 09, 2013, 08:28:14 am
That makes sense. It just looks a bit strange when you are in the favorites with a rider and then get a well done icon for finishing outside the top 5 :P

The day before I cannot know your exact bonuses and if could do it ,I didn't add, it is not funny know exact vaue before race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 09, 2013, 08:32:18 am
I agree, its the best way to do it. It just created this strange situation i had. But thats fine.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 10, 2013, 02:23:46 pm
Achievements category: for what we can win "Bill Gates Trophy"?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 10, 2013, 02:53:24 pm
Achievements category: for what we can win "Bill Gates Trophy"?

You'll achieve that for winning the hidden race through Silicon Valley ;) 

Problem is that noone knows how to unlock the damn thing...  :P

Seriously, my guess is that it has got something to do with an abundance of money
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 10, 2013, 03:21:30 pm
Achievements category: for what we can win "Bill Gates Trophy"?

You'll achieve that for winning the hidden race through Silicon Valley ;) 

Problem is that noone knows how to unlock the damn thing...  :P

Seriously, my guess is that it has got something to do with an abundance of money that you have to spend on riders from TeamRolf (which are all very good riders, dont let anyone tell you otherwise!)

Now its correct. I believe thats how you get it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Atalm93 on October 14, 2013, 04:25:54 pm
I was wondering about one thing, is it possible to add Team Time trials to the game?
I really miss it, but if it isnt possible I understand, a loss though.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on October 15, 2013, 11:14:20 am
I was wondering about one thing, is it possible to add Team Time trials to the game?
I really miss it, but if it isnt possible I understand, a loss though.

I dont think the game engine will be able to generate a team time trial.
Furthermore the season calendar are not changeable. This is a little static. Instead you have to custom fit the riders for stages or tours.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 15, 2013, 11:23:42 am
Even though i dont think it would make it in to the game because of the reasonms you mentiond(no changes to the calender) I do think a Team time trial world championship would be fun though. Pretty fun addition now i think about it.

Also i can imagine it would take some adjusting for the time trial engine but it would be possible. Instead of calculating everything for one rider. Add the values for all 5 signed up riders (so you potentially have 500 in a stat) and then divide it by 5 to get the GV for your team. You would have an average for all stats so all bonusses etc can be calculated normally.

To be good at it you need 5 excellent time trialers which is a taxing thing to have for a team. Maybe tune the riders needed for the race. 4 or 3 or something may be better.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 15, 2013, 12:55:40 pm
If a team TT will be implemented, I think it would be good to tune the basic GV for TT a bit and add a good amount of teamwork in the GV. Teamwork is a very important stat in a team TT in real life, and it would make the stat in CFF more significant.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 15, 2013, 01:28:31 pm
In old Cff , I made an TTT . It is "easy" . I must adapt values to get an average with 5-6 cyclists with a Team Work influence.
The problem is that calendar is fixed and add an extra-race I don't know a good mode to add, sorry.
Some options I have studied, but I don't like anyone.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 20, 2013, 06:42:23 pm
A question that I have mentioned several days ago.
What do these icons from Hall of Fame mean?

1) (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1417/00gh.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/00gh.gif/)
2) (http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1529/aqh.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/aqh.gif/)
3) (http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1544/dhyy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/dhyy.jpg/) (and other specialists icons)
4) (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1227/c6u0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/c6u0.jpg/)
5) (http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8058/vftw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/vftw.jpg/)
6) (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3449/hld4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/hld4.jpg/)
7) (http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5779/yfvr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/yfvr.jpg/)
8 ) (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1499/l8ss.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/l8ss.jpg/)
9) and what is the difference between (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8165/3sb.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/3sb.gif/) and (http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1479/7q2s.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/7q2s.jpg/)

Thanks in advance for your help!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 20, 2013, 06:48:58 pm
1. Cyclist with the most points in a season in 1a.
2. Team finished 3rd in a season in 1a.
3. Not sure, but I think cyclist with the most points in a season in races that have been listed under this icon by Osca.
4. Same, but for Tours.
5. Cyclist with the most points in NT-races in a season.
6. Same but for U21
7. Same but for U23
8. Don't know, perhaps something with live-races or something.
9. Ukranian cyclist with the most points in a season in 1a vs Ukranian team with the most points in a season in 1a.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 20, 2013, 06:50:15 pm
Quote
What do these icons from Hall of Fame mean?
8 ) (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1499/l8ss.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/l8ss.jpg/) World cup winner (div1).  There's a second one for the WC time trial

Opps lol.  Looks similar.  That must have come with the introduction of the world cup (points for category A races), and looking on the rankings page, that's the jumper image.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 20, 2013, 06:50:52 pm
No, that is: (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/arcoiris.gif)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on October 20, 2013, 06:58:36 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/adoquinoro.jpg)

Leader of the DT of each sub-ranking at the end of the season.


(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1499/l8ss.jpg)
World Cup winner (Milan San Remo, Flandes, ...)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 20, 2013, 08:10:57 pm
OK, now I understand all of them. Thanks!
Anyway, most of these achievements are available only for 1a teams...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 20, 2013, 08:15:42 pm
Actually, they are only available for the best of the best 1a teams. ;)
Kinda how it works in the whole world isn't it?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on October 22, 2013, 11:00:59 am
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1499/l8ss.jpg)

World cup winner (Winner of classification of all category A races)


(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/arcoiris.gif)

World championship winner (WC on the road - 1 race)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 22, 2013, 11:08:51 am
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1499/l8ss.jpg)

World cup winner (Winner of classification of all category A races)


(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1499/l8ss.jpg)

World championship winner (WC on the road - 1 race)


World Championship winner (Road race):(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/arcoiris.png)


World cup: (http://www.campyman.com/uploads/2/9/5/9/2959112/7380772_orig.jpg)
World Champion: (http://static1.thcdn.com/productimg/0/600/600/18/10765318-1364312251-319939.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on October 22, 2013, 11:31:34 am
After the world cup ranking has been implemented (individual and team). Does this count for your stores profit?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 22, 2013, 12:31:04 pm
Actually it doesn't count.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 01, 2013, 12:46:46 pm
Why is the topic for the seasons 14 betting locked for replies for (i assume) non moderators? Cant respond :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 01, 2013, 12:53:50 pm
Maybe Aurelio closed because bids are closed, although we should comment about this .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 01, 2013, 01:04:59 pm
Or make a discussion topic. It would be fun to comment on those lists per race like all those people picking Loewenthal for Paris-Nice.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 02, 2013, 01:21:30 pm
In the Dutch NT-forum, can a moderator please 'unpin' all the 'Season 13'-topics, and instead 'pin' the 'Season 14'-topics?

Thanks in advance  :-*
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on November 02, 2013, 01:50:20 pm
In the Dutch NT-forum, can a moderator please 'unpin' all the 'Season 13'-topics, and instead 'pin' the 'Season 14'-topics?

Thanks in advance  :-*

Done.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 02, 2013, 02:20:34 pm
In the Dutch NT-forum, can a moderator please 'unpin' all the 'Season 13'-topics, and instead 'pin' the 'Season 14'-topics?

Thanks in advance  :-*

Done.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 04, 2013, 11:09:13 am
What is the idea behind riders not being able to gain more than 100 experience? I would think that should just keep rising without a limit.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Slasher on November 04, 2013, 11:53:20 am
What is the idea behind riders not being able to gain more than 100 experience? I would think that should just keep rising without a limit.
+1 :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 04, 2013, 12:36:46 pm
You could say the same about any attribute.  Imagine 200 hills, or 200 sprint.  100 seems to me to be a sane limit, after all, if you're playing hard on experience whilst still playing the game, you won't hit 100 experience until the cyclist is in their early 30s.  And if a cyclist isn't clued on by age 30, would they really gain that much more?  Plus, do you really want people grinding the game?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 04, 2013, 01:10:15 pm
You could say the same about any attribute.  Imagine 200 hills, or 200 sprint.  100 seems to me to be a sane limit, after all, if you're playing hard on experience whilst still playing the game, you won't hit 100 experience until the cyclist is in their early 30s.  And if a cyclist isn't clued on by age 30, would they really gain that much more?  Plus, do you really want people grinding the game?

I think the same.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Slasher on November 05, 2013, 11:54:12 am
You could say the same about any attribute.  Imagine 200 hills, or 200 sprint.  100 seems to me to be a sane limit, after all, if you're playing hard on experience whilst still playing the game, you won't hit 100 experience until the cyclist is in their early 30s.  And if a cyclist isn't clued on by age 30, would they really gain that much more?  Plus, do you really want people grinding the game?
Giovanni Bruseghin   Age : 27   Wage : 4816
Stamina : 81   Sprint : 50   Climbing : 94
Flat : 81   Cobblestone : 50   Technique : 80
Downhill : 83   Hills : 72   Aggressiveness : 16
Time Trial : 55   Teamwork : 12   Experience : 100

Gio is a little bit dissapointed now  :'(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 05, 2013, 12:07:03 pm
You could say the same about any attribute.  Imagine 200 hills, or 200 sprint.  100 seems to me to be a sane limit, after all, if you're playing hard on experience whilst still playing the game, you won't hit 100 experience until the cyclist is in their early 30s.  And if a cyclist isn't clued on by age 30, would they really gain that much more?  Plus, do you really want people grinding the game?
Giovanni Bruseghin   Age : 27   Wage : 4816
Stamina : 81   Sprint : 50   Climbing : 94
Flat : 81   Cobblestone : 50   Technique : 80
Downhill : 83   Hills : 72   Aggressiveness : 16
Time Trial : 55   Teamwork : 12   Experience : 100

Gio is a little bit dissapointed now  :'(

He shouldn't be. It has been up to serious discussion that riders reaching 100 in experience ought to decline rapidly and fasten the decay before the 31 year age. Simply because it is unrealistic that completing so many tours will not wear the physique of a rider  ???
In the future it will not be the age which is the determinant. But the experience!!
The experience will be at the best from range 60-85. Afterward his skill will decline.
After 41 yo Horner won the read jersey in the Vuelta the moderators have discussed this matter!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 05, 2013, 12:11:42 pm
Horner won only because everybody else was tired from a long season, much like cyclists having 86 form in CFF.  Plus, are we sure there wasn't a drug attribute to his win?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 05, 2013, 12:21:36 pm
 ;)
Im just trying to tilt Slasher. There are absolute nothing seriuos what I posted. Maybe ever posted.. ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on November 05, 2013, 12:37:13 pm
;)
Im just trying to tilt Slasher. There are absolute nothing seriuos what I posted. Maybe ever posted.. ;D

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on November 06, 2013, 02:55:38 pm
I know that this case was explained in several "help sections", but it is still not clear for me.
Let's imagine a race with only two sections: cobblestone and mountain. Our rider is very good climber and very poor on cobblestone. Now:
1) he should put maximum effort on mountain section because he is good at it
or
2) he should put maximum effort on cobblestone section to compensate his poor performance there?
Guides say that option 1 is correct, but...

Thanks in advance for Your explanations!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2013, 03:07:06 pm
In general it is best to use energy on the sections where your rider is good. this is because energy and surface are bonusses for your GV. Your good climber has a high climbing stat which will be further enhanced by the bonus from the energy points. Say surface bonus gives you 10 points and your 5 energy points are a multiplier that would give you a bonus of 50 for the climbing section if you use 5 energy there. Say your surface bonus for your climber is 5 on the cobble section and multiply that by 5 for the energy your bonus would be 25. (Numbers are just an example, no idea of the real values)

But it may also be just as wise to use energy at his worst sections to stay in the group. Since having a large bonus on the climb might keep you in the same group as when you would have used a lot less energy and you may drop a group on the cobble section with less energy points where you may stay in that group with a lot of energy used.

So generally option 1 is the best since he will get the most bonus then but you may choose option 2 to try and stay in a group instead of getting one ahead.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dziemie on November 06, 2013, 03:31:00 pm
I know that this case was explained in several "help sections", but it is still not clear for me.
Let's imagine a race with only two sections: cobblestone and mountain. Our rider is very good climber and very poor on cobblestone. Now:
1) he should put maximum effort on mountain section because he is good at it
or
2) he should put maximum effort on cobblestone section to compensate his poor performance there?
Guides say that option 1 is correct, but...

Thanks in advance for Your explanations!

1. Race with a rider who has good cobbles AND good mountain  :P
2. serious: more effort in mountain should get a better result
3. BUT: keep in mind that following things also influence the succesrate of your tactic: Tactics of other riders, type of underground, ... If you have a flat - cobble race, it will not be wise to spend little points in cobble and a lot on flat, because the differences are harder to make on flat sections.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 06, 2013, 03:46:49 pm
In the 2-section race in your example the key would be to spend the minimum amount of points in the first cobble-section to stay in the first group (if at all possible).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 06, 2013, 07:32:42 pm
;)
Im just trying to tilt Slasher. There are absolute nothing seriuos what I posted. Maybe ever posted.. ;D
lol, you did that well.

In general it is best to use energy on the sections where your rider is good. this is because energy and surface are bonusses for your GV.
However, isn't the GV calculated for the entire race, not for individual sections
If a race has two cobbles & two mountain with a sprint end
a GV of 30 cobbles + 80 mountain + 40 sprint = 260
is the same as 55 cobbles + 55 mountain + 40 sprint = 260
So wouldn't the GV for each section be
52 + 52 + 52 + 52 + 52.
Therefore, a energy bonus would have to be the same regardless of which section it was used in.


If course, your cyclists can gain-lose more time in certain sections depending on terrain & length of section, so using energy in a long mountain section is normally better than using it in a short flat section.  But this doesn't change the fact that the GV is averaged for the entire stage, making the help advice inaccurate.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 06, 2013, 07:43:35 pm
Yes, but there is a terrain bonus in each section as well.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2013, 07:48:18 pm
;)
Im just trying to tilt Slasher. There are absolute nothing seriuos what I posted. Maybe ever posted.. ;D
lol, you did that well.

In general it is best to use energy on the sections where your rider is good. this is because energy and surface are bonusses for your GV.
However, isn't the GV calculated for the entire race, not for individual sections
If a race has two cobbles & two mountain with a sprint end
a GV of 30 cobbles + 80 mountain + 40 sprint = 260
is the same as 55 cobbles + 55 mountain + 40 sprint = 260
So wouldn't the GV for each section be
52 + 52 + 52 + 52 + 52.
Therefore, a energy bonus would have to be the same regardless of which section it was used in.


If course, your cyclists can gain-lose more time in certain sections depending on terrain & length of section, so using energy in a long mountain section is normally better than using it in a short flat section.  But this doesn't change the fact that the GV is averaged for the entire stage, making the help advice inaccurate.

True, but like Ruben said the surface bonus is also there. Which we can safely assume for the climber is higher on the brown, climbing, section than the cobble one. Making energy points spent in the climbing section more valuable.

Your example 52 * surface bonus * energy points. Higher surface bonus means higher points total. so in fact the energy bonus is not the same, well perhaps percentage wise it is, but value wise its not.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 06, 2013, 07:50:34 pm
Difficult to calculate.

In mountain,global value of section is increased in every section to get bigger difference ( it is different in every section, more big as section is near to finish), but effort bonus is bigger at init to help to make funny stages and that people can attack, because we have every section other bonus that is energy ( less efforts you have used more energy).

For this too many factors. For me in mountain always you should use high efforts if you are a medium-good climber , but use more at init or end is difficult. I recommend mantain helper as much as you can to get helper bonuses in more mountain sections. For this maybe you can run with low efforts at init to help your helper to mantain in your group.
If your helper is better than you maybe you can use high effort with leader and helper. Always you need practice and good luck due to groups difference is a random number and 1-2% more or less can do you enter or not in group 2, group1 or group 3 :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2013, 07:53:27 pm
Interesting. So the riders in one group are not always within say 5% of each other? This may be like 2% some races(or sections?) and 10% on other ones?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 06, 2013, 08:02:17 pm
In every terrain I use a maximum and a minimum % to make groups, every group has max and min.

In mountain % is lower and in plain-downhill higher %.

Wind makes % decrease .

To get these % random function for this one time you can have luck and enter in higher group by 0.001 and other time you are in group 2 by 0.001 with same tactic :D
Cyclist luck and % of groups have influence.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2013, 09:03:39 pm
Cool! And yes, using the same tactic 2 years in a row never gives the same results :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on November 06, 2013, 09:46:31 pm
Thanks a lot! Now it's time for practise...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 06, 2013, 09:55:42 pm
Cool! And yes, using the same tactic 2 years in a row never gives the same results :P

If not random, I always would know best tactic but it is imposible to know due to luck and random max-min.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on November 07, 2013, 11:29:48 am
Would it be possible to add a number to the top of the searchlist for NT-managers that shows how many riders are in the list?

For example: when looking for just all 19 y.o. riders, at the top of the list it shows that there are for example a total of 40 riders in the list. Kind of like the number at the left top corner of the standard team-page that shows how many riders you have (Team 17/20).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 07, 2013, 12:11:31 pm
Would it be possible to add a number to the top of the searchlist for NT-managers that shows how many riders are in the list?

For example: when looking for just all 19 y.o. riders, at the top of the list it shows that there are for example a total of 40 riders in the list. Kind of like the number at the left top corner of the standard team-page that shows how many riders you have (Team 17/20).

+1

In addition, it would be nice if it were possible to increase the range of search results in the NT-selection area.

Now this is limited to 50 results, but when compiling the NT lists, it would be very useful if this is unlimited. In that case, it would be able to operate with multiple pages, as with the transfer list.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on November 07, 2013, 01:06:10 pm
In Switzerland we don't have problems.  ;D ;D

I wish we have more than 50 for each age range.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 07, 2013, 01:18:47 pm
It is other romantic piece we had because at init I prefer people that are NT learn how to search .
But if you want I can add the number of cyclists in list. Remember it to me, and when I'm at home I will do it
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 07, 2013, 01:28:13 pm
Now this is limited to 50 results, but when compiling the NT lists,
I'm sure you get 100 search results, unless you only get 50 if searching for only 19 year olds (which we wouldn't know either).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 07, 2013, 04:31:30 pm
Oh well, you could be right about that number :)

But whatever the number is, it would be great if it could be set at unlimited.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 08, 2013, 01:29:04 pm
It is other romantic piece we had because at init I prefer people that are NT learn how to search .
But if you want I can add the number of cyclists in list. Remember it to me, and when I'm at home I will do it

This is just a short message to remind you :)

I can see there are currently 368 Dutch U23-cyclists, and it would be a great addition if I could get all of those in 1 search result, (divided on multiple pages like in the Transfer Market).

It makes compiling the NT-lists way easier/quicker, and perhaps more countries will create own lists then, which is a good motivator for managers all around the game, in my experience.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 08, 2013, 01:32:56 pm
I added number of cyclist but as I said I don't want all cyclists as free market ( I said romantic). NT should have knowledge to adjust their searches and find cyclist.
They are experimented managers and I prefer give a bit of "difficulty" to NT, not only an easy copy paste to excels ( I hate excels :D )
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on November 08, 2013, 02:08:50 pm
I added number of cyclist but as I said I don't want all cyclists as free market ( I said romantic). NT should have knowledge to adjust their searches and find cyclist.
They are experimented managers and I prefer give a bit of "difficulty" to NT, not only an easy copy paste to excels ( I hate excels :D )

In Colombia if I search for sprint 80, I get 53 cyclists, far away from the 100 limit  :P

So for me it's just a copy/paste task  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 08, 2013, 02:34:02 pm
Set the limit of shown cyclist to 10! Then even Colombian NT managers have to be smart with how they search ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 08, 2013, 02:36:57 pm
I added number of cyclist but as I said I don't want all cyclists as free market ( I said romantic). NT should have knowledge to adjust their searches and find cyclist.
They are experimented managers and I prefer give a bit of "difficulty" to NT, not only an easy copy paste to excels ( I hate excels :D )

Point is, that I don't use it for the NT-selections, but just for compiling the NT-lists we use in the Dutch forums.

I really think that if more countries generate their lists, it could be a motivation for many teams, new ones as well, cause you can follow your cyclist's progression. For that reason, it could be made easier to compile those lists. Higher motivation = more players who stick to the game, in my opinion.

But if you don't want to implement unlimited search results in NT for romantic reasons, I'll just keep copy-pasting in order to generate the NT lists  :'(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 08, 2013, 05:51:47 pm
I find that most of my time on compiling the u23 NT list is with making it readable for the forum, not with the search.  If you're worried about this, then finding an easy way to transfer the results into this forum would be most useful, because insert table appears to be a fail (unless I'm doing something wrong - which I don't appear to be because other NT managers don't appear to have used the 'insert table' command either).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on November 08, 2013, 09:03:28 pm
Are there any prizes for the winners of all-seasons' general classifications (team, individual and U23) in lower divisions? I know that jerseys are available only for 1a teams and riders but I wonder if there are any financial prizes...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 08, 2013, 09:16:08 pm
There's no special prizes, besides knowing that your cyclist defeated all others in your group.

Edit: Btw, the u23 & u21 jerseys are NT jerseys, not Div1 jerseys.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on November 09, 2013, 12:56:40 am
I find that most of my time on compiling the u23 NT list is with making it readable for the forum, not with the search.  If you're worried about this, then finding an easy way to transfer the results into this forum would be most useful, because insert table appears to be a fail (unless I'm doing something wrong - which I n't appear to be because other NT managers don't appear to have used the 'insert table' command either).

A good way to do this is to fill in the HTML tags in the excel sheet and copypaste afterwards.

I mean to insert some columns in your Excel where needed and paste these tags [°table][°tr][°td][°/td][°/tr][°/table] in those cells. You can easily fill them there so you simply copypaste all cells at the end.

*of course you don't need the ° signs, I've just put them there to be able to display the tags as text...
**if you have problem with the meaning of the tags, here are some hints for you:
[°table] should be at the beginning of the whole table
[°tr] should be at the beginning of each row
[°td] should be at the beginning of each cell in a single row
[°/td] should be at the end of each cell in a single row
[°/tr] should be at the end of each row
[°/table] should be at the end of the whole table

HelloAustralis;D
thisis atable
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 09, 2013, 03:27:46 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/sleep.png)

I often find my riders sleeping in the peloton. In other manager games i would normally bitch slap or fine my players to pay more attention. Unfortunately this is not an option in CFF.
My directeur sportif only has a medium motiviation level so am I just being unlucky?
Or the motivation skill has nothing to do with this phenomena at all?


Got to start serving more coffee in the team bus...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on November 09, 2013, 03:36:16 pm
Just use more efforts, you EP-cheap devil, Solex!  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: EPOglucidos on November 09, 2013, 04:14:43 pm
What about the other picture, the one which a cyclist making the attack, does it mean that u have saved many efforts before, and now u are spending a full??

or does it also means a full+ some luck??
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on November 09, 2013, 06:11:24 pm
My directeur sportif only has a medium motiviation level so am I just being unlucky?
Or the motivation skill has nothing to do with this phenomena at all?
I'm almost sure that your staff only counts towards the GV, so it is the same during the whole race. Consequently nothing to do with the peloton...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on November 09, 2013, 06:49:28 pm
Another question: skill levels.
3-star skill level counts from 40 or 41 upwards? And so on: 4-star from 60 or 61, 5-star from 80 or 81, etc.?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 09, 2013, 07:06:20 pm
Cool idea levsim.

@pablo: Are you talking about draft stars, or something else?
If draft stars, it's
0 - 20 = 1 star
20.01 - 40 = 2 stars
etc

If it's something else, then no.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 09, 2013, 09:09:14 pm
About bonuses I study put a % of total bonuses you can have but maybe it is too many info :D

Bonus in race is very very important. Bonuses are director motivation and team spirit ( this is more important when Team work is high in stage and more with more team work level in your cyclists), in medic and masseur stimulation and if you are in training camp, Training camp bonuses too. In mechanic tuning . Breakdowns are a bonus too because it improves your luck bonus. If normally you can have 0-100 bonus in luck every section, this do you can have 0-200.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on November 09, 2013, 11:23:45 pm
@pablo: Are you talking about draft stars, or something else?
Exactly, draft stars. Thanks for Your answer.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on November 10, 2013, 01:55:44 am
@pablo: Are you talking about draft stars, or something else?
Exactly, draft stars. Thanks for Your answer.

There is no 5 star in draft, max 4 stars. Maximum skill when pulling, scouting or drafting for a rider is 70, accept aggressiveness and teamwork (max 80).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: antoo on November 10, 2013, 09:15:33 pm
Is the rules change in 14th division about training and form ? Because my riders lose their form easily and does not recuperate when they is less than the level that i put in training menu to train rest  (sorry for my english)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 10, 2013, 09:54:31 pm
Same rules, you cannot lose form if you don't change staff ( form skill).
If you lose health maybe you must increase cumulative fatigue skill in medic and masseur.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on November 12, 2013, 09:22:42 am
There is no 5 star in draft, max 4 stars. Maximum skill when pulling, scouting or drafting for a rider is 70, accept aggressiveness and teamwork (max 80).
You are totally right. Anyway, can someone explain to me how "not-draft" stars counts?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 12, 2013, 09:47:56 am
There is no 5 star in draft, max 4 stars. Maximum skill when pulling, scouting or drafting for a rider is 70, accept aggressiveness and teamwork (max 80).
You are totally right. Anyway, can someone explain to me how "not-draft" stars counts?

I assume you mean like (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/7estrellas.jpg) hills?

Basically, the more skill points a cyclist has in a certain area, the more stars he earns.  For hills, the most important stat is hills, followed by downhill, aggression, & stamina (maybe not in that order).  So if a cyclist has 100 hills & 88 in the other stats, he'll have a lot of stars in the hilling department.
Of course, the star ratings are only a general guide, because races have slightly different attributes.

Also see : http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/ayudaeng.php
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on November 12, 2013, 11:26:40 am
Tkank You, Australis.
So if a cyclist has 100 hills & 88 in the other stats, he'll have a lot of stars in the hilling department.
Means how many? Is it easy to recalculate rider's stats for the number of his stars?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 12, 2013, 11:37:52 am
Tkank You, Australis.
So if a cyclist has 100 hills & 88 in the other stats, he'll have a lot of stars in the hilling department.
Means how many? Is it easy to recalculate rider's stats for the number of his stars?

You need a formula calculate: nobody knows the exactly values to use.
Hill riders have 3 different formulas:
hill riders with flat:
Pure hill riders:
climb hillers (i think):

the highest score will be shown as stars.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 12, 2013, 11:57:16 am
Climb hillers get a climbing icon. Hill is just pure and hillflat.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 12, 2013, 12:44:42 pm
Both use % of plain but in pure % is low, in other is medium.( hills icon)
Mountain icon has pure climbers, plain-mountain and mountain-hills.

The most important are stages because we have mountain with final sprint, cobb-hills with sprint, or only changing 5% more in one skill we change results when cyclists have similar values.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 12, 2013, 08:46:55 pm
I will continue ;D
I think someone has the formuli (although it the different limits for bronze silver and gold has just been highered a little).
4 stars = bronze; 7 stars = silver; 10 = gold. (= is more or less, in this case)

This star system is ment as help for newer users. As you get more used at looking at riders this system makes less sense.
fx.
A "medium" hill rider will be able to get bronze in mountain or cobblestone. Eventhough they dont will be able to do good in these type of races.
This rider below has bronze in hill and climbing!  I'm guessing hill -climber and the flat hill discipline ;D

Stamina : 78 Sprint : 8 Climbing : 62
Flat : 69 Cobblestone : 26 Technique : 42
Downhill : 77 Hills : 94 Aggressiveness : 86
Time Trial : 8 Teamwork : 30
 
As time goes and you rider get more specialized you will discover differences in stages and GV! it maybe not be much in GV percentages but he will be significant in races with high competition (NT races and mostly 1st division)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/belleville.jpg)

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/viterbo.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 12, 2013, 09:03:46 pm
Gold icon is 9,5 stars.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dubuisson on November 15, 2013, 10:07:03 pm
Hi, I'm new in the game, and I was wandering where I could get my two free cyclists. Are they the ones on transfermarket for 1€ ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 15, 2013, 10:15:08 pm
Hi, I'm new in the game, and I was wandering where I could get my two free cyclists. Are they the ones on transfermarket for 1€ ?

Until you have played a week you cannot get free riders. In transfers page, you will see a link to free market .
These 2 cyclists are free and if you have patience and a do you ask for help you can get 2 very good cyclists because usually there are cyclists from deleted teams ( inactive and banned) that can have good level in higher divisions.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dubuisson on November 15, 2013, 10:48:37 pm
Thank you !
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 16, 2013, 01:27:09 am
Hi, I'm new in the game, and I was wandering where I could get my two free cyclists. Are they the ones on transfermarket for 1€ ?

Welcome to the game, Dubuisson. Hope you'll have a good time around here! :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Timidus on November 22, 2013, 10:23:15 am
In eg. sprints you'll get a better chance of a good final position if you spare som energy points without losing the front group.

Does this affect the helpers bonus to the captain too?

Bottom line: Does a helper give a bigger boost to the captain, if he (the helper) has used less energy points during the stage?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on November 22, 2013, 12:09:57 pm
In eg. sprints you'll get a better chance of a good final position if you spare som energy points without losing the front group.

Does this affect the helpers bonus to the captain too?

Bottom line: Does a helper give a bigger boost to the captain, if he (the helper) has used less energy points during the stage?

First question yes, 2nd and 3rd questions no.

The bonus of the helper is always the same if he's in the leader group, but if you spare some energy points with the leader in sectors 1 to 4, and you continue on the 1st group then the final result will be better
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Borshow on December 02, 2013, 09:05:33 pm
Hi!
The skill begin to reduce in age 30, or only in age 31?
Ty!
B
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 02, 2013, 09:20:34 pm
Hi!
The skill begin to reduce in age 30, or only in age 31?
Fact sheets
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1363.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on December 02, 2013, 09:22:51 pm
Hi!
The skill begin to reduce in age 30, or only in age 31?
Ty!
B

31
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 02, 2013, 10:08:25 pm
31
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 05, 2013, 03:14:01 pm
Cyclist Names.

I've noticed that so many names given to Australian CFF cyclists are definitely not Australian, and have no links to Australia.  How did these names come about?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on December 05, 2013, 03:17:09 pm
Cyclist Names.

I've noticed that so many names given to Australian CFF cyclists are definitely not Australian, and have no links to Australia.  How did these names come about?

Immigration  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on December 05, 2013, 09:32:50 pm
Cyclist Names.

I've noticed that so many names given to Australian CFF cyclists are definitely not Australian, and have no links to Australia.  How did these names come about?

Immigration  ;D

I have never noticed. Bell, Simpson, Fletcher sound very commonwealth to me.  ;D Licuria most be an old irish / Italian connection.. Happy globalization day!

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120217151232/glee/images/8/86/Rotating_Globe_Gif.gif)

I can still be suprised by some of the danish names. I think it would have been funny to make the danish name pool.

(http://gifling.com/galleries/gifs2/do-you-know-horse-will-be-drinking-cold-drink.gif)
"wait, wait. I have another name.. Dunst that is a good danish surname.. cheers mate."
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 05, 2013, 11:01:37 pm
Immigration  ;D

I have never noticed. Bell, Simpson, Fletcher sound very commonwealth to me.  ;D Licuria most be an old irish / Italian connection.. Happy globalization day!

I can still be suprised by some of the danish names. I think it would have been funny to make the danish name pool.

(http://gifling.com/galleries/gifs2/do-you-know-horse-will-be-drinking-cold-drink.gif)
"wait, wait. I have another name.. Dunst that is a good danish surname.. cheers mate."
We can't beat the English on this (did you know there are English public schools where not a single student speaks English as a first language?).

I guess we notice these things more from our own country lists.  I truly feel sorry for those CFF cyclists with girls names.
Here's a funny fact (well unless your were one of those affected I guess).  Did you know that around 1900, there were a few baby boys called Emma in America?  And people complain about baby names these days.


Ps: yeah yeah, I know, I'm digressing.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on December 06, 2013, 04:23:22 pm

I guess we notice these things more from our own country lists.  I truly feel sorry for those CFF cyclists with girls names.
Here's a funny fact (well unless your were one of those affected I guess).  Did you know that around 1900, there were a few baby boys called Emma in America?  And people complain about baby names these days.

Ps: yeah yeah, I know, I'm digressing.

Sorry to keep the digression going, but if one is so inclined, one can spend many hours on the U.S. Social Security Administration's "Popular Baby Names" website finding all sorts of interesting trends.

For example, "Pink" was one of the 1000 most popular names for boys every year from 1880 (the first year for which data are available) to 1907.  Emma was also one of the top 1000 names for boys during most of this period, as were Edith and Grace.  Flora also made the list in 1880 and 1904.

I do wonder, however, whether some of these old data are not just based on errors in transcribing the baby's sex.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on December 06, 2013, 08:10:56 pm

I guess we notice these things more from our own country lists.  I truly feel sorry for those CFF cyclists with girls names.
Here's a funny fact (well unless your were one of those affected I guess).  Did you know that around 1900, there were a few baby boys called Emma in America?  And people complain about baby names these days.

Ps: yeah yeah, I know, I'm digressing.

Sorry to keep the digression going, but if one is so inclined, one can spend many hours on the U.S. Social Security Administration's "Popular Baby Names" website finding all sorts of interesting trends.

For example, "Pink" was one of the 1000 most popular names for boys every year from 1880 (the first year for which data are available) to 1907.  Emma was also one of the top 1000 names for boys during most of this period, as were Edith and Grace.  Flora also made the list in 1880 and 1904.

I do wonder, however, whether some of these old data are not just based on errors in transcribing the baby's sex.

Also second names, like Michael Emma Smith?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on December 06, 2013, 08:19:36 pm
Haha times are changing..
Younger actors getting aliases (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwWmRiS3G0Q)

Mr Cash - A boyed named Sue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4SurKqVAAI)

Trends are strange. A lot of female celebrities have lately started calling their baby girls with male names!

This thread is about: "Ask anything, right"
Is this in the name of emancipation. Because they have worked/works in a male dominated industry and have been dragged around in the circus?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 06, 2013, 08:20:05 pm
Pink used to be a boys colour (& girls blue), until around 1900.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on December 10, 2013, 11:40:08 am
Let's get back for a while to cyclism and CFF rules ;)
Why there is no difference in points gathered for green jersey classification in all stages of small and great tours? It is always 45 points for the first place and the type of finish (e.g. mountain or flat ending) doesn't matter at all. This usually makes sprinters unable to win this jersey because they are not good enough in e.g. mountain stages and the green jersey "for the best sprinter" goes not to the best sprinter but to the most versatile rider in the race.
In the real world tours (e.g. Tour de France) such difference in points bonuses exists and the name "green jersey for the best sprinter" more fits its name than here.
For now "our" green jersey fits more to the combined classification jersey in the real world than to the best sprinters classification jersey.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 10, 2013, 01:22:04 pm
Let's get back for a while to cyclism and CFF rules ;)
Why there is no difference in points gathered for green jersey classification in all stages of small and great tours? It is always 45 points for the first place and the type of finish (e.g. mountain or flat ending) doesn't matter at all. This usually makes sprinters unable to win this jersey because they are not good enough in e.g. mountain stages and the green jersey "for the best sprinter" goes not to the best sprinter but to the most versatile rider in the race.
In the real world tours (e.g. Tour de France) such difference in points bonuses exists and the name "green jersey for the best sprinter" more fits its name than here.
For now "our" green jersey fits more to the combined classification jersey in the real world than to the best sprinters classification jersey.


We have to adapt this jersey to our rules. Actually sprint gives the order of points in intermediate. Maybe we should change any section but we can't do anything if people fight and in these points people with good sprint are in back positions.
I mantain the spirit of points classement unstead sprinters classement ( as usually has been in all time races). Meijer is not a bad sprinter. Maybe stages 1 and 6 should have sprint in 1st section but maybe it is not enough in a race with a lot of mountain or not plain terrrain.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on December 11, 2013, 02:04:31 pm
but we can't do anything if people fight and in these points people with good sprint are in back positions.
Yes, we can :) We can change points bonuses system into something similar to the real world Grand Tours bonuses. E.g.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Points_classification_in_the_Tour_de_France
More points for flat stages and less points for mountain stages - and then we will have real "sprinter jersey".

And the next question.
In the training section we have these two notes:
Quote
If your cyclist has raced less than 35 races during the season he´ll train always at 100%, even without staff.
(...)
Your trainer is a specialist in Hills
You train this skill at normal speed (100%); you train all other skills at 70% of the normal speed
So, if my rider is under 35 races and trains e.g. sprint - will he train it at 100% or 70% of the normal speed?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on December 11, 2013, 03:00:02 pm
If your trainer speciality is sprint: 100%
If your trainer speciality is a different stat: 70%
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 11, 2013, 03:14:26 pm
And the next question.
In the training section we have these two notes:
Quote
If your cyclist has raced less than 35 races during the season he´ll train always at 100%, even without staff.
(...)
Your trainer is a specialist in Hills
You train this skill at normal speed (100%); you train all other skills at 70% of the normal speed
So, if my rider is under 35 races and trains e.g. sprint - will he train it at 100% or 70% of the normal speed?

I've put an explanation into the "Training" faq.
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.msg76171.html#msg76171
Hope it's understandable.


Btw: I personally agree with you on the green jersey, not for the sprint as such, but rather the fact it doesn't currently offer enough point of difference in most tours to the polka-dot.  But it's also not a significant part of the game, and is only an interesting trinket as far as gameplay goes, so it doesn't personally bother me.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on December 11, 2013, 03:45:51 pm
Well, winning a green or polka jersey is worth 100.000 euro.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on December 14, 2013, 09:41:11 pm
Quick question: if I sign up my rider for a training camp NOW (after stage 84) will he be able to race again in 100 (start of the Vuelta) or in 101 stage?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on December 14, 2013, 10:18:06 pm
Quick question: if I sign up my rider for a training camp NOW (after stage 84) will he be able to race again in 100 (start of the Vuelta) or in 101 stage?

Even if you sign up NOW you will still be on time for the Vuelta. Dont wait any longer though :P The second picture you see when signing up for a training camp is always the first stage you have bonus and can race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on December 14, 2013, 10:23:50 pm
Thanks Sjiz! I wondered if this second picture is the first race with TC bonus or the race after which I will have TC bonus. Now it is clear to me :) So, let's to to the training camp and prepare for the Vuelta!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on December 17, 2013, 12:02:07 pm
How many teams will promote from each 4th division this season?

The 5 best or more?

You don't have to explain if it is more.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 17, 2013, 12:13:27 pm
More. I explain without problems. Divisions must have 75 until the last we are without complete.
If we had all 4th divisions with 75 only 5 would promote, but as we only have around a half, we need promote more in order of positions and points if they have same position.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on December 20, 2013, 10:34:49 am
I was suprised to see so many teams with points in 3rd and 4th division.
Is it possible to lure a number from the Mod with active users the last 14 days?  ;)

You are doing a great job.
Also by implementing the game to smartphones so we know have the chance to spend even more time on this great game.

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/smartphone_zps89d386d3.png)

I do have some problems with the resolution..  ???
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on December 20, 2013, 10:39:32 am
Very nice to have an app. Unfortunately i switched to a windows mobile phone 2 months a go :P Although it may be better. Would not spend any time working with an app.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 20, 2013, 12:43:18 pm
I was suprised to see so many teams with points in 3rd and 4th division.
Is it possible to lure a number from the Mod with active users the last 14 days?  ;)

You are doing a great job.
Also by implementing the game to smartphones so we know have the chance to spend even more time on this great game.

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/smartphone_zps89d386d3.png)

I do have some problems with the resolution..  ???

This season less new people entered in the game, maybe during Giro,Vuelta and Tour is more easy contact with people in forum, chats...
But the active people go up a bit, maybe 10%, at end of season I will check. This game usually people enter daily or every 2-3 days.
I hope with this app that help a bit to people can know Cff, if it is shown in better positions in google play store maybe we get new players.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on December 20, 2013, 12:56:33 pm
I was suprised to see so many teams with points in 3rd and 4th division.
Is it possible to lure a number from the Mod with active users the last 14 days?  ;)

You are doing a great job.
Also by implementing the game to smartphones so we know have the chance to spend even more time on this great game.

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/smartphone_zps89d386d3.png)

I do have some problems with the resolution..  ???

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on December 22, 2013, 03:35:53 pm
How does the team-classification in a tour work?
I suppose it's about the top 3 riders of each team? And is that calculated by the results of each stage or by the positions in the General Classification?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 22, 2013, 03:43:01 pm
Each stage.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 24, 2013, 07:04:24 am
from game achievements thread
I have a new favorite. ;D

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/1podvuelta.png)

Really? Did I add this? Maybe a bug
Well I know the English description is a bug.
Quote
This manager has ben plaved at least one time on the podium in a tour in the 1st division
???
should it be
"This manager has placed on the podium in a tour at least once in the 1st division?"
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 24, 2013, 11:12:40 am
Thanks, fixed.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 31, 2013, 10:57:05 pm
Quote
Now on sundays we will have draft races to get all you more info about young cyclists
I'm curious on this.  My understanding on no races on Sunday is to allow those who wish a clear free day without needing to log onto CFF.  Would this be a bit counter to that?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on January 01, 2014, 10:36:35 am
I'm curious what the reason could be for the underperforming of my timetrialers last night. One of them was amidst  favourites and the other could challenge those. Last year they came in top 5 and top 10. This year I've got the absolute perfect staff (stimulation, one day races, extra training camp  etc.), and I had high expectations yet they end very bad at nr 12 and 14 behind a lot of riders that must have worse gv's (and also don't all have wind bonus).

Despite this bad begin of the new year... ::) best wishes to all!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 01, 2014, 10:45:18 am
Engine is the same, I see a lot of cyclists near.
For this my reasons are luck and that some teams are learning how to improve bonuses influence with a good staff that before they haven't.
Always in Tt Wc we have teams that want better results but not enough space in top5 or top 10.
Happy new year

@Australis Sunday we have Nt races and cup. I think draft is no as important, but I like hear all your opinions about this. At moment nobody said me anything negative and it is better know more. For me easy to quit, but ay moment I don't see most of players want to quit. Talk in suggestions your ideas about it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on January 11, 2014, 04:14:16 pm
Could a mod please unsticky all the topics with 'seizoen 14' in the Dutch NT-forum, and sticky all the topics with 'seizoen 15'?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on January 12, 2014, 02:22:03 am
Done
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on January 12, 2014, 10:43:51 am
Thanks levsim.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on January 17, 2014, 10:31:49 pm
If you win the white jersey in 1a (U23 rider with most points) will it be a jersey that appears on your teampage (like national jerseys, CFF-cup, etc.)?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 17, 2014, 10:35:55 pm
If you win the white jersey in 1a (U23 rider with most points) will it be a jersey that appears on your teampage (like national jerseys, CFF-cup, etc.)?

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=1592
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 17, 2014, 10:36:13 pm
If you win the white jersey in 1a (U23 rider with most points) will it be a jersey that appears on your teampage (like national jerseys, CFF-cup, etc.)?

Yes, you can see past winners.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: zombie on January 20, 2014, 02:42:31 pm
What is the time that a user doesn't have to log in before he becomes inactive? Since today I can get me 2 free riders, but if I can see some good riders becoming free agents soon I might just wait a little longer before I use my free transfers.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 20, 2014, 03:05:02 pm
What is the time that a user doesn't have to log in before he becomes inactive? Since today I can get me 2 free riders, but if I can see some good riders becoming free agents soon I might just wait a little longer before I use my free transfers.

Not fixed time, I do it manually and I never give information to avoid some users get advantage. Every 5-10 days I do it in teams with more than 28-30 days inactive.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: zombie on January 20, 2014, 03:14:13 pm
That information is good enought for me, and now I also know that I better don't go afk for over a month ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 22, 2014, 10:54:40 am
How does that palmares work that you see with the favourites of a race? It should show all wins by that rider?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 22, 2014, 12:14:52 pm
How does that palmares work that you see with the favourites of a race? It should show all wins by that rider?
This page?
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/inscripciones.php#

I suspect that the orange "i" for historical wasn't work properly, although I wonder what it shows in div1.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 22, 2014, 12:32:19 pm
It shows past wins. For some. Thats the strange thing about it. For Cammenieri it shows some of his wins but for instance not his World championship wins, the same with Hank Porte who won Veenendaal - Veenendaal last season. His list doesnt show any wins.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 22, 2014, 03:54:22 pm
Only in 1a we store from other seasons.
We show races with near %.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 22, 2014, 09:46:07 pm
Only in 1a we store from other seasons.
We show races with near %.

Ah the near percentage is the trick then. Explains a lot :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 24, 2014, 07:23:50 pm
Why can't I see the fanclub of some riders? Can it only be seen at riders of division 1 or own division?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 24, 2014, 07:30:31 pm
Why can't I see the fanclub of some riders? Can it only be seen at riders of division 1 or own division?

Only Supporters teams has fan clubs in their cyclists
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on January 27, 2014, 07:37:39 am
I know that question below was explained in all FAQ's, Help sections, etc. but I want to make myself sure (because the next CFF-CUP round is a time trial):
 - A time trial stage. Is there no need to give riders ANY tactics (and left them all on "watcher" or "calm" mode)?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 27, 2014, 07:43:10 am
You can put calm, watcher or full, in all Time Trial races there are no tactic, and for this is the same calm than full.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 28, 2014, 09:27:03 am
You know how only 1 domestique can help his leader in any section.  My question is, do all domestiques suffer the performance penalty, or just the one who's helping the team leader?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 28, 2014, 03:12:15 pm
You know how only 1 domestique can help his leader in any section.  My question is, do all domestiques suffer the performance penalty, or just the one who's helping the team leader?
Yes all domestics will suffer on all 5 sections eventhough there aren't in the same group.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 28, 2014, 06:42:55 pm
Cool, that's two questions answered in one.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on February 01, 2014, 01:58:45 pm
eventhough there aren't in the same group.
Does it literally mean that all domestiques will suffer no matter if they are in the same group with leader or in the other group e.g. 10 minutes behind him?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on February 01, 2014, 03:16:40 pm
Yep, that's what it means  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on February 16, 2014, 08:59:45 pm
For me it's not possible to join chat anymore, some more with this problem? What has changed?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on February 16, 2014, 09:10:31 pm
I've got a question regarding the CFF-records.

Guillian Escoubes won the 4th stage of this season's Tour de France. He did so with the speed of 42.89 km/h. The track record however, remains with Michael Troost (42.24 km/h).

Why didn't the record switch to Escoubes?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 16, 2014, 09:27:15 pm
Good question.

In races we don't calculate speed or time, we get a total value as example 39484,343 . This value is not a time in hours, min , seconds. We do that every x value is a second of difference with the 1st.
In past Cff an user gives me an idea making a formulation for getting km/h. According the % of every skill and the skill that the winner has we get an km/h value.
Escoubes has the best value in their skills for this stage but Troost get best Cff value ( 39484,343 that I said before) due to tactic, bonus, race bonus or due to groups value. The value of Escoubes was lower and for this he don't get Cff record.
I know it can confuse people but for me record must be for real value not a formulation that only is a visual effect.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on February 16, 2014, 09:49:41 pm
For me it's not possible to join chat anymore, some more with this problem? What has changed?
Mexi doesn't want you there anymore.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: EPOglucidos on February 16, 2014, 09:59:12 pm
For me it's not possible to join chat anymore, some more with this problem? What has changed?

I´ve just read in spanish forum the "chat comapny" is having some trouble
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on February 16, 2014, 10:04:07 pm
Good question.

In races we don't calculate speed or time, we get a total value as example 39484,343 . This value is not a time in hours, min , seconds. We do that every x value is a second of difference with the 1st.
In past Cff an user gives me an idea making a formulation for getting km/h. According the % of every skill and the skill that the winner has we get an km/h value.
Escoubes has the best value in their skills for this stage but Troost get best Cff value ( 39484,343 that I said before) due to tactic, bonus, race bonus or due to groups value. The value of Escoubes was lower and for this he don't get Cff record.
I know it can confuse people but for me record must be for real value not a formulation that only is a visual effect.

Allright, fair enough. Thanks for the explanation  :)

I always assumed that the 'km/h' was kind of a translation of the Cff Value.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on February 16, 2014, 10:24:20 pm
For me it's not possible to join chat anymore, some more with this problem? What has changed?
Mexi doesn't want you there anymore.

Pff, the dutchies already are outnumbered..Spanish cartel!  ::)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on March 06, 2014, 07:21:55 am
What does this achievement distinction mean?
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/tormentas.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 06, 2014, 07:24:04 am
Sorry, I hope translations will be finished soon.

Yesterday, 30 new distinctions were added .

This icon is that you have a "Storm" cyclist ( wind and rain bonus).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on March 06, 2014, 01:52:22 pm
Sounds nice :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: 29Dukes on March 06, 2014, 09:08:18 pm
I have some questions about the tax that you get at the end of the season:

First: Do the bonus money for your points and division get added on before or after the tax is calculated?

Second: Is the bonus for division based on the division you will be entering next season or the one you were in during the just-completed season?

Basically, I'm right on the border between the $10m-$25m tax bracket and the $25m-$50m tax bracket pending some transfers, the information above and the last few race results, and I need to know how much I'll need to invest to get back below $25m for when the tax takes effect since the difference between the 2 tax brackets is more than $1m even if you are right on the border between the 2.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 06, 2014, 09:46:04 pm
1st. Tax is before points and division money.

2nd Bonus money is based in your new division

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 07, 2014, 03:11:51 am
Can these achievements really have the same number of managers having achieved them? (162)

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima2.png)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima1.png)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/lluviaverano.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 07, 2014, 07:39:37 am
Can these achievements really have the same number of managers having achieved them? (162)

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima2.png)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima1.png)
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/lluviaverano.png)

I think it is a bug, I will check it
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 07, 2014, 08:02:07 am
Now it should be Ok, thanks Aurora
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 07, 2014, 08:19:28 am
 :'( Now I don't have (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima2.png) or (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima1.png).  Oh well, I guess I have to earn them  :)

Anyway; I haven't noticed a "winter rain" cyclist achievement.

Would these be better renamed to:
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima2.png) Thunderstorm rider
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/malclima1.png) Winter storm rider
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on March 10, 2014, 01:07:36 pm
How often the Achievement section is updated and new achievements are added?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 10, 2014, 01:30:30 pm

Anyway; I haven't noticed a "winter rain" cyclist achievement.


I have a "icey rain (hail)"-cyclist myself too, and I think it's the only weather combo that doesn't earn an achievement. Maybe a good suggestion to add this one next time?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 10, 2014, 02:01:27 pm

Anyway; I haven't noticed a "winter rain" cyclist achievement.


I have a "icey rain (hail)"-cyclist myself too, and I think it's the only weather combo that doesn't earn an achievement. Maybe a good suggestion to add this one next time?

Yes, I forgot it, next time it will be added
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 10, 2014, 02:08:50 pm
Anyway; I haven't noticed a "winter rain" cyclist achievement.
I have a "icey rain (hail)"-cyclist myself too.
I don't have the cyclist :(
Btw, (hail) wouldn't work, because you get hail from summer storms as well, after 30c days.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 10, 2014, 11:19:14 pm

Anyway; I haven't noticed a "winter rain" cyclist achievement.


I have a "icey rain (hail)"-cyclist myself too, and I think it's the only weather combo that doesn't earn an achievement. Maybe a good suggestion to add this one next time?

Yes, I forgot it, next time it will be added

Great  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on March 11, 2014, 07:53:52 am
I'll try to ask in other way: is this achievement (and similar ones):

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/jovengran.png)

available only for 1st Division teams?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 11, 2014, 07:57:07 am
It is not the same win a white shirt in 1a than in 4th for this these achievements are for 1st division.

I don't add other for 2nd or 3rd because teams in upper divisions can't win these distinctions and it is not an option that they descent to get it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on March 11, 2014, 08:25:04 am
I understand. Thanks for Your answer!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 15, 2014, 03:44:22 am
My masseur is gone.
I didnt fire him. Was he 65? How can I know? Didnt receive a cff-message about that.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 15, 2014, 07:19:18 am
I didn't add message, a future update to do.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 15, 2014, 08:20:09 pm
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/digne.jpg)

I have been dying to ask about this question for as long as I can remember or played CFF.
Under the profile surface(mountain, plain and downhill). You ca see all the brown.

Is it a mirage or some cardboard?

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/186/6/a/torn_cardboard_stock_by_wforwumbo-d562ufk.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 15, 2014, 09:07:17 pm
LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 15, 2014, 11:49:51 pm
What is wrong with the Australian NT thread?
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1387.msg150054.html#new

Every time I attempt to see it, I get a white screen (see attachment).  There's essentially the same content as the Spanish thread, only with a bit more commentary (which shouldn't have stuffed it up).
PS: I'm only getting this some of the time (mainly on first attempt).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 17, 2014, 12:34:42 pm
What is wrong with the Australian NT thread?
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1387.msg150054.html#new

Every time I attempt to see it, I get a white screen (see attachment).  There's essentially the same content as the Spanish thread, only with a bit more commentary (which shouldn't have stuffed it up).
PS: I'm only getting this some of the time (mainly on first attempt).

It would appear as if a thread's page won't load correctly if it's too long.  Just a caution for others to remember.
(note: this is a page of 15 posts)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 24, 2014, 08:31:37 pm
How does weather work? If a rider has a rain icon, does this give him a negative bonus/penalty when the weather is hot? Or can weather icons only give a positive bonus?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 24, 2014, 08:36:39 pm
Only positive bonus.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 25, 2014, 07:18:10 pm
When does a rider get this (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/incidencias/attack.png) picture?

I dont see any logic in it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 25, 2014, 07:46:57 pm
It is a cyclist with helper bonus and luck bonus high
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 25, 2014, 07:55:04 pm
What does 'luck bonus high' do except giving a picture? I dont see it in the help file, so it isnt involved in the GV calculation, I quess?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 25, 2014, 08:22:25 pm
All sections have a luck bonus. From 0 to 100 as example. 0-2% you will see an icon with tools , with more than 80-90% ( I don't remember) you see the icon if you have helper. maybe you have 80% and you have icon and other with 79%has no icon, but effect is near the same.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 25, 2014, 08:40:16 pm
All sections have a luck bonus. From 0 to 100 as example. 0-2% you will see an icon with tools , with more than 80-90% ( I don't remember) you see the icon if you have helper. maybe you have 80% and you have icon and other with 79%has no icon, but effect is near the same.

Hmm, must be something broken in the engine then. Why dont my cyclist get this bonus everytime? I thought you fixed that :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 25, 2014, 10:07:01 pm
Maybe you don't have enough helper level too :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: EPOglucidos on March 26, 2014, 04:41:18 pm
It is a cyclist with helper bonus and luck bonus high

It also means effort 5(full),is not it??
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 26, 2014, 04:44:43 pm
Yes, too.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 27, 2014, 07:10:27 pm
is it just me, or is the site very very slow the last time after the 1900h race?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: brochard on March 27, 2014, 07:13:08 pm
is it just me, or is the site very very slow the last time after the 1900h race?

Yep. same for me, but only for 10-15 minutes :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 27, 2014, 07:24:20 pm
Lots of people logging on just after the races I presume, resulting in peak server demand.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 27, 2014, 07:31:17 pm
Lots of people logging on just after the races I presume, resulting in peak server demand.

Yes, ofcourse. But it is worse than before. So what has been changed recently?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 27, 2014, 08:16:40 pm
Always is slow after races. I updated internally a lot during last 2 months but server has their limits for a non -professional game and yesterday as example was the day with more visits since Cff started. During past season visits increased around 10% and during this season we have increased around 5-7% more.

I will continue improving the game but most of features we have added during seasons did extra-load in request in database too.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: stevwonder on March 27, 2014, 11:30:22 pm
cant write in for races anymore. Tried different browsers, but it doesn't work :-(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 27, 2014, 11:34:34 pm
cant write in for races anymore. Tried different browsers, but it doesn't work :-(

Rare, since when?
Did you try different cyclists?
If cyclists are in training camp you cannot sign up.

Send me information please
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 29, 2014, 06:06:27 am
What happens if you have somebody in a tour, and you sell him in the middle of it?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 29, 2014, 07:07:03 am
Good question if the rider is the nr 1 in that tour. I think the rider will stay nr 1 in the classification with a new team, so the general classification points will go to the new team.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 29, 2014, 08:16:10 am
What happens if you have somebody in a tour, and you sell him in the middle of it?

The cyclist will be out of the Tour.
He go to the new team and he cannot continue in the team.
The old team mantain points but the cyclist lost all their individual points.

About training camp, when you sign up a cyclist the cyclist always have their training camp without using, you always can sign up for an upcoming training camp.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on March 29, 2014, 05:27:21 pm
Good question if the rider is the nr 1 in that tour. I think the rider will stay nr 1 in the classification with a new team, so the general classification points will go to the new team.
This would result in trading for points, especially in higher divisions.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: iamunplugged on April 01, 2014, 06:47:42 pm
What happens if you run out of money during the season? I know I will not be able to participate in races but other than that what other negatives can I expect.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 01, 2014, 06:53:48 pm
You can participate in races without problem.

You cannot sign up cyclists, promote , send international scout or send to training camps.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 04, 2014, 09:28:25 pm
Has the sponsors been removed for classsement ranking in game?
I haven't seen any for maaaany seasons or is my Marketing Manager Tommy Hamre (NOR) just lazy like the rest of TeamSolex....
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 04, 2014, 09:29:14 pm
No, the same process since the init :(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 04, 2014, 09:42:00 pm
lazy bastard!!! I knew he is spending to much time in cantine playing ping pong!!  ???

What is this? It cant even cover the expenses for table tennis balls..
8   Berner Rundfart (52)      Euro 88517  >:(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 04, 2014, 09:44:24 pm
An expensive table  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 04, 2014, 10:15:55 pm
He is from Norge and has no relation to money...
He has also fabbled to fill the swimming pool with Red Bull and go swim in it.
It's an expense but he thinks it has a huge branding effect. Like a "Backstroking Felix Baumgartner"  :'(

with 1000 of viewers on red(bull)tube and a new slogan "Solex testing the limits!"  :-\
Maybe i should upgrade (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/iconoscff/fire1.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 10, 2014, 11:28:15 pm
We had a small big discussion a while back on cobble-hill races on the dutch section on this forum.
It was about the importence of cobble and hill but for me I fail to see the logic behind it, not saying that I'm right though. :P

Now lets take this clear example:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/lincoln.jpg)

I see 5 sections of cobble and 5 sections hill so to my logic cobble and hill should be equal importend.
Most, if not everyone, sees a cobble race with hills.
Now why exactly is cobble more importend, because the hills are red and red cathes they eye?
Now, from hard to easy, climbing, hill, cobble, flat, downhill.
This supports my thinking and if anything hill would be slightly more importend since hill is slightly harder.
It's not pure hill (blue) just because the hills are paved with cobble instead of asphalt but it's still hills.

So help me out here and tell me why it's cobble with hill instead of hill with cobble.
I don't need the percentages I just need to know the logic why cobble is more importend.

Also, if cobble is more importend and also the underground on wich energypoints are based, doesn't that make cobble a way to importend
stat to a cobble hiller in this stage/race.

If it's the rule because it's how the game works then that would be logic  enough ;) but I can't sleep if it isn't logical to me.  ;D
Not trying to change anything but cobble-hill is still a big mystery to me and I want to see the light.



Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 11, 2014, 12:20:42 am
Can I add to this?
I can't see how flats could have any importance in this stage either.

On the cobbles-hills, I'm guessing that a cobbled road has a more detrimental impact on speed than a hill; doubly so when you're already at a slower than maximum speed (see rule 101 of driving on corrugated roads - either drive at full speed, or drive slow).  That's only a guess though.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: EPOglucidos on April 11, 2014, 10:42:37 am
I´m not 100% sure but:

The formula for the engine is: (in spanish)

La formula es ( VAlor general : % de cada habilidad más experiencia, bonus forma y salud, bonus técnicos, bonus material) + Esfuerzo en el tramo ( se tiene en cuenta tu nivel en la habilidad principal del tramo, es decír el color, el resto de habilidades no cuentan aquí)+ Bonus gregario ( si eres lider lo tienes, si eres libre no, y si eres gregario tienes un valor negativo aquí) + Energia ( esfuerzos que te quedan por gastar; a menos hayas gastado más energía tienes.

So yes, the colour is very important, plus last section is red, what makes it more important.

About the flat, I don not have the answer, we could think between the hills are a bit of flat, but it is just a guess.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: EPOglucidos on April 11, 2014, 11:42:40 am
One more thing, for example in this race:

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/flandes.jpg)

is more important hills than cobbles
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 11, 2014, 07:03:58 pm
I know about color but red or blue hills are still hills.  ;)
The FAQ speaks of cobble races and hill races but not cobble hill.
So if it says more red zones and closer to the end make it more importend it makes sence for flat cobble races.
It says the same with hill but not about the color but the amount of hills that are either 3e or 4e.
If you look at the stage profile from my previous post, the last sector is red and it has 12 hills, also close to the finish.
But I think I understand, color first to decide wich is the primary skill, only exception being green wich is sprint and not flat.
So in Lincoln GP is primary cobble and secondary is hill based on the color rule.
So the influence of [secondary skil] hill in Lincoln can have a max of 25% based on the hill rules. [many and closer to the end etc.]
I think someone metioned the color in the Dutch forum to but it didn't sound to convincing. :P

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on April 11, 2014, 07:11:47 pm
This is my view: in GV hills and cobble are equal.  Practically you have the same % for both. What makes cobble more important is the section bonus which depends on the colour.

I think, in these cases secondary skill could be more than 25% in GV. I would say around 30 for both.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 11, 2014, 08:07:53 pm
Both values are the same or in a range 0-4%.

Sections are red it gives more influence to cobbles (  in effort in every section only cobbles are used but we talk about Global value and %).

Hills aren't very hard, only 4th but  there are a lot of them.

Although I don't have a engine that put automatically % in races, these values where added 5-6 years ago and sure that if I had to put them 3 times, we put different values, but ranges will be near because I have these rules.

More red sections, more % in cobblestones.
More hills and more harder more % in hills
If cobbles or hills are near of the finish line more value to this skill.
More cobbles more technique influence ( max 10%), more hills more agg ( max 10%)
More downhill if there are more hills and near to the end. ( Tec has influence in the downhill, around a half of downhill value in pure hills).
More km and more cobb and hills more resistance ( around 10-15%).
Plain always has value because always there are plain in races, more plain more %, near to the finish more %.
Teamwork, around 2-4%, more green sections more value , if you have 4-5 plain sections , 10% is max value. The rule is this because a team can control better the group in plain sections. Team group always has minimum 2-3% unless Time Trial.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 11, 2014, 08:27:48 pm
Ah ok so if I understand right my ehm logic is right, cobble paved hills are still hills but they only loose importence due to the fact that cobble comes into the equation.
The scale may tip in importance on how many red zones v.s. amount of hills and for both the closer to the finish the more importend.
It's clear to me know, thanks guys!  :)

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 12, 2014, 03:04:32 pm
Question about NT elections (curious more than anything).

Has anybody ever received zero votes?
Is this even possible, or does a manager automatically vote for himself when he nominates?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 13, 2014, 06:31:18 am
Question about NT elections (curious more than anything).

Has anybody ever received zero votes?
Is this even possible, or does a manager automatically vote for himself when he nominates?

Yes, there are people that received 0 votes.
When they nominates they didn't receive any automatic vote.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 16, 2014, 08:40:19 am
I think I found a very small bug  :-*

This morning two of my riders that raced first stage of Dauphine gained 1 point in experience (dark green). I checked last night after 01, and noone popped then. One of them didn't race Berner Rundfart, so he couldn't have gained the EXP before this mornings cobble stage.

Regardless, with my supporter option I can see the training progress, and the page states that both riders gained the EXP at 01:00, which for one of them is impossible (and for the other didn't show after the 01:00 update).

I think there's a minor bug with the EXP pop visual to supporters, and granted - it's not an important one. Just thought I'd point it out  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 21, 2014, 08:20:02 pm
I think I found a very small bug  :-*


Did you discover something, Osca?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 21, 2014, 08:28:51 pm
I didn't check.
Experience is gaigned after every race and the system is made for training hours.

The system for supporters save your experience at 01.00 and 07.00 before training, the experience is given after every race or tour in the moment of the race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 22, 2014, 08:20:32 am
OK, that explains it - thx  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 28, 2014, 04:41:33 am
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/albertville.jpg)

In the previous stage, section 1 green jersey points in my division were
Quote
Name   Team   Points   
Bálint Somogyi   Aurora_Australis   20
Craig Lawson   Aurora_Australis   17
Abel Pedro   Animatoca   15
Joao Prazeres   Animatoca   13
Francis Smets   ribosoma78   11

And section 1 polkadot (mountain) jersey points were
Quote
Name   Team   Points   
Taras Polukhin   birramoretti   10   1st category
Francis Smets   ribosoma78   8
Bálint Somogyi   Aurora_Australis   6
Joao Prazeres   Animatoca   4
Abel Pedro   Animatoca   2

Question:  Why aren't the top 5 the same for both given that they're both for section 1?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 28, 2014, 07:56:01 am
Because there is a different being GV used for the intermediate sprint. More sprint in there.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 28, 2014, 02:30:14 pm
How many Dutch first and last names are in the database? Feels like there should be a bit more names (and bit more normal ones not like DeVosVanSteenwijk) :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 28, 2014, 05:05:10 pm

I can't remember if it has been explained before. But how is the Team overall rank in a Tour calculated?
Why is my team not #1 overall in div. 2.b?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 28, 2014, 07:40:51 pm
First 3 cyclists in every stage.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on April 28, 2014, 09:02:54 pm
How many Dutch first and last names are in the database? Feels like there should be a bit more names (and bit more normal ones not like DeVosVanSteenwijk) :P

Hey!  >:( Don't talk about sweet Aaron that way!  ;D

There's a lot of unusual Danish names as well (Lamp, Lofti-Høgni and Lasskrogen just to name some with L), and it kinda makes it more fun I think.

At least you have Keldermans, Mollemas, Terpstras and Hoogerlands - we don't even have a Fuglsang.... :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 28, 2014, 09:48:17 pm
First 3 cyclists in every stage.
;D okay. Are there any users who are capable to analyze this out during;- or before a Tour?
I know I'm a noob. But is this not more luck than tactical/analyzing expertise..  :P

@ kazi
I tried to find out if Lofti-Høgni is icelandic or "faroese" could found out...  ???
I tried to google pic and see what a Lofti-Høgni looked like ... All I could see was CFF FTW! (https://www.google.dk/search?q=lofti+h%C3%B8gni&client=firefox-a&hs=v5s&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:da:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=Oq5eU7XFKcft4gTyo4CQDg&ved=0CEcQsAQ4FA&biw=1280&bih=920#imgdii=_)

If you miss Fuglsang you can drink one while CFF'ing instead..
(http://www.canmuseum.com/Staging/Images/Cans/27152L.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 28, 2014, 09:53:29 pm
There's a lot of unusual Danish names as well (Lamp, Lofti-Høgni and Lasskrogen just to name some with L),
You want unusual names, there's several names on Australia's list which doesn't even exist in this country.  You can't beat that for rarity.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on April 29, 2014, 12:48:33 am
First 3 cyclists in every stage.
;D okay. Are there any users who are capable to analyze this out during;- or before a Tour?
I know I'm a noob. But is this not more luck than tactical/analyzing expertise..  :P
:o :o I thought, it's simply the cumulated result of the best 3 riders in each team. I think that would make more sense...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 29, 2014, 05:02:16 am
No.  The first three cyclists for every stage is how the real TdF does it too.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 29, 2014, 06:51:48 am
No.  The first three cyclists for every stage is how the real TdF does it too.

Yes, as you say, all team classements in cycling always works with first 3 cyclists in every stage.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on May 01, 2014, 09:06:18 pm
We give green jersey points also in a different way. :P but still ok, however I agree with Solex.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on May 01, 2014, 09:33:56 pm
First 3 cyclists in every stage.
;D okay. Are there any users who are capable to analyze this out during;- or before a Tour?
I know I'm a noob. But is this not more luck than tactical/analyzing expertise..  :P

Don't know if I understand you right but your best bet is 3 GC-riders and 2 sprinters in the TDF.
I think it works best for the other 3 big tours also.
Sprinters won't loose time in sprint-stages and the 3 GC-riders for the mountain[/hill] stages.
TDF should be the most simple, it's either sprint or climbing with a TT-stage and a hill stage.
You might wanna bring a hiller with sprint to better your chances.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 05, 2014, 06:30:07 pm
Hi Everybody

First Post!
I like to ask many questions and I am afraid my mentor might get irritated with me haha   :)

The question I have, is regarding training aggressiveness.
The one piece of information states that it is trained by 10% of the base training rate if you train Hill or Sprint.
A few other posts said something like you get 1 point for every 10 points in either Hill or Sprint training, but that it decreases by 1 for every 20 points you get in Stamina, Climbing and Flat I think.

Now I want to know what the base training rate is, is this 0.25 (before your skill makes this less) or is the base training rate based on the current skill level of Hill and Sprint.

I hope the base training rate is 0.25 , else I have a 24yr old cyclist high-ish (70+)in Sprint and Hill, and it will take forever to get his agression up (sub 20).
If the base training rate is based on current level of Hill/Sprint skill then it means I can only improve my aggression by +- 6 points at which point Sprint and Hill is both at 100.

Thanks for reading  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on May 05, 2014, 06:53:32 pm
It is 10% of the speed with which you train hills or sprint. So it will take an eternity im afraid. The 1 point for every 10 points of hill or sprint is accurate. Which means for training your cyclist from 70 to 100 in sprint you will get a grand total of 3 agressiveness.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 05, 2014, 07:06:04 pm
Hi, thanks Sjiz for that confirmation.
Seems like I am Screwed for this cyclist when it comes to hills or sprinting.

But first, here are things which prevents a younger cyclist from being selected.

Disqualifiers:
Inactive: Besides being 22, Gatson is in an inactive team, so this is an automatically non-inclusion.
Not leaders: The 21 year olds, Friend & Green.  Looking at these two hillers, neither are likely to be team leaders next season, and will probably be domestiques to 20 year old Furey.  So they weren’t selected.
Bad training: Harris was first on the list for 20 year olds.  Unfortunately, I could tell instantly that he isn’t being trained correctly, so he was automatically out of consideration.
Training???: 20 year old Jackson was considered.  But I can’t even work out what training he’s subject to, so I couldn’t select him.
Bad Aggression: I forgot.  There was also a cyclist who had aggression of 17 (?).  In hillers (& sprinters), this is a death sentence.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 05, 2014, 07:52:35 pm
Hi.

I've been wondering about the International Scout.
Does it make sense to sent it to your own country? (That option is in the drop down menu).
This would make sense if the International Scout find better cyclist on average than normal recruitment.

Regards, Dirk
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 05, 2014, 08:22:28 pm
Hi.

I've been wondering about the International Scout.
Does it make sense to sent it to your own country? (That option is in the drop down menu).
This would make sense if the International Scout find better cyclist on average than normal recruitment.

Regards, Dirk

Same options than normal recruitment.
It costs double due to more options with 2 recruitments to get a good cyclist and that you can choose their nationality.
If you have money you can try but if not, with normal recruitments is enough.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on May 05, 2014, 08:28:11 pm
Hi Dirk,

it makes sence since some might want to build a one nationality team.
This way you can scout 3 talents per day instead of 2 but like osca said it's more expensive.
If the international scout would scout better talents there wouldn't be much or much less use for the regular scout.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 05, 2014, 08:40:59 pm
Thank you. I understand the points you are making.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 05, 2014, 09:56:40 pm
Hi.

I've been wondering about the International Scout.
Does it make sense to sent it to your own country? (That option is in the drop down menu).
This would make sense if the International Scout find better cyclist on average than normal recruitment.
Regards, Dirk
It also makes sense to send it to your own CFF country if your country is one of the smaller countries in CFF (Australia, Ukraine, Latvia, Russia, Estonia, and maybe Norway).  This is simply because your cyclist has better chance to be selected in NT races (it doesn't make a significant difference, but it's also cool to have your cyclist selected).  If you're in a larger CFF nation (Spain, Netherlands, Italy, and maybe Portugal), then it could be worthwhile sending your international scout to a smaller CFF nation.  But this is minor differences.

When I was training my own u23 talents, I used the international scout simply for more opportunities to find good cyclists.  If you're going down the u23 training road, you want to give yourself the best opportunities possible.  The cost isn't that prohibitive.

On aggression, it pays to remember that a 19 year old will also gain about 9 aggression with the u23 bonus.  Of course this is virtually useless if the sprinter or hiller has 3 or 17 aggression (which I'm seeing people training), but if aggression is in the mid-ranges, then this makes a difference.

You should know that my quoted u23 Aussie team selection criteria only applies to my selections.  I want players to have cyclists which will be useful for their team's progression, not just for the u23 NT team.


Now I better get ready for work :(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 06, 2014, 05:57:53 pm
Hi

I have been trying to get a domestique to help a leader in some of my races.
They have been in the same section before and I guess it helped.
However, I have seen in the races that hand icon indicating a domestique is helping leader nicely for other teams.

How does this icon appear? Must the domestique be ahead of leader for this to trigger?
And also, does the teamwork value of the domestique have any effect on his ability to help leader?

D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 06, 2014, 06:42:41 pm
If helper are in same group than leader your lider always get a bonus in next section.

To show icon bonus must have a minimum value ( more than 75-80% maximum bonus as example), with 50-70 you have a good bonus but you don't see icon.
Higger global value for the helper in the stage, higher bonus, no other skills or efforts to improve bonus, only be in same group and you have the bonus.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 06, 2014, 07:18:56 pm
Thanks Osca

You should put a "like" button on the forum to "like" posts from people ;)
They do that on one of my favourite forums, then it list up to 3 people liking and and number of likes the post have.

D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on May 07, 2014, 12:50:57 pm
By the way Dirk

teamwork skill has nothing to do with being a good helper.
That skill is only used for calculating the GV for a stage.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on May 14, 2014, 04:29:30 pm
Please, remind me what is the rule in creating names and surnames of the young riders in DRAFT section?
Why am I asking? Funny thing - a few days ago, searching through the draft results I have found a German rider named Krzysztof Hermann. What is funny here? Well, "Krzysztof" is not a German name (in German it would be Christoph or Christof) - it is POLISH name :) When there is still no Polish nationality in CFF I'll pay every price to have him in my team, no matter what his skills are - he will be someone like football player Lukas Podolski or Miroslav Klose to me :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 14, 2014, 08:05:33 pm
Please, remind me what is the rule in creating names and surnames of the young riders in DRAFT section?
Why am I asking? Funny thing - a few days ago, searching through the draft results I have found a German rider named Krzysztof Hermann. What is funny here? Well, "Krzysztof" is not a German name (in German it would be Christoph or Christof) - it is POLISH name :) When there is still no Polish nationality in CFF I'll pay every price to have him in my team, no matter what his skills are - he will be someone like football player Lukas Podolski or Miroslav Klose to me :)

In some countries users or mod send me a names and surname lists, in others some users search in most used names and surnames in this country.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on May 14, 2014, 10:04:51 pm
Would it be hard to enter a new country in CFF?
Pablo talks about Poland wich is a big comming country in a lot of sports and especialy cycling.
It could be good for the user base to extend to Poland if that is possible ofcourse.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 14, 2014, 10:11:57 pm
Would it be hard to enter a new country in CFF?
Pablo talks about Poland wich is a big comming country in a lot of sports and especialy cycling.
It could be good for the user base to extend to Poland if that is possible ofcourse.
from suggestions
giving new nationalities perhaps would be a good idea Polish
When we have a list with a minimum of 15-20 polish daily users we can add your country without problem .
Hungary was a nation added this way.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 14, 2014, 10:42:08 pm
And actually only a few hungarian people plays :( for this it is better because I have to update the game a lot ( due to old Cff systems, hehe)for a new country that they play a good number of users
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on May 14, 2014, 10:57:23 pm
tx Australis, I seemed to have missed that. ;)

@osca, didn't know that it was "easy" to add a country.
tbh I don't know if it's smarter to wait for enough player from that country or to get more Polish players because of having Poland as a country.
Just thinking out loud but isn't it an option to add the country but only add it to the NT when there is a certain number of players that have Poland as their teams nationality?
I'm not sure if I would have played cff if my country wasn't an option, not that it mathers to much to enjoy the game. ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 14, 2014, 11:04:24 pm
I know but have countries with 3-4 players is not funny, and as game is made in Spain some people go to countries without people because play in NT only 8-10 countries and with only 4-5 big countries is not funny. Have 40 NT with low number of users is not my dream.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on May 15, 2014, 11:20:51 am
If I understand well - we want 20-30 Polish users or 20-30 users playing Polish nationality? I think the second option would be more possible - there are some good Polish riders in foreign WT teams (e.g. Kwiatkowski, Majka, Niemiec, Huzarski or Szmyd) and players from these countries may want to try playing Polish nationality...
Besides, I could make a little promo e.g. on very popular Polish Facebook site devoted to cycling races on Eurosport (and not only) after Polish nationality is added to CFF - maybe it will encourage some new users to CFF?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 15, 2014, 04:36:08 pm
Yes, if they play in other countries, you can do a list with all that are polish and when we create new nation in Cff we change their team nationality.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on May 16, 2014, 07:17:23 am
zzzZZZZzzZzz  :-\   (at least since 0630h)


CYCLING FOR FUN IS UPDATING , TRY AGAIN IN A FEW MINUTES
EL JUEGO SE ESTÁ ACTUALIZANDO, PRUEBA DE NUEVO DENTRO DE UNOS MINUTOS
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: zombie on May 16, 2014, 07:34:43 am
First time l can't check the race results before work. Lets hope all is okay
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 16, 2014, 01:27:56 pm
I thought players weren't able to sign up between the 100th race and the end of season.  Has this changed?

Quote
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=13536
Playing since 16/05/2014
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 16, 2014, 03:56:46 pm
Now, as actually they are in divisions with old players they can compete and learn about Cff.
Past years we had divisions empty and players with only a few races could go to 3rd division.
Actually all these players don't go to 3rd division, they learn and when we delete inactive and start new season they know more about Cff to play next year.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on May 17, 2014, 11:20:33 am
Osca, it's not possible to upload a jersey with the same name, is it easy to fix that it overwrites the excisting file on the server?
I can simply rename the file and upload it but I don't want to take up all your space on the server. :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on May 17, 2014, 11:42:56 am
Osca, it's not possible to upload a jersey with the same name, is it easy to fix that it overwrites the excisting file on the server?
I can simply rename the file and upload it but I don't want to take up all your space on the server. :P
Are you sure it doesn't change. I think you can't see it because the old file is stored in the cache!
The same "problem" on the forum when you use images.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on May 17, 2014, 11:51:36 am
Osca, it's not possible to upload a jersey with the same name, is it easy to fix that it overwrites the excisting file on the server?
I can simply rename the file and upload it but I don't want to take up all your space on the server. :P
Are you sure it doesn't change. I think you can't see it because the old file is stored in the cache!
The same "problem" on the forum when you use images.

Nope, if you upload a file with the same name it says the file allready excists.
Renaming the file works and it shows the new picture.

Quote
Archivos a subir

Archivo 1: (soniccyclingC.jpg)ya existe
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 17, 2014, 04:51:16 pm
Rename without problems ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 18, 2014, 02:44:10 am
Now, as actually they are in divisions with old players they can compete and learn about Cff.
Past years we had divisions empty and players with only a few races could go to 3rd division.
Actually all these players don't go to 3rd division, they learn and when we delete inactive and start new season they know more about Cff to play next year.
That's good.

I do have one question though.  Have you changed how end of season works with those staying in div4?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on May 21, 2014, 07:49:05 pm
Osca, do you have intentions to reinvest the transfermoney you received? Too many teams sold their riders before leaving the game(like Slasher for example). All that money has left the game. Not good for the economy. The economy is drying up.

Hopefully the end-season bonuses are much bigger than the taxes...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 21, 2014, 08:16:55 pm
Too many teams sold their riders before leaving the game(like Slasher for example). All that money has left the game. Not good for the economy. The economy is drying up.

Hopefully the end-season bonuses are much bigger than the taxes...
Economy isn't drying up through lack of money in the game, it's drying up because there's a massive mismatch between buyers and sellers expectations regarding quality & money.  While this exists, the market will remain dry.

Btw: I have $22m, and I can't find a cyclist worth buying.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 21, 2014, 08:19:57 pm
I don't think economy is a problem in the game.

People have money, but good cyclists are difficult to get due their users prefer cyclist and not money.
Only people that want money to start team with young cyclists or teams with more than 1 good specialist usually sell top winners.

And the other issue is that always people think their cyclists have too high value.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on May 21, 2014, 08:48:33 pm
If there is less money than the money you have should be able to buy you more. The only problem as mentioned is that people think their riders are worth more than what the buyers think.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on May 21, 2014, 09:07:47 pm
Im just wondering if too much transfermoney is leaving the game when a team quits.

I understand the common answers, I can figure out those by myself. But you cant ignore that, for example, 70-100M left the game after Osca sold his riders. That is my question. Does this hurt the total amount of money or not?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 21, 2014, 10:39:32 pm
I think these teams leveled the economy. I don't see teams are more or less rich than some years before.
It is a good sign
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on May 21, 2014, 11:07:37 pm
Waiting for the Taxman  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 22, 2014, 07:12:59 am
Waiting for the Taxman  ;D

Total Money 110 498 084 Euros

Waiting with love
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 24, 2014, 02:27:43 pm
Hi.
I thought inactive teams gets removed?
In CFF cup my first oponent is DaybeTeam (in 3g), last login =  2011 November.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 24, 2014, 03:05:10 pm
I thought inactive teams gets removed?
In CFF cup my first oponent is DaybeTeam (in 3g), last login =  2011 November.

Inactive teams still in 4th division are removed at the end of season.
Inactive teams in 3rd division are removed when they end the season in the bottom 15 positions.  Division 3 groups currently have around 35-40 inactives, but this should decrease in upcoming seasons with the higher participation rates in 4th division.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 24, 2014, 05:25:06 pm
Yes, in 3rd division can be inactives that we can't delete due to our actual system need 75 teams in every division, only the last division can have less teams.
We deleted 1500 teams although last season I update the system and new teams when all 4th all full can get the place of a 4th division inactive team.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on May 24, 2014, 06:48:09 pm
I was wondering what codes you have to use to get pictures and a different font color/bold/italic etc in the "comments for rider" section on the riders profile? The normal forum ones dont seem to work.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 24, 2014, 11:43:06 pm
I see.

But this team have had zero points for many seasons in 3g.
If you change the secondary sorting from (alphabetical team name) to (last login) in the division ranking then I think the system should work better with regards to drop inactive teams starting with low alphabet letter to div 4 where they will then eventually be dropped.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on May 28, 2014, 04:23:34 pm
I was wondering what codes you have to use to get pictures and a different font color/bold/italic etc in the "comments for rider" section on the riders profile? The normal forum ones dont seem to work.

Anyone that can help me with this?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on May 28, 2014, 05:28:50 pm
Just typ in some text, select it and choose an invisible font.
click on html to view and change the code.
You can copy/paste pictures right in the text window and again under html you can change the code to resize etc.

f.i.
<font face ="name of font">input your text</font>
<font size="2">input your text</font>

make sure you switch between text and html to either adjust text or code.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 30, 2014, 01:30:03 am
I currently have a cyclist in training camp, and he's due to leave for race 22.  How come I'm able to sign him up for race 19 (etc)?  And what will happen if I do?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 30, 2014, 08:32:32 am
I currently have a cyclist in training camp, and he's due to leave for race 22.  How come I'm able to sign him up for race 19 (etc)?  And what will happen if I do?

You cannot. If you sign up him in upcoming races, he won't race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on May 30, 2014, 09:55:55 am
Yes, if they play in other countries, you can do a list with all that are polish and when we create new nation in Cff we change their team nationality.
I'm unable to create such a list, I'm afraid...
But what about polling among the CFF players (here on Forum or - better - via mailbox on CFF) with e.g. 2 questions:
1 - would You like to add Polish nationality to CFF? (Y/N)
2 - would You like to change Your present nationality for Polish one? (Y/N)
That way we would know CFF players opinion - and it would help to decide whether to proceed with "Polish case" or not ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on May 30, 2014, 01:27:50 pm
When we have a list with a minimum of 15-20 polish daily users we can add your country without problem .
I know but have countries with 3-4 players is not funny, and as game is made in Spain some people go to countries without people because play in NT only 8-10 countries and with only 4-5 big countries is not funny. Have 40 NT with low number of users is not my dream.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 30, 2014, 03:29:58 pm
I can check ips and actually not enought polish people.
Add a new country needs time to change a lot of pages, and request help to add shirts, flags...
As I said, I don't like add a country and don't have after enough community.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on May 30, 2014, 03:44:15 pm
When I try to see the results from the first stage of Paris-Nice, I get redirected to the general "Rankings" page.  Is anyone else having this problem?

EDIT: In fact, this happens when I try to look at any of the prior race results.  The only results that work are the "last race" ones.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 30, 2014, 03:58:51 pm
Yes, yesterday I tried to fix a bug.
I see it is not ok, I will try today fix it well.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on May 30, 2014, 07:58:15 pm
I know you don't like to tell us everything about the specific stages, but I was wondering if the last NT race ended in a sprint or a downhill (GV concerned)? Do you have any general criteria for us to work by?  :)

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/luzern.jpg)

(I took it as a downhill final, because it only was one frame from the top of the cat. 4 hill)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on May 31, 2014, 02:06:47 pm
I can check ips and actually not enought polish people.
I'm not surprised - no Polish team, not many Polish players. But I can make such a survey on my own - through mailbox on CFF. Please, let me only know how would be: "Do You want to create Polish nationality in CFF and if so - would You like to change Your own nationality in CFF into Polish one?" in Spanish?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 31, 2014, 02:27:50 pm
I can't send poll but I ca send a link to forum post to sign up future polish players.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on May 31, 2014, 11:55:51 pm
Great :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 31, 2014, 11:59:08 pm
Great :)

Send me english msg with link and I will send it .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 01, 2014, 01:42:01 am
I can't send poll but I ca send a link to forum post to sign up future polish players.
I have a question.

Is this going to be available only to those from Poland, or to anybody.  I ask this, because I know there's plenty of those with a Spanish or Dutch nationality who'd change to any of the smaller CFF nations.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 01, 2014, 07:48:47 am
Cff always is open to anybody, because we can't do it for only one nation.
Change only will be available for polish but new players can choose the country they wanted.

If we play only with real country , our national teams competitions will have only 3-4 countries with 95% of players and the rest with only a few , for me no funny, although most of these people choose small countries that don't have high number of players ( I don't see in Nederlands, Portugal, Belgium, Hungary or Denmark as example).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on June 01, 2014, 01:49:04 pm
I know you don't like to tell us everything about the specific stages, but I was wondering if the last NT race ended in a sprint or a downhill (GV concerned)? Do you have any general criteria for us to work by?  :)

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/luzern.jpg)

(I took it as a downhill final, because it only was one frame from the top of the cat. 4 hill)

Trying again  :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 01, 2014, 06:24:39 pm
I know you don't like to tell us everything about the specific stages, but I was wondering if the last NT race ended in a sprint or a downhill (GV concerned)? Do you have any general criteria for us to work by?  :)

(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/luzern.jpg)

(I took it as a downhill final, because it only was one frame from the top of the cat. 4 hill)

Trying again  :D



It is a plain stage with hills influence due there are hills in last section. Not too much plain to be a sprint , downhill in last section is important but not too high.
Sprint is very low, dowhill medium-low, hills is more important, plain too and teamwork good level, medium resistance, medium agg y medium low tech.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: konex1977 on June 02, 2014, 10:38:55 pm

I am from Poland but I must play as englishman
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on June 02, 2014, 10:50:09 pm

I am from Poland but I must play as englishman
or one of the other 18 nationalities..
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: 29Dukes on June 03, 2014, 12:53:24 am
I just got an achievement called "Very InterNational Team". What is it for?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on June 03, 2014, 07:27:10 am
I am from Poland but I must play as englishman
Let's hope soon we will be able to have Polish riders in our teams ;)
But for Polish language we must wait a little bit longer - maybe someday I (or someone else) will have enough time to do suitable translations and send it to our Admin.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 06, 2014, 11:16:34 pm
I want to fire a rider (Jim Solbakken) but hen i click sack it doesnt go to the fire him page. Every other rider i have and try this it does it correctly. Im wondering if theres something wrong with this rider :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ender on June 06, 2014, 11:22:50 pm
I want to fire a rider (Jim Solbakken) but hen i click sack it doesnt go to the fire him page. Every other rider i have and try this it does it correctly. Im wondering if theres something wrong with this rider :P

If you want to fire him then don't sign up him for the next race.  :-X
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 06, 2014, 11:30:14 pm
I want to fire a rider (Jim Solbakken) but hen i click sack it doesnt go to the fire him page. Every other rider i have and try this it does it correctly. Im wondering if theres something wrong with this rider :P

If you want to fire him then don't sign up him for the next race.  :-X

hmm, ok ok ok :P Didnt even realise that.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 06, 2014, 11:51:38 pm
I just got an achievement called "Very InterNational Team". What is it for?
You have/had 17 cyclists from 15 different nationalities.  Let me make a rough guess.

I want to fire a rider (Jim Solbakken) but hen i click sack it doesnt go to the fire him page. Every other rider i have and try this it does it correctly. Im wondering if theres something wrong with this rider :P
If you want to fire him then don't sign up him for the next race.  :-X
hmm, ok ok ok :P Didnt even realise that.
You also can't fire if the cyclist is currently signed up for a NT race (happens a bit with u21 & u23 cyclists).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Brewnoe on June 15, 2014, 08:26:35 am
Ask anything ... who believes Contadoor did less drugs than Armstorng?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 15, 2014, 09:29:26 am
Ask anything ... who believes Contadoor did less drugs than Armstorng?
No idea, but I think Kazistuta, manager of Team_Boogie_Woogie (in 2b) has Magnus Lamp on drugs.
And Ronny Onken of team Saint_Raphael (1a) is definitely on something.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on June 15, 2014, 09:34:51 am
No way!...... at least not anymore...  8)
There's no need to in 2b, and the effect of PED's tend to wear off the older you get (*cough* who said Chris Horner?*cough)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Atalm93 on June 20, 2014, 04:48:21 pm
Is it completly forbidden to work together with a friend who owns another team?

e.g to train to different sets of cyclist and sell them to eachother for fair prices though.

And if its not, I recon this rule is easy to avoid by just selling for fair prices, as you cant say its obvious cheap sells just for helping another team, in this example helping eachother.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 23, 2014, 02:35:27 pm
Is it completly forbidden to work together with a friend who owns another team?

e.g to train to different sets of cyclist and sell them to eachother for fair prices though.

And if its not, I recon this rule is easy to avoid by just selling for fair prices, as you cant say its obvious cheap sells just for helping another team, in this example helping eachother.
I'm surprised that this question wasn't answered (I guess it was missed).

Anyway, Oska answered a cousin question some time ago, where there was an idea of prearranging transfers (I think it was equipment from memory) between players for certain races, and he said it wasn't permitted.
This appears to have a similar outward styling to it, whether or not this is the intent.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 23, 2014, 02:36:39 pm
If its at reasonable prices i dont think there will be any problems. There will be problems if you sell a worthless 39yo rider for 10million. But good talents going for 5mil isnt anything out of the ordinary.

It is sort of what happens all the time though. Someone sells a rider because he cant offer the right training, another buys it to give it the right training. Only now you have already thought of it before.

Also agreements about transfers are often made before they are put on sale. Which also isnt a problem. As long as its a fair price.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 23, 2014, 03:20:31 pm
The problem is that if you want that the cyclist go to a team , he has to pay overpriced to get the cyclist without problem and it is against rule's spirit and you will be punished or banned.

You cannot load a cyclist to get a specific training.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Atalm93 on June 24, 2014, 02:17:13 am
Okey, lets say im having a golden climbe rider and im selling him. Lets say another team has a golden cobble rider and selling him.

This two teams work together, but no on knows that.

The golden climber sells for lets say 20 million, while the golden Cobble sells for 25 million.
as the golden cobble rider is priced in general better.

This was my thought when I asked. How can you check that this is actually teamwork and not just a random trade-off with cyclists?
What rules or tools can prevent things like this from happening. If not there are any, what would then prevent anyone from doing it?

That was why I asked the quostion to alert on this problem if its possible.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 24, 2014, 06:36:19 am
When staff thinks a cyclist is overpriced we discuss about it and sometimes we change the price or we punish according the situation.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on June 24, 2014, 10:10:55 am
Have you ever considered reducing amount of races to only one per day (so that "game day"="real day") altogether with leaving two training sessions per day? I think it could make CFF even more realistic...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 24, 2014, 10:14:48 am
Have you ever considered reducing amount of races to only one per day (so that "game day"="real day") altogether with leaving two training sessions per day? I think it could make CFF even more realistic...

We had that in the first CFF :D The only problem you have then is that it takes 4 months for one season! To get a rider from 19 to 30 would take about 4 years.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 24, 2014, 04:09:27 pm
Yes, I updated it because it was too much time .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 30, 2014, 07:56:28 am
Quote
Flat Mountains : As shown by cyclist stats (http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/imagenes/info2.png) http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/orientador.php?ciclistaid=
Climbing++++ Flat ++ Stamina ++ Teamwork +

This can't be right.  For starters, isn't there supposed to be technical?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on June 30, 2014, 08:00:08 am
Quote
Flat Mountains : As shown by cyclist stats (http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/imagenes/info2.png) http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/orientador.php?ciclistaid=
Climbing++++ Flat ++ Stamina ++ Teamwork +

This can't be right.  For starters, isn't there supposed to be technical?

I don't see the link it should be http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/orientador.php?ciclistaid=XXXXXXXXXX

XXXXX Cyclist Id.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 30, 2014, 08:15:06 am
Opps, I got trigger happy sacking the cyclist, but any flat mountains cyclist should show the same (I presume somebody has one).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Brewnoe on June 30, 2014, 08:27:35 pm
Is the money for Tour jerseys awarded at the end of the season with the money for points?

I've got a rider with 3 white jerseys for my team, but I can't seem to find the money anywhere in my finances.
 http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=274233
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: stevegamer on July 06, 2014, 09:49:53 pm
Is the money for Tour jerseys awarded at the end of the season with the money for points?

I've got a rider with 3 white jerseys for my team, but I can't seem to find the money anywhere in my finances.
 http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=274233

I'm new, but I'm pretty sure it shows up under the "Tours" section of income once the tour completes. It's only for the final tour jersey holders, plus team title and individual tour placings. I checked my Tour of Switzerland results and they added up.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: stevegamer on July 06, 2014, 09:50:37 pm
I also have a question regarding time trial tactics - do they matter?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 06, 2014, 09:53:24 pm
I also have a question regarding time trial tactics - do they matter?

No, no tactics in TT.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Brewnoe on July 08, 2014, 04:21:12 am
Is the money for Tour jerseys awarded at the end of the season with the money for points?

I've got a rider with 3 white jerseys for my team, but I can't seem to find the money anywhere in my finances.
 http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=274233

I'm new, but I'm pretty sure it shows up under the "Tours" section of income once the tour completes. It's only for the final tour jersey holders, plus team title and individual tour placings. I checked my Tour of Switzerland results and they added up.

I did a quick run though before I posted and the results seemed noticeably off.
That was before my 30yo grabbed the green jersey in the Suissie (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=86373)
 ... once the cff TdF finishes and Yakiv does or doesn't grab a 4th white, I'll step through the results stage by stage + tour by tour and post the results
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: stevegamer on July 08, 2014, 10:02:44 am
There is definitely something odd. I double checked my Tour of Switzerland results, and I found that I was missing an amount which made no sense: 18,500.

My prize money on the results here (but it looks like there is an error on the 3rd place payout):
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/replayvueltas.php?temporada=17&nombrevu=Tour%20de%20Suisse&divi=4h3

tie to the table here:
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/tablapremios2.php

1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, Polka-dot, Green, and Team wins total 257,500 in the table and on the results down here in division 4; but I only got 239,000.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 08, 2014, 04:14:32 pm
New classements prices are not shown but finances are ok.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on July 10, 2014, 04:20:41 pm
I find it very difficult to find appropriate staff for my team especially Directuers  ???
Without premium staff it is very difficult to make good results.
Searching for staff is the is the greatest luck "factor" in the game. I can't be the only one who doesn't find that satisfactory!

Has there been any discussion about an alteration of team staff on the spanish forum?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 10, 2014, 08:17:46 pm
No, but due to new players I think add more staff is a good option.
I will add in new staff update.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Brewnoe on July 15, 2014, 05:54:29 am
Is the money for Tour jerseys awarded at the end of the season with the money for points?

I've got a rider with 3 white jerseys for my team, but I can't seem to find the money anywhere in my finances.
 http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=274233

I'm new, but I'm pretty sure it shows up under the "Tours" section of income once the tour completes. It's only for the final tour jersey holders, plus team title and individual tour placings. I checked my Tour of Switzerland results and they added up.

I got it to add up this time ...
To me, it looks like yellow jersey money is under "Tours" and shows on the riders' "Money Won"
Polka-dot, Green, White and Team money shows up under "Sponsor Income" and is not included in the riders' totals.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on July 17, 2014, 03:57:27 pm
I started this awsome game a few months ago, and I m still looking for those 2 free cyclists.
Is there a list somewhere from (top)teams that recently stopped ? It makes my search easier, I think. If not, no problem, I have patience to get really good cyclists.

ps ; ofcourse tips for good free cyclists are very welcome  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 17, 2014, 04:13:32 pm
I never talk about free cyclist and when I update.
There aren't list.
You can see in top divisions teams without points and their last time they connect.
I usually wait 25-40 days to put them as inactive because there is a manual process.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on July 17, 2014, 04:57:50 pm
I never talk about free cyclist and when I update.
There aren't list.
You can see in top divisions teams without points and their last time they connect.
I usually wait 25-40 days to put them as inactive because there is a manual process.

ok, thanks for the info, and I understand that
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: luckeyluc on July 28, 2014, 12:12:04 pm
Do we got cff awards this year?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: stevegamer on July 29, 2014, 10:15:42 pm
I have a Promotion/Relegation question.

It looks like the tiers are on a 3:1 lower:higher ratio. Given that, it follows that promotions go 3a-3c -> 2a, 3d-3f -> 2b, 3g-3i -> 2c, and 4a1-4a3 -> 3a (and the same for all other letters)

Are completely inactive teams deleted, therefore opening up more spots in tiers above, or do they need to be inactive, and end up in a relegation position? I'm trying to gauge what it looks like I need to do to prepare for next season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on July 29, 2014, 10:28:08 pm
Top 5 promote but a team from 4A1 can go to 3E for instance. Thats random. Inactive teams need to go to a relegation spot to relegate(1st, second and i believe 3rd divisions as well). Inactive teams in division 4 will be removed. So its possible that if the 4th division isnt full that more than the top 5 in the 4th division will promote to fill up the third. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 29, 2014, 10:55:40 pm
Due actually the game is full , although we will delete all inactive teams in 4th division, we don't need extra teams in 4th in order to complete 3rd divisions.
Only top5 will promote.

After, all  4th divisions will complete groups from 4a1 until the number of active players left us.

In 1st ,2nd and 3rd divisions always only top5 promote.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on July 30, 2014, 05:41:54 am
I think he wants to know whether teams are promoted before the inactives are deleted.  Say for instance:

1st: Active
2nd: Active
3rd: Active
4th: Inactive
5th: Active
6th: Active

Would 4th promote, or be deleted?
And while we're here, I might as well ask the follow up question.  Could a new player registering on say just before race 117 cause the 4th place inactive team to be deleted?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 30, 2014, 07:49:06 am
First we promote and demote teams (maybe one inactive in 4th can be promoted to 3rd).
After that, we delete all inactive ONLY IN 4TH DIVISION.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: taj on July 30, 2014, 06:08:13 pm
I CANNOT ENTER IN THE GAME since monday, 28

In the login page there is the following strip:

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ';' in C:\AppServ\www\cff\lang\lang-it1.php on line 1470

Thanks for your help

Taj, rarotto team (4a3)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 30, 2014, 07:34:48 pm
Now it is ok.

Please when you see a mistake tell me a message here or in my mail admin@cyclingforfun.org
I can't check all translation files.
When I received last files there were 2 mistakes that only italian users can try.
Thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: taj on July 30, 2014, 10:17:55 pm
You were incredibly fast!!! Tx a lot.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Brewnoe on August 01, 2014, 07:36:03 pm
Wednesday's end of season email said "Don't forget to sign soon for the Cff-Cup"

Is there an actual signup required?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 01, 2014, 10:11:37 pm
1st round is on sunday. If you are in 1st, 2nd and 3rd division ( and best 4th division's teams) you have to sign up your cyclists before sunday at 22.00 hours Cff Time
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 01, 2014, 10:27:15 pm
You are automatically in the CFF cup if you qualify.  You can select your 5 cyclist to participate in the next CFF cup race when the new season starts (normally [very] early Saturday morning).  If you don't select any cyclists, you have no cyclists in the race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: stevegamer on August 02, 2014, 05:35:19 am
Thanks for the clarification of random promotion. I see that there's not a way to predict where you end up.  I'm guessing that inactive teams are unlikely to be in the top 5, so there's little worry about them promoting in divisions with so many teams.

Already did my CFF-Cup signup, it's nice to make it in.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on August 06, 2014, 03:32:08 pm
What is the minimum wage for a rider?  I just pulled someone with a wage of 394.  Needless to say, he wasn't worth keeping.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 06, 2014, 03:34:12 pm
What is the minimum wage for a rider?  I just pulled someone with a wage of 394.  Needless to say, he wasn't worth keeping.

Epic rider! Max is 860. I believe thats 460 stat points.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 06, 2014, 03:38:52 pm
No minimum wage :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on August 06, 2014, 04:09:18 pm
No minimum wage :D

Then I wonder what is the lowest wage anyone has ever seen?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 06, 2014, 04:46:56 pm
No minimum wage :D
Then I wonder what is the lowest wage anyone has ever seen?
273 or there abouts, although that was some seasons ago.  He got a new career rather suddenly.

A majority of random pulls will have 800+ in wage, and over 90% at least 500+.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 06, 2014, 04:49:23 pm
Well minimum wage is 100 + sum ( skills).

Actually minimum wage in Cff cyclists is 328 and in our draft cyclists 171.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on August 13, 2014, 09:41:26 am
In World Challenge, I have 1 race left today.

When I click on 'Monte Paschi Eroica', it doesn't transfer to the race tactics screen. Instead, it just seems to reload the overview page of the WC.

Here's the screen of my page. It's clear that I still have to race the Monte Paschi, which is the 4th race from the left in the top row. can you help me out here? Thanks in advance.

(http://i.imgur.com/3Jqu61m.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on August 13, 2014, 10:05:17 am
I cant open some races too.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 13, 2014, 10:46:11 am
I change one thing to correct a bug , and I did other bug :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on August 13, 2014, 10:59:06 am
I change one thing to correct a bug , and I did other bug :D

No problem, it works again.  :)

Unfortunately I screwed up tactics and finished 2nd.  :-[ Can you help me with that too?  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 13, 2014, 01:58:45 pm
 ;D Maybe you can help me, I can't win anyrace in 1st round , I don't know how are cards.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on August 13, 2014, 06:40:37 pm
;D Maybe you can help me, I can't win anyrace in 1st round , I don't know how are cards.

Have you considered getting a mentor?  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vinsjent on August 16, 2014, 11:37:34 pm
In the 'team-screen' victories during career and victories during season are not displayed in division 2 t/m 4

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=2276 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=2276)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 17, 2014, 12:12:37 am
In the 'team-screen' victories during career and victories during season are not displayed in division 2 t/m 4

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=2276 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=2276)
They only appear on this page for division 1 wins.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vinsjent on August 17, 2014, 12:43:20 am
It would be more satisfying if it would say: Division 1 wins.
Or even better, if division 2 and 3 wins are also mentioned.

I know many of you started in 1a, but we didn't all have that luxury ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on August 18, 2014, 11:07:25 am
It would be more satisfying if it would say: Division 1 wins.
Or even better, if division 2 and 3 wins are also mentioned.

I know many of you started in 1a, but we didn't all have that luxury ;)
I know Oska has mentioned this before and it comes down to only 1st division races are stored when a new season starts!
It need more storage to store the records for all divisions.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on August 18, 2014, 12:05:34 pm
It would be more satisfying if it would say: Division 1 wins.
Or even better, if division 2 and 3 wins are also mentioned.

I know many of you started in 1a, but we didn't all have that luxury ;)
I know Oska has mentioned this before and it comes down to only 1st division races are stored when a new season starts!
It need more storage to store the records for all divisions.

Indeed, but I have to agree with Vinsjent that it could be an improvement if there is a header above the records screen, so it's clear for new players that only top 10 results for division 1 are stored.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vinsjent on August 28, 2014, 07:17:38 pm
I have a question about helpers/domestics.
Do they always help your leader if they are in the same time in a sector? Or only when the 'helping-icon' is showing?

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 28, 2014, 08:05:37 pm
I have a question about helpers/domestics.
Do they always help your leader if they are in the same time in a sector? Or only when the 'helping-icon' is showing?
Your best domestique out of those with the same time as your team leader helps.  This is regardless of his level.  The helping icon is only if the domestique is really good.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on August 30, 2014, 12:55:28 am
I asked this question in the World Challenge topic. Maybe it s better if I post the question here :

Question : The cards achieved this season, can those be saved for next season, or do you have to use those this season ?
Pregunta: Las tarjetas conseguidos esta temporada, se los guardará para la próxima temporada, o hacer lo que tienes que usar los de esta temporada?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 30, 2014, 08:06:17 am
Cards will be stored.

About Challenge we don't know if we will reset challenge every year or every 2 years, we have to see how difficult is and the best teams how they pass next levels. You have 3 rounds and when you finish you have other 2 times the same 3 rounds with more difficult.
Total 9 rounds, and at moment only Ciripolen has finished the first 3 rounds.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on August 30, 2014, 08:33:53 am
Cards will be stored.

About Challenge we don't know if we will reset challenge every year or every 2 years, we have to see how difficult is and the best teams how they pass next levels. You have 3 rounds and when you finish you have other 2 times the same 3 rounds with more difficult.
Total 9 rounds, and at moment only Ciripolen has finished the first 3 rounds.
ok, thanks for the answer  :)
And I m stuck in the first round, cannot win the last 4 stages, and too expensive to buy cyclists just for the World Challenge.
Maybe later this season or next season I can buy to complete the first round.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 31, 2014, 12:02:58 am
About Challenge we don't know if we will reset challenge every year or every 2 years, we have to see how difficult is and the best teams how they pass next levels. You have 3 rounds and when you finish you have other 2 times the same 3 rounds with more difficult.
When only 1 or 2 teams can complete this, how can resetting be beneficial?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 31, 2014, 08:18:19 am
Because other teams could be trapped and without play and reseting they can earn cards again.
At moment staff decided that every 2 seasons but we need time to see it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 12, 2014, 07:28:42 am
If a stage has one GV for the entire race (instead of 1 for each section), then in the TT (with no tactics), how can my Artis Putns go from 42nd after section 1, to 63rd at the finish? (with no falls etc)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 12, 2014, 07:34:12 am
If a stage has one GV for the entire race (instead of 1 for each section), then in the TT (with no tactics), how can my Artis Putns go from 42nd after section 1, to 63rd at the finish? (with no falls etc)

Because in every section I use different % in skills.
At init no resistance effect and every section it has more effect .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on September 12, 2014, 12:09:24 pm
If a stage has one GV for the entire race (instead of 1 for each section), then in the TT (with no tactics), how can my Artis Putns go from 42nd after section 1, to 63rd at the finish? (with no falls etc)

Because in every section I use different % in skills.

At init no resistance effect and every section it has more effect .

Interesting.

Does this apply only to TT's or also in regular races?

I ask, because I always was under the impression that stats which don't have terrain bonus (stamina, teamwork, technique and aggresiveness) were static and applied only to the overall GV of a race, not the 5 sections on its own.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 12, 2014, 03:45:32 pm
Only TT, we use + resistance + according colour in the section we use bonus in plain, hills, mountain or downhill.

In regular races we use energy ( less efforts used more energy) and effort bonus ( using the skill in the colour of the section)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on September 12, 2014, 06:01:57 pm
Only TT, we use + resistance + according colour in the section we use bonus in plain, hills, mountain or downhill.

In regular races we use energy ( less efforts used more energy) and effort bonus ( using the skill in the colour of the section)

Yep, thought so. Thanks for confirming :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on September 24, 2014, 04:03:03 pm
Question for MEXI: why are you not racing this season? A team with 4 (!!) golden tour riders has to be a top 5 member in div 1. Not a member of a second division!

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=2 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/team.php?userid=2)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 05, 2014, 11:09:17 am
Staff question:
Do staff members' skills change during the season (similar like riders' skills)?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 05, 2014, 11:31:19 am
Staff question:
Do staff members' skills change during the season (similar like riders' skills)?
No they don't change.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on October 14, 2014, 07:22:56 pm
I noticed that a couple of my rider's skills changed unexpectedly.  I realize that riders over 30 will begin declining and obviously the skill you are training will increase.  I also know that aggressiveness will change depending upon the skill being trained too.  However, for one of my rider's, his Stamina, Downhill and Time Trial increased by 1 since the end of last season.  I'm not complaining, but I was wondering if anyone knows why this would have happened.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 14, 2014, 07:57:58 pm
U23 bonus perhaps?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on October 15, 2014, 05:49:07 pm
Hi, I think there is a small bug with the World challenge since this season.
When i tried to run my first race on Monday, riders from another team was already  signed up from another manager (Chase), and I could set the tactic for them. But they disappeared when I selected one of my own riders.
Today however, this happened again, and I now checked and the riders were from different teams, one of them (Placido Santos) was even a free cyclist. See attached image.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 15, 2014, 05:59:31 pm
All these things are better in my mail admin@cyclingforfun.org with all details.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 16, 2014, 07:05:35 am
Is it possible to remove from "comments about my rider" a picture/photo added by previous manager?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 16, 2014, 07:23:52 am
Is it possible to remove from "comments about my rider" a picture/photo added by previous manager?
Only if you have supporter status.
I've actually discounted considering several cyclists because of stupid pics in their comments section.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 16, 2014, 07:48:31 am
Is it possible to remove from "comments about my rider" a picture/photo added by previous manager?
Only if you have supporter status.
I've actually discounted considering several cyclists because of stupid pics in their comments section.

Or you should just get supporter ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on October 16, 2014, 07:54:44 am
When I try to start a WC-race: No riders are visible at the tactics sheet, instead:

Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in C:\AppServ\www\cff\desafiando2.php on line 1055
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on October 16, 2014, 10:19:25 am
When I try to start a WC-race: No riders are visible at the tactics sheet, instead:

Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in C:\AppServ\www\cff\desafiando2.php on line 1055
Same here.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 16, 2014, 02:38:50 pm
Or you should just get supporter ;)
I have actually supporter status and I can add my comments to riders. But I don't know how can I remove photos mentioned above :/
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on October 16, 2014, 02:41:02 pm
Or you should just get supporter ;)
I have actually supporter status and I can add my comments to riders. But I don't know how can I remove photos mentioned above :/

I would assume you just save a different comment for your rider. Whatever was there before will be replaced.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on October 17, 2014, 07:50:23 am
Thank You, Sjiz - it works :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: taj on October 19, 2014, 01:14:42 am
I cannot play world challeng becouse I cannot select any rider.
Last days I had the same error about a strip like mentioned over.
tx

taj - rarotto team (2b)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 19, 2014, 06:17:17 am
I cannot play world challeng becouse I cannot select any rider.
Last days I had the same error about a strip like mentioned over.
tx

taj - rarotto team (2b)
Maybe your internet browser?
I tried in Chrome and I can sign up cyclists and other actions ( delete or tactics)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on October 19, 2014, 08:45:11 am
About the World Challange

Osca, can you place the buttons Save and Run the Race somewhere else?

Because when I play the WC on iphone/ipad with slower internet I often notice that the race has been done without seeing it. For example, I just raced GP Plouay. After clicking on Run the Race-button the page didnt open (slow internet) so I clicked again. This resulted in not seeing the race, and its not possible to see the race afterwards.

It happened last season I raced (and lost) all three races without knowing/noticing it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: taj on October 19, 2014, 10:37:37 am
Now I can doing only one race in wc. I ran only once. I use mozilla on my PC, but it happens in my smartphone too using CFF app.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on October 19, 2014, 10:44:14 am
Now I can doing only one race in wc. I ran only once. I use mozilla on my PC, but it happens in my smartphone too using CFF app.

did you win the race? If not, I think its the same problem I talked about 1 post before.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: taj on October 19, 2014, 10:34:24 pm
Yes I did. Andres wan Melbourne race, but now I cannot subscribe to any race, from pc or from my smartphone.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: taj on October 21, 2014, 10:29:43 am
Now it's all ok. Thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Foeke on October 23, 2014, 04:07:04 pm
Cobblestone++++ Flat +++ Stamina ++ Technique ++Sprint+Teamwork +


The more important is a skil, the more ++ will have. If a skill does not appear, it means that the skill does not have any influence in the race.

Here you can see which races are the best for your riders.
It is just an indication, the riders can have good performance in other races too.
There are also some riders who are quite good for some tours, because they are all-rounders.
In the graphs you can see what skills are important for each type of stage, which can help you choosing the appropriate rider and deciding his training.


So explo doesn't count at all for cobblestone races?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 23, 2014, 04:23:59 pm
Just to be sure that Foeke's question is understood:

Explo (Dutch translation) = Aggressiveness (English translation)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Foeke on October 23, 2014, 05:55:32 pm
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 23, 2014, 10:22:53 pm
Same with flat-mountain on technical

Flat-Mountain
Mountain++++ ; Flat ++; Stamina + ; Team Work +
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on October 23, 2014, 10:33:57 pm
Same with flat-mountain on technical

Flat-Mountain
Mountain++++ ; Flat ++; Stamina + ; Team Work +

Nah it's not the same, no downhill in that stage, no cobbles and no sprint.
The difference being that the cobble stage has sprint influence and you can't sprint without explo.
I'd say 2% explo in the cobble stage because sprint is involved and 0% technique in the flat-climb because there's no downhill, no cobble and no sprint.
If you cycle up a mountain you don't need any technique to take sharp corners since your speed won't be to high. :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JohnnyQKuch on October 23, 2014, 10:50:46 pm
It is the same, technique has a small % in this stage, in combination with flat. Technique is the only stat that has value in every race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on October 24, 2014, 07:15:46 am

Hi there !

On my upcoming races page and on the full calender it says that we have 2 races on sunday, can this be right or is it a mistake !
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 24, 2014, 07:24:11 am

Hi there !

On my upcoming races page and on the full calender it says that we have 2 races on sunday, can this be right or is it a mistake !
I don't know why, but it is a bug. No races on sundays unless we send a global message to users.
Thanks for your information.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on November 08, 2014, 07:58:58 am
How is the team ranking for teams with zero points determined at the end of the season? Is it totally random?

There's more than enough teams without points (several active ones like mine, and I guess we're all trying to demote to get a year with better options for our young riders) to fill all the demotion spots in 2b, but currently my team resides in the second spot of all zero-points teams (which it has done all season). Does this mean that I'm gonna stay in that spot if none of the other teams without points get any during the rest of the season?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 08, 2014, 08:03:29 am
Money that they have in that moment.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 08, 2014, 09:47:57 am
How is the team ranking for teams with zero points determined at the end of the season? Is it totally random?

There's more than enough teams without points (several active ones like mine, and I guess we're all trying to demote to get a year with better options for our young riders) to fill all the demotion spots in 2b, but currently my team resides in the second spot of all zero-points teams (which it has done all season). Does this mean that I'm gonna stay in that spot if none of the other teams without points get any during the rest of the season?

Maybe I can help you out on that problem?  ;)

How much money do you want to spend?  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on November 09, 2014, 09:00:59 pm
Money that they have in that moment.

So more money = better ranking?

@WinterIsComing:What are you selling?  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 10, 2014, 12:55:14 pm
Money that they have in that moment.

So more money = better ranking?

@WinterIsComing:What are you selling?  ;)

Yes, more money = higher ranking.

At this moment, I only have this really great Eneco Tour prospect for sale.  :)

Jesse Ebbinge   Age : 19   Wage : 845
Stamina : 28   Sprint : 43   Climbing : 19
Flat : 54   Cobblestone : 49   Technique : 46
Downhill : 55   Hills : 67   Aggressiveness : 50
Time Trial : 0   Teamwork : 30   Experience : 0
Price : 2 500 000   Days left : 2   Stages raced : 0

But if you're interested in a 27-year old 9* pure climber, we can talk business as well.   8)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Koozie on November 14, 2014, 04:53:40 pm
I am thinking of sell this 20 year old here are his stats

Stamina 53 Sprint 39
Climbing 3 Flat 67
Cobblestone 13 Technique 71
Downhill 40 Hills 81
Aggressiveness 31 Time Trial 14
Teamwork 44 Experience 3

He is one of the top 10 hiller prospects for the USA. What should I list him for. I want to get a fair price but I am not sure what to expect
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on November 14, 2014, 09:28:14 pm
you cant expect much  :'(
im not even sure you can sell him at all!
everytime you have a rider who has to race in a stage with hill. you have to respect the aggressiveness.

that goes for cobblestone-hill, mountain-hill, sprint-hill and hill riders.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Koozie on November 14, 2014, 09:37:23 pm
 :'( Well, that is good to know. I will list him and see what happens
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on November 18, 2014, 12:40:29 pm
Question: What time is the latest that you can fire a rider before the draft ? is it before 01:00 am or is it before 05:00 am...and does the draft rider arrive immediately after race 65 at 05:00 ?  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on November 18, 2014, 02:14:03 pm
Question: What time is the latest that you can fire a rider before the draft ? is it before 01:00 am or is it before 05:00 am...and does the draft rider arrive immediately after race 65 at 05:00 ?  :)

after the first training after race 65, so at 07:00h
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on November 18, 2014, 06:49:42 pm
Question: What time is the latest that you can fire a rider before the draft ? is it before 01:00 am or is it before 05:00 am...and does the draft rider arrive immediately after race 65 at 05:00 ?  :)

after the first training after race 65, so at 07:00h

Ok, Thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Koozie on November 25, 2014, 08:41:23 pm
Position Name Age Team Time behind Points Money
1  Jan VanDerVlies 32 alpes 0: 00" 0 0 
2  Thore Green 34 FCSCycling 0: 00" 0 0
3  Alexander Bart 35 qacycling 3: 38" 0 0
4  Benjamin Sheehan 32 CataTeamCycling 3: 55" 0 0


 I was 51 second behind at the start of the day. I won todays stage by 51 seconds. If we stay tied I think a split in winnings and points is in order if we are tied after the last stage. Although I doubt it as his guy has better flat, but if we were tied how would it be handled?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 25, 2014, 08:48:27 pm
Game has 0.0000 ;) maybe with seconds you are tied, but it is very difficult a total tie.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on December 11, 2014, 04:21:07 am
We just had an extra training session/transfer market/draft races event occur outside of the usual schedule.  Will this session be reversed?  That would mean undoing some sales.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on December 11, 2014, 07:39:00 am
Money that they have in that moment.

Now I've spent 10m on riders and is still in the same spot? I guess there should be more teams with more money than me now?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on December 11, 2014, 01:39:46 pm
Buy Cazale (20 mill) that ought to help you with your problems.
All the closed teams haz zero money. Maybe you should just spend all  ;D

It gives you such relief to not own anything  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on December 11, 2014, 03:47:33 pm
I need Osca to confirm that the standings in the zero points teams is updated every day, ranked by funds. There's twelve active teams with zero points at the moment, and only eight demote.

My team is not at all competitive in second division while I'm training young cobble talents, that's why I want to demote to return in two seasons or so. It's all tactics, I know, but as the game rewards long term strategies, that's my choice ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 11, 2014, 05:46:55 pm
I need Osca to confirm that the standings in the zero points teams is updated every day, ranked by funds. There's twelve active teams with zero points at the moment, and only eight demote.

My team is not at all competitive in second division while I'm training young cobble talents, that's why I want to demote to return in two seasons or so. It's all tactics, I know, but as the game rewards long term strategies, that's my choice ;)

Inactive teams are updated manually every 5-10 days, in that moment if a team is inactive his points are 0.
Active teams with 0 points are ordered by points, founds at the moment.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on December 12, 2014, 12:45:27 pm
Inactive teams are updated manually every 5-10 days, in that moment if a team is inactive his points are 0.
Active teams with 0 points are ordered by points, founds at the moment.

Hi Osca, sorry I am trying to understand what you are saying above.
How do you order by points when all the points are zero.
I think you meant to say "Active teams with 0 points are ordered by money" ?

Are you applying taxes to the inactive teams? Because somehow there are teams which are just forever staying in div3 for example this manager have been inactive for 14 seasons but still in division 3g:
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histon.php?userid=1135 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histon.php?userid=1135)
Haha, this really bugs me.

Last time my suggestion was ranking people by last login date when points are zero. But then Kazistuta will never drop to div3 ;)
At that time it actually looked like secondary sorting was on team name and didn't know it was funds:

If you change the secondary sorting from (alphabetical team name) to (last login) in the division ranking then I think the system should work better with regards to drop inactive teams starting with low alphabet letter to div 4 where they will then eventually be dropped.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 12, 2014, 01:43:38 pm
Inactive teams are updated manually every 5-10 days, in that moment if a team is inactive his points are 0.
Active teams with 0 points are ordered by points, founds at the moment.

Hi Osca, sorry I am trying to understand what you are saying above.
How do you order by points when all the points are zero.
I think you meant to say "Active teams with 0 points are ordered by money" ?

Are you applying taxes to the inactive teams? Because somehow there are teams which are just forever staying in div3 for example this manager have been inactive for 14 seasons but still in division 3g:
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histon.php?userid=1135 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histon.php?userid=1135)
Haha, this really bugs me.

Last time my suggestion was ranking people by last login date when points are zero. But then Kazistuta will never drop to div3 ;)
At that time it actually looked like secondary sorting was on team name and didn't know it was funds:

If you change the secondary sorting from (alphabetical team name) to (last login) in the division ranking then I think the system should work better with regards to drop inactive teams starting with low alphabet letter to div 4 where they will then eventually be dropped.

Always we have order by money when 2 teams have same points. If a team is in 3rd division after a lot of time should be because more than 15 inactive teams in the division. Only in 4th division we delete all inactive teams to have 3rd divisions full what is needed for the game before have teams in 4th.

They have taxes but they every week have their income. I can improve to be sure all that go down are inactive, and only if no enough inactives descend teams order by money. I don't like time in the game or name.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on December 12, 2014, 02:05:58 pm
Hi Osca,
Thanks for the feedback. I understand.
So a possible improvement (to make inactive teams drop to div4 eventually where they can be removed) is not to give the inactive teams their weekly income and/or clear inactive teams money at init of new season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 12, 2014, 03:34:45 pm
When they go inactive they lose all this money.
Maybe I have to update it when I add more inactive teams.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on December 18, 2014, 04:51:27 pm
How does equipment work exactly? Does it give a bonus on GV or on underground?

So for example 8 stars on hills. Does that raise the GV of a rider in a race that has hills in it, or does it give the rider a bonus in a blue hillssection of a race?

And another question on this matter: if your equipment has 10 stars on for example sprint, and you have a world challenge card with +1 equipment bonus on sprint, does that give you 11 stars? Or is 10 still the max. and will the card be wasted if you use it?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 18, 2014, 07:34:12 pm
Raise the GV in the stage according % in this stage.

If you use +1 in sprint and you have 10 stars, you have 11.

In form if you use +1 and you have 100, you continue having 100.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on December 18, 2014, 09:09:54 pm
Thank you!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on December 20, 2014, 09:00:46 am
Osca, why is the search for NT riders limited to 100 riders? Would save a lot of time if it is unlimited or at least 250 searchresults
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on December 20, 2014, 11:02:41 am
Osca, why is the search for NT riders limited to 100 riders? Would save a lot of time if it is unlimited or at least 250 searchresults

Haha, tried this before. Oska didn't really like excel, I believe...  ;)

Maybe you have better luck.  ::)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on December 20, 2014, 11:07:40 am
My sponsor deals are disappeared, is this a bug ?
( Mis sponsordeals están desaparecidos, es esto un error? )
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on December 20, 2014, 11:26:23 am
Osca, why is the search for NT riders limited to 100 riders? Would save a lot of time if it is unlimited or at least 250 searchresults

Haha, tried this before. Oska didn't really like excel, I believe...  ;)

Maybe you have better luck.  ::)

Maybe he doesnt like our National team lists of all disciplines. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 20, 2014, 11:39:04 am
I don't like excels and rankings :(
I'm a Cff romantic
I prefer NT managers improve their searches .


@Vos if you descend the money the sponsor pay you in 1st division is not valid due in 2nd is more easy.
Always you descend sponsors are deleted.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on December 20, 2014, 11:54:45 am
 :'(

(http://mikalasiko.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/6a013480029aed970c013489a21538970c-320wi.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 20, 2014, 12:20:59 pm
Lol :(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on December 20, 2014, 01:54:01 pm
@ telemon i suggest you increase the age to 26 that helps a lot and if your kids are tired of playing Wii. I suggest (as your lawyer) to increase the amount of candy given to your kids.  ;D

So if you go down a division the sponsor is removed? That is a new thing right?



(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/eatSleep3_zps51a40897.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on December 20, 2014, 05:41:57 pm
@Vos if you descend the money the sponsor pay you in 1st division is not valid due in 2nd is more easy.
Always you descend sponsors are deleted.
Hmmmmm, thought I was being smart to accept 2 deals in 1A, and cash them in 2nd division. Well,  I can understand that rule.
But I also had a good deal that I had accepted the previous season ( season 18 ) when I was still in the second division, and now I m also in the second division after descending from last season in 1A. Too bad that deal is gone too.

Well, it doesn't matter, again learned something and hope I get some good new deals this season. Thanks for answering.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 20, 2014, 05:55:22 pm
If you choose in 2nd you mantain it because in 1st is more difficult.
It is a rule since Cff started, not new ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on December 20, 2014, 06:30:08 pm
If you choose in 2nd you mantain it because in 1st is more difficult.
It is a rule since Cff started, not new ;)
Ok, I understand that, but that was not what I meant. I accepted a sponsordeal in the second division, and now I m again in the second division, and that deal is deleted. But no problem, maybe I get even better deals this season then that deleted deal.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on December 23, 2014, 12:07:11 am
What is the rule in chosing NT manager when there is a tie in voting? Is it random choice then?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 23, 2014, 12:18:31 am
Best ranking
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 23, 2014, 05:49:00 am
Best ranking
I believe you wrote previously that it was the player in the higher division, then ranking of both are in the same division level.  Is this incorrect?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 23, 2014, 07:37:39 am
Country ranking: The order is best division and in same division, by points.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on December 23, 2014, 03:21:58 pm
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/cartas/19.jpg)
You can have an extra draft cyclist in favourites.

When I activate this card, is it for only 1 night, 1 draft period, or is it active the whole season?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 23, 2014, 04:40:53 pm
1 draft period.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on December 23, 2014, 06:00:07 pm
1 draft period.

Great, thanks for the quick reply.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on December 27, 2014, 04:34:03 pm
Osca, why is the search for NT riders limited to 100 riders? Would save a lot of time if it is unlimited or at least 250 searchresults

Thnx Osca!!


But it still gives many 'More than 100 cyclists' warnings. (1 would be enough). Can it be changed to 'More than 250 cyclists'?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 27, 2014, 04:38:19 pm
I didn't update languages :(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 09, 2015, 11:46:44 am
I get this message after trying to race a World Challenge:

Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 2621440) (tried to allocate 6291456 bytes) in C:\AppServ\www\cff\desafiando3.php on line 4410
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 09, 2015, 02:03:35 pm
Server memory.

Until he automatically restarted to liberate memory it gives the message.
Send me a mail if it continues.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 09, 2015, 07:02:47 pm
The server is also 2 minutes late...  ::)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 09, 2015, 07:04:55 pm
It is the famous 2 minuttes  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 11, 2015, 03:44:51 am
Oska you little devil.

you can now search up to 250 riders. Is it all national coaches who can that abs u23 and u21?
will it be permanent?

the reason i call you devil i because my excel kept crashing while i overwrote some the formulas when i pasted the data with +100 riders ;D

still a small bug with text. Funny i didnt notice it said 250 riders even it is repeated 30 times...
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/Selection_033156_zps2dce081f.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 11, 2015, 08:33:45 am
Oska you little devil.

you can now search up to 250 riders. Is it all national coaches who can that abs u23 and u21?
will it be permanent?

the reason i call you devil i because my excel kept crashing while i overwrote some the formulas when i pasted the data with +100 riders ;D

still a small bug with text. Funny i didnt notice it said 250 riders even it is repeated 30 times...
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/Selection_033156_zps2dce081f.png)

Lol, I don't understand howyou get a lot of times this text.
If you can explain it to me with details by e-mail.

It is permanent for all coaches since at least 15 days ago :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 11, 2015, 10:31:33 am
there are not so much in to it!
when i search without any criteria this comes up. a rider pool +1000

when the rider pool is smaller it is only shown half the times shown above  :P

when i hit ex 156 riders in a search it is also shown ... around 1/3 of the amount above. it shouldn't be shown at all.

But i can live with it and i didnt notice it the first many times  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 11, 2015, 10:49:44 am
Thanks, now it should works fine.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 11, 2015, 10:55:52 am
Thanks, now it should works fine.

it does!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on January 13, 2015, 02:01:59 pm
Oska,

About a week ago I already signed up my riders for the Giro, but I just saw that my selection is gone and I have to sign them up again. Luckily I found out in time, so I already signed them up again, but can you check if you can find out what went wrong?

And possible return my money for signing up twice?

Thank you
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 13, 2015, 02:59:44 pm
Oska,

About a week ago I already signed up my riders for the Giro, but I just saw that my selection is gone and I have to sign them up again. Luckily I found out in time, so I already signed them up again, but can you check if you can find out what went wrong?

And possible return my money for signing up twice?

Thank you

Rare, I never saw that cyclists that are signed up were deleted.

Only at moment of the race if they are in training camp they are deleted. I will try to check if we have a black hole in this section , but it is the same process since we started the game.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on January 13, 2015, 03:21:14 pm
Oska,

About a week ago I already signed up my riders for the Giro, but I just saw that my selection is gone and I have to sign them up again. Luckily I found out in time, so I already signed them up again, but can you check if you can find out what went wrong?

And possible return my money for signing up twice?

Thank you

Rare, I never saw that cyclists that are signed up were deleted.

Only at moment of the race if they are in training camp they are deleted. I will try to check if we have a black hole in this section , but it is the same process since we started the game.

I found it very strange also, but I know for sure I have signed them up last week, because I have exams now and I really didn't want to miss the Giro
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on January 14, 2015, 01:50:53 pm
Oska,

About a week ago I already signed up my riders for the Giro, but I just saw that my selection is gone and I have to sign them up again. Luckily I found out in time, so I already signed them up again, but can you check if you can find out what went wrong?

And possible return my money for signing up twice?

Thank you

Rare, I never saw that cyclists that are signed up were deleted.

Only at moment of the race if they are in training camp they are deleted. I will try to check if we have a black hole in this section , but it is the same process since we started the game.

Did you encounter any problems while checking it?

For me it is not about the money. I don't care, but it could occur later to someone else and that might be a problem
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 14, 2015, 03:41:06 pm
Oska,

About a week ago I already signed up my riders for the Giro, but I just saw that my selection is gone and I have to sign them up again. Luckily I found out in time, so I already signed them up again, but can you check if you can find out what went wrong?

And possible return my money for signing up twice?

Thank you

Rare, I never saw that cyclists that are signed up were deleted.

Only at moment of the race if they are in training camp they are deleted. I will try to check if we have a black hole in this section , but it is the same process since we started the game.

Did you encounter any problems while checking it?

For me it is not about the money. I don't care, but it could occur later to someone else and that might be a problem

Yesterday I checked and I didn't see anything.
Can you tell me when you signed up and when you see nobody are in list for racing.
It is a long process but maybe I can add a database of the day you signed up and see how it would be quitted, but it is very difficult.
For the money no problem.
Sorry.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on January 15, 2015, 01:28:09 am
Oska,

About a week ago I already signed up my riders for the Giro, but I just saw that my selection is gone and I have to sign them up again. Luckily I found out in time, so I already signed them up again, but can you check if you can find out what went wrong?

And possible return my money for signing up twice?

Thank you

Rare, I never saw that cyclists that are signed up were deleted.

Only at moment of the race if they are in training camp they are deleted. I will try to check if we have a black hole in this section , but it is the same process since we started the game.

Did you encounter any problems while checking it?

For me it is not about the money. I don't care, but it could occur later to someone else and that might be a problem

Yesterday I checked and I didn't see anything.
Can you tell me when you signed up and when you see nobody are in list for racing.
It is a long process but maybe I can add a database of the day you signed up and see how it would be quitted, but it is very difficult.
For the money no problem.
Sorry.

I don't know when I signed them up exactly but it was at the end of last week (thursday or friday probably) and I noticed it when I told you here
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on January 16, 2015, 09:17:50 pm
When they go inactive
When does a team "go inactive"? No signing up for the races, no logging in or something else? And how long it takes for a team to be deleted due to its "inactivity"? I'm considering a little break in playing but I don't want to be deleted at all.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 16, 2015, 10:12:06 pm
Inactive is a month without login in the game.

I do it manually for this maybe is 32 or 35 days but with 30 days without activity I can put your account as inactive.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on January 18, 2015, 11:23:23 am
Hi, if I want to add a note for a cyclist, the original text disappears. How can I add a note without the original text being vanished ?
I also tried to copy-paste the original text and then add a new note about the cyclist, but the copy-paste didn't work. I m sure the solution is very simple, because I guess I m doing something wrong.
edit ; it s just a very little problem because I only add something to my talents, for example how they perform in the youth ranking of the Giro.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 18, 2015, 11:53:17 am
If you copy the text. Then it should be there.
But it could be because the copied text becomes white when you copy it and then you paste it on a white background.

The in-game mail does the same sometimes. It lives its own life, man!

So you have to copy you text. Paste it in a text program. Copy what you have pasted in the program and then paste that into where you want to paste  :P I sounds very stupid and it is not april's fools day...
But that works for me. But I'm not sure if it the easiest way to do this.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on January 18, 2015, 12:11:07 pm
If you copy the text. Then it should be there.
But it could be because the copied text becomes white when you copy it and then you paste it on a white background.

The in-game mail does the same sometimes. It lives its own life, man!

So you have to copy you text. Paste it in a text program. Copy what you have pasted in the program and then paste that into where you want to paste  :P I sounds very stupid and it is not april's fools day...
But that works for me. But I'm not sure if it the easiest way to do this.
Aha, ok, if I use a "by-pass" then the copy-paste works. I copy the original text to my note-pad, and then copy it from there to the notes about the cyclist and paste it, and then I can add new info to the original text.
Many thanks for the solution and also thanks that you added in your post "it s not april's fools day", because it looks like that the way I have to add something now  ;D  (but now I know how to add, without the original text being vanished, that s the main thing)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on January 19, 2015, 07:51:51 am
Inactive is a month without login in the game.
Thanks - I'll do it. After end of this season I will keep on logging in, playing CFF Cup, training riders, writing on the Forum, etc. but I need a break in races - the pace of the game (including two races daily, no inter-season break and moreless five seasons in a year) became too high for me...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 19, 2015, 09:31:47 am
Inactive is a month without login in the game.
Thanks - I'll do it. After end of this season I will keep on logging in, playing CFF Cup, training riders, writing on the Forum, etc. but I need a break in races - the pace of the game (including two races daily, no inter-season break and moreless five seasons in a year) became too high for me...
If you specialize your team in one discipline (say hills - or sprint), you can automatically cut out 60-70%-80% of the races; and still have a competitive team.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 19, 2015, 04:36:07 pm
@ pablo
That is what i do. Don't race competitive in too many races  :P

like you say. 2 races a day makes some people stop playing this great game. It simply gets too much. But it makes a season progress faster. so....  ???

I think the Grand Tours are supreme. But it ties me to the computer for at least 5 days. Though I want to do it. I'm not able simply because I'm luckily not disciplined enough to do it  ;D

Pablo take a break and come back when you feel like it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pablo8019 on January 20, 2015, 07:52:34 am
If you specialize your team in one discipline (say hills - or sprint), you can automatically cut out 60-70%-80% of the races; and still have a competitive team.
Nice idea... I'll consider it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 20, 2015, 09:17:22 am
If you specialize your team in one discipline (say hills - or sprint), you can automatically cut out 60-70%-80% of the races; and still have a competitive team.
Nice idea... I'll consider it.

Added benefit: when you have a nice generation you can train for a while you can sell a lot when you want to race more. You don't need 20 climbers. Train them well, sell them and when you feel like playing more sell a load and get some riders specialized in different races.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JoepJJ on January 23, 2015, 02:44:38 pm
Is it possible with the draft that you first get a skill with 4 stars and then 2 weeks later you get the same skill but then with 3 stars?

I had 4 aggressiveness for a rider, the only one who i was following, so i noted it. Yesterday i got aggressiveness again and now its 3 stars. So its possible or i made a mistake  ::)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on January 23, 2015, 02:51:30 pm
Is it possible with the draft that you first get a skill with 4 stars and then 2 weeks later you get the same skill but then with 3 stars?

I had 4 aggressiveness for a rider, the only one who i was following, so i noted it. Yesterday i got aggressiveness again and now its 3 stars. So its possible or i made a mistake  ::)

You made a mistake.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on February 01, 2015, 07:41:23 am
What are the odds for this  ;D

38  Genc Huber 36 elbruto 9: 48" 0 0
39  Jüri Kriit 26 CC_Paris 9: 55" 0 0
40  Johan Rahbek 35 brixen 10: 14" 0 0
41  Ivano DAniello 23 Cyclingboys 10: 35" 0 0
42  Denis Mori 23 Cyclingboys 10: 35" 0 0
43  Cristian Pirlo 22 Cyclingboys 10: 35" 0 0
44  Servais Kaplin 26 pointu 10: 37" 0 0
45  Gualter Tome 32 RIOJANITOS 10: 38" 0 0
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on February 01, 2015, 09:45:11 am
Probably not that high😉 I guess the 3 riders are trained similar and rode the same tactic as free roles. The gaps between riders in third division are rather big,so your riders might have filled a void☺
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on February 08, 2015, 07:01:49 pm
Is there any process for replacing missing national team managers?  The German U23 manager hasn't logged on in weeks.  Annoying when one of my riders would be one of the favorites in today's race, I believe.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on February 11, 2015, 08:15:45 am
I cannot join the Live Race, can you fix this ? 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JoepJJ on February 11, 2015, 08:24:19 am
Yesterday evening i put a rider on the transferlist. Now this morning it says 1 day left. Did something went wrong?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 11, 2015, 11:08:00 am
Is there any process for replacing missing national team managers?  The German U23 manager hasn't logged on in weeks.  Annoying when one of my riders would be one of the favorites in today's race, I believe.
Contact Osca directly.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 23, 2015, 10:59:26 am
Oska, ive just noticed a bug in yesterday's NT race. When I did the tactics for this race the wheater was sunny. But the race finally had a rainy icon. What went wrong?
 

(http://i.imgur.com/5G14Fex.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/PqRTZOT.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on February 23, 2015, 11:35:34 am
Oska, ive just noticed a bug in yesterday's NT race. When I did the tactics for this race the wheater was sunny. But the race finally had a rainy icon. What went wrong?
 

(http://i.imgur.com/5G14Fex.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/PqRTZOT.png)

Sun icon was active as well, as it was over 30 degrees.

My guess is that there isn't enough room for 2 weather symbols, but both were active during the race. I don't know why it first shows 'sun' in the preview, and 'rain' in the review.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 23, 2015, 11:47:01 am
Why does it say Stage Number 173?  (173 is also the kms).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 23, 2015, 12:17:55 pm
@WIC I dont think its possible to have a sunny day and a stormy day at the same time. Only with wind it is possible to have 2 icons (I think)

@Aurora_Australis Unfortunately the Stage Nummer isnt visible. The nummer is km, as you mentioned.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on February 23, 2015, 12:39:06 pm
Oska, ive just noticed a bug in yesterday's NT race. When I did the tactics for this race the wheater was sunny. But the race finally had a rainy icon. What went wrong?
I think Piet Paulusma made a mistake here. Oant moarn !  ;D

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on February 23, 2015, 01:33:05 pm
@WIC I dont think its possible to have a sunny day and a stormy day at the same time. Only with wind it is possible to have 2 icons (I think)

@Aurora_Australis Unfortunately the Stage Nummer isnt visible. The nummer is km, as you mentioned.

Sunny icon means warm weather, not sunny weather.  30 degrees or more, sunny icon is active.
In the same way, snow icon means cold weather, not snow. 10 degrees or less, snow icon is active.

So, technically, it is possible that 3 icons are active at the same time (cold, windy and rain OR warm, windy and rain)

That's how I think it is, a while ago there was some discussion about this theme as well and that's what I have remembered from it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 23, 2015, 03:20:34 pm
3 weather effects are possible, cold or hot, rain and wind.

Always we have more than 30ºC, we have hot effect, and sometimes it is raining too.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on February 23, 2015, 04:31:36 pm
3 weather effects are possible, cold or hot, rain and wind.

Always we have more than 30ºC, we have hot effect, and sometimes it is raining too.

Thnx, but not an answer to my question. All NT managers didnt see the rain icon when we filled in our tactics. As you see on the pictures the only icon we saw was the sun icon.

Why was that rain icon not visible before the race?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 23, 2015, 04:45:51 pm
Surely a bug, this evening I will check how icons are shown in these races and I will update it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: luckeyluc on February 23, 2015, 06:31:50 pm
Oska, ive just noticed a bug in yesterday's NT race. When I did the tactics for this race the wheater was sunny. But the race finally had a rainy icon. What went wrong?
I think Piet Paulusma made a mistake here. Oant moarn !  ;D
;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on February 25, 2015, 10:26:07 am
I also posted this in the topic double training session :

I also see that the cyclists that I have who are for sale, the deadline is finished this night and not the night of thursday/friday.
So that s suddenly changed, and I have 2 hills-specialists for sale and now because of the bug they cannot ride Zürich  :'(
Can you fix this please ? I m sure about this, because I put them on the transfer market yesterday-morning or afternoon.
( edit ; they jumped in one night from remaining days 3 suddenly till remaining days 1 )
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 25, 2015, 05:16:02 pm
I also posted this in the topic double training session :

I also see that the cyclists that I have who are for sale, the deadline is finished this night and not the night of thursday/friday.
So that s suddenly changed, and I have 2 hills-specialists for sale and now because of the bug they cannot ride Zürich  :'(
Can you fix this please ? I m sure about this, because I put them on the transfer market yesterday-morning or afternoon.
( edit ; they jumped in one night from remaining days 3 suddenly till remaining days 1 )


I have fixed but other time send me a message. Tell me if your days are now ok.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on February 25, 2015, 08:40:48 pm
I also posted this in the topic double training session :

I also see that the cyclists that I have who are for sale, the deadline is finished this night and not the night of thursday/friday.
So that s suddenly changed, and I have 2 hills-specialists for sale and now because of the bug they cannot ride Zürich  :'(
Can you fix this please ? I m sure about this, because I put them on the transfer market yesterday-morning or afternoon.
( edit ; they jumped in one night from remaining days 3 suddenly till remaining days 1 )


I have fixed but other time send me a message. Tell me if your days are now ok.
Yes, the days are ok now, thanks for fixing it  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on February 26, 2015, 04:02:59 pm
In the Spanish FAQ, it says:

"El proceso a final de temporada será primero se cobra el impuesto de final de temporada, después se paga el dinero por puntos conseguidos, se hace el draft. No hay fichaje en el proceso final de temporada. Los fichajes del proceso final de temporada se realizan al transcurrir la primera etapa de la copa y posterior actualización de las 01:00 AM."

Am I correct in understanding this to mean that your end-of-season taxes are determined based on the amount of money you have before you receive money for the points you earned during the season?  (The answer to this question is important to me, because if I receive the money for points before the tax is assessed, I will end up in a higher tax bracket.)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 26, 2015, 07:32:44 pm
Yes, taxes are calculated with your actual money.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on February 26, 2015, 09:02:57 pm
Great, thanks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 27, 2015, 07:53:23 am
Seeing the last mail for the national teams. I have thought about it before. And i would really like to coach a national team of a small country someday. Unfortunately this is not possible now. I wonder if it may be a nice idea to let managers of other countries make themselves a candidate for other countries national teams. The only people allowed to vote will be the managers from that country so that you still need the votes from the managers playing.

It is not uncommon in other sports to have managers from a different country to coach their teams. Especially not in smaller countries.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 27, 2015, 08:52:52 am
Interesting idea Sjiz.  I'm wondering whether there should be any restrictions of this.  Just some idle thoughts.

* Only managers in 1st (or maybe 2nd div)
* Only NTs where there have been no candidates by the first Friday or... (see next item).
* Where there's one candidate, voters be given option to open it to international teams (maybe votes in positive by Tuesday at latest).
* Only managers from countries which have at least 3 nominees in each of their NTs, or at least 8 in total.

There's also a (remote but possible) question of whether some might deliberately take on a NT position from another country to do a poor job.  So...
* Also, maybe only those managers who have had 10 or more international cyclists (as in not from their playing country) in their team for a season or more.

Just a few random possibly nonsense thoughts.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on February 27, 2015, 01:13:20 pm
I fully agree with this idea. Can't see a reason why you should not be able to make yourself a candidate for a different country, as long as you need to be voted by players from that country into the actual coach position.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 27, 2015, 04:55:00 pm
 I have to redesign a lot of areas to this new system, at moment no possible.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 27, 2015, 05:19:08 pm
I have to redesign a lot of areas to this new system, at moment no possible.

Shame, perhaps something for cff3 :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 27, 2015, 06:12:19 pm
or Cff 666.6  8)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on March 02, 2015, 08:28:16 pm
Who is the oldest rider ever to be active in Cff?

I thought that some 37-year-olds I had seen were the oldest, but then I noticed 41-year-old Luigi Jaggy (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=1055).  Impressive.  Is there anyone older?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 02, 2015, 08:32:29 pm
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=1255 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=1255)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 02, 2015, 09:53:59 pm
It's not really impressive, after all, they're just dead weight there merely for the sake of it.
A better question is, who is the oldest CFF cyclist still competitive?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on March 05, 2015, 01:24:58 pm
Osca, is it possible to store the tactics of the Live Races?
 
Just like the tactics can be seen on the Last Race page.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on March 06, 2015, 12:06:12 pm
Does one of the world challenge cards allow you to change nationalities?  I'm asking, because Australia has gained a div1 player.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Tone on March 06, 2015, 12:07:13 pm
Does one of the world challenge cards allow you to change nationalities?  I'm asking, because Australia has gained a div1 player.

yes
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: skunk on March 06, 2015, 12:11:52 pm
Does one of the world challenge cards allow you to change nationalities?  I'm asking, because Australia has gained a div1 player.

yes

Yes, but you can only change nationality between seasons.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 06, 2015, 02:51:49 pm
These are very creative World Challenge Cards  ;)

Are there anywhere where you can see what cards exist? You can link them from spanish forum or is secret until you (users) find out?

How rare are the 5 stared cards?

I have to invest in some more different riders  to level up ;


EDIT: I can see they have a thread on the dutch forum  ;D
Title: Changing Nationalities
Post by: tpfrier1975 on April 06, 2015, 07:16:26 pm
Is there any way that a team can change their nationality, without getting a World Challenge Card?
Title: Re: Changing Nationalities
Post by: Franky on April 06, 2015, 08:07:31 pm
Is there any way that a team can change their nationality, without getting a World Challenge Card?

Nope!  ;)
Title: Re: Changing Nationalities
Post by: ProSCycling on April 07, 2015, 12:26:43 am
Is there any way that a team can change their nationality, without getting a World Challenge Card?

start over.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dclark142002 on April 07, 2015, 06:03:48 am
I noticed in stages that the leaders at each section except the final section are listed alphabetically by team for riders who are in the leading group.

How does this work for tours with sprint points at intermediate sections? As far as I have observed, the leaders in those sections are still listed alphabetically by team for riders in the leading group.

Does this mean that teams with names starting with 'a' have a better chance of winning intermediate sprint points?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on April 07, 2015, 06:35:38 am
I noticed in stages that the leaders at each section except the final section are listed alphabetically by team for riders who are in the leading group.

How does this work for tours with sprint points at intermediate sections? As far as I have observed, the leaders in those sections are still listed alphabetically by team for riders in the leading group.

Does this mean that teams with names starting with 'a' have a better chance of winning intermediate sprint points?

Hi,
No the team name have no impact on actual position.
Just scroll to the bottom of the page of the section which have sprint points, there you can see the actual position.
Chz
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on April 07, 2015, 03:05:43 pm
I tried searching for an answer, but could not find it.  How does the Team Classification work in the tours?  I thought that it was like real racing where it was the top 3 guys on your team, but this does not seem to be the case.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on April 07, 2015, 05:03:30 pm
I tried searching for an answer, but could not find it.  How does the Team Classification work in the tours?  I thought that it was like real racing where it was the top 3 guys on your team, but this does not seem to be the case.  Thanks.
I don t know it for sure, but according to me the average time of the 3 best riders in a stage counts. And that time then minus the time of the best team in a stage, because that s reset on zero.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 07, 2015, 09:40:59 pm
I tried searching for an answer, but could not find it.  How does the Team Classification work in the tours?  I thought that it was like real racing where it was the top 3 guys on your team, but this does not seem to be the case.  Thanks.
I don t know it for sure, but according to me the average time of the 3 best riders in a stage counts. And that time then minus the time of the best team in a stage, because that s reset on zero.
It's as Vos says.  Best three times in each individual stage (as it is in most RL tours).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dclark142002 on April 08, 2015, 03:12:32 am
I noticed in stages that the leaders at each section except the final section are listed alphabetically by team for riders who are in the leading group.

How does this work for tours with sprint points at intermediate sections? As far as I have observed, the leaders in those sections are still listed alphabetically by team for riders in the leading group.

Does this mean that teams with names starting with 'a' have a better chance of winning intermediate sprint points?

Hi,
No the team name have no impact on actual position.
Just scroll to the bottom of the page of the section which have sprint points, there you can see the actual position.
Chz

Ah, yes. There it is. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 24, 2015, 05:18:56 am
What happens if you send a cyclist to a training camp halfway through a tour?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 24, 2015, 07:51:12 am
It leaves the Tour
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 28, 2015, 11:18:33 am
How much % effect does experience and weather icon have on GV?

Say a rider has a GV of 80 and has 50 experience and has a hot weather icon for a race in hot weather, so his GV would be __?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 28, 2015, 12:01:51 pm
How much % effect does experience and weather icon have on GV?

Say a rider has a GV of 80 and has 50 experience and has a hot weather icon for a race in hot weather, so his GV would be __?

We do not know exactly how high the boost is. Only one man knows it and hes not telling anyone.

From my experience it matters quite a lot, but how much, no idea.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 28, 2015, 04:30:12 pm
Yes but it is only more or less important in a relation to another rider  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 28, 2015, 08:11:51 pm
It is a bonus as staff, all bonuses must be as high as you can.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 28, 2015, 10:46:09 pm
Thanks for the replies to my question about experience and weather bonuses and their effects on GV.  Helpful.

Have two questions:  two of my riders have the same GV for a stage that includes flat, hill, and mountain sections. However rider M has 40 for flat and rider F has 80 for flat.  In the first section, which is flat, does rider M have to put forth more energy than rider F or can they both use the same energy?  If M has to put forth more, then how much more?

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 28, 2015, 11:15:18 pm
M must use more effort. If one has 80 and other 40, the second must use 2x efforts to get same result. GV + effort bonus + energy

In the next section the second has less energy bonus.

When you have a section skill low it is better don't use efforts but sometimes you have to use efforts to pass section.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on April 29, 2015, 12:35:34 am
I just received a new message post, but the message was a sponsor deal I passed from 3 days ago and only now it popped up in my screen. I noticed that a couple of times before.

Why do I get that message (only for sponsordeals) a couple of days later?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 29, 2015, 05:30:01 am
M must use more effort. If one has 80 and other 40, the second must use 2x efforts to get same result. GV + effort bonus + energy

In the next section the second has less energy bonus.

When you have a section skill low it is better don't use efforts but sometimes you have to use efforts to pass section.
Thanks.  I undertand the principle.  It becomes a matter of how much effort to use.

(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/campitello.jpg)

Let's say this is the stage.   Both riders have equal GV.   Rider M is 40 flat and 90 mountain and rider F is 80 flat and 50 mountain.  What tactics would be best for M?  For F?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 29, 2015, 08:25:42 am
Same tactic could be good for both, or very bad. Always it depends of % where the group is cutted ( sorry but my english is not enough to express it , hehe).
You have to try in order to get the best tactic according your objetive ( max risk, medium risk, low risk...) Max risk always could be save energy but you can lose the 1st group or try cut opponents with high effort in plain.

In the stage you put, the cyclist with 50 mountain has no options, hehe. You can use as helper with 33330 and the other cyclist can use 11115 or 00005 or 22115 or 22125 or 12225...
Having 40 or 50 plain always is difficult set efforts, with 0-30 in a skill the best use to be use pasive.
Never a tactic is good for the same stage always because maybe a year the race is slow with big groups and other season is fast with little groups, you have to try.
I'm the admin and I fail in tactics a lot of times for this, because luck is important, but the key always is GV + effort ( number of efforts x skill level in the section hills-blue, orange-mountain, red-cobb...)+ energy ( number of efforts without using).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 29, 2015, 10:40:23 am
In the stage you put, the cyclist with 50 mountain has no options, hehe. You can use as helper with 33330 and the other cyclist can use 11115 or 00005 or 22115 or 22125 or 12225...

Thanks, Osca.   I have not yet dared to try a 11115 or 00005 tactic.  In fact, the only time I have not used all 12 energy points for a rider was in a flat sprint stage in a NT U23 race and that was only because of a suggestion I received from my helper team manager (Winds). And the tactic worked.   I suppose my thinking has been that energy not spent is energy wasted but I've come to know that a 5 effort in the final section packs more punch if there is little or no effort expended in the preceding four sections, hence a 00005 can be better than a 22125.

with 0-30 in a skill the best use to be use pasive.

Okay.  I will remember this.  So this means if in the stage in question, if a rider has 0-30 flat and 90+ mountains, the best tactic would be 00005?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on April 29, 2015, 11:35:00 am
From my experience a 00005 will never work if your Rider can't rode flat. My ridders always lose connectiin with the first group as in minutes with even more effort on the flat sections.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 29, 2015, 11:55:50 am
From my experience a 00005 will never work if your Rider can't rode flat. My ridders always lose connectiin with the first group as in minutes with even more effort on the flat sections.

Part of the problem is that if your rider sucks in flat in a race with 4 sections flat he just isnt suited for the race and will have a low GV anyways.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 29, 2015, 12:17:50 pm
From my experience a 00005 will never work if your Rider can't rode flat. My ridders always lose connectiin with the first group as in minutes with even more effort on the flat sections.

Part of the problem is that if your rider sucks in flat in a race with 4 sections flat he just isnt suited for the race and will have a low GV anyways.
Gotcha.  So that means in order to use a 00005 tactic for a ffffm stage, a rider has to be strong in the flats and strong in the mountains.   Just wondering if anyone has used a 00005 tactic with a good result. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 29, 2015, 01:36:26 pm
I won with 00005 with no wind, and the cyclist was 87 res, 76 flat, 100 mountain, 75 teamwork
Without plain a cyclist never will be excelent in a stage where flat is the 2nd most important skill ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on April 29, 2015, 02:09:55 pm
And once I got dropped , when my sprinter was the nr 1 favorite for that stage, had 90 flat, and there was no wind.
Was dropped on the third segment when doing 10015 strategy, so there is always a risk...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on April 29, 2015, 02:18:43 pm
And once I got dropped , when my sprinter was the nr 1 favorite for that stage, had 90 flat, and there was no wind.
Was dropped on the third segment when doing 10015 strategy, so there is always a risk...
Yep, you r right. And the tactic I saw before, 00005, it s very risky in 1A (and maybe other divisions) too start with a zero. I wouldn't do that. ( just maybe with the exception of the cyclist being a favorite and he has good helpers )

edit : But who am I to give advice, lol, playing just a few seasons here, so not really experienced, and only my second season in 1A now, and still learning the tactics (what is great about this game, by the way). So my best advice would be : don t listen to my advice, lol. Still I think to start with a zero is too risky in most cases.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 29, 2015, 03:03:49 pm
Yes, use 0 is high risk, I used in 2nd with the 1st favorite and I had luck because without wind the 1st section wasn't fast. In 1st division usually I used 11 at start and sometimes 1111  with a top5-top10 cyclist
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on April 29, 2015, 03:39:16 pm
Yes, use 0 is high risk, I used in 2nd with the 1st favorite and I had luck because without wind the 1st section wasn't fast. In 1st division usually I used 11 at start and sometimes 1111  with a top5-top10 cyclist

How do you know you have a top 10 cyclist? I can only see top 5. Is this own experience, supporter feature or admin privilege? :p
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 29, 2015, 04:00:44 pm
Because the cyclist using that tactic was top5 in the stage.

Sometimes you think a cyclist is good but using a not bad tactic you get a bad result, other time you got a great result and you see the cyclist is good.

The cyclist was top5 or top10 maybe not real, but being leader, with training camp bonuses and good staff the cyclist has good level.
I talk about Tankink http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=54505 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=54505), I can't see now but I remember in Giro's stage 3 he was great , good mountain, good plain and res and high TW and high bonuses.

Use privileges to know it makes the game very boring, (joke mode on) I only use +10 mountain bonus or use punctures in your opponents(joke mode off).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on April 29, 2015, 04:08:44 pm
He must be Dutch  :D  Dutch cyclists are the best examples (joke mode on)^^
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on April 29, 2015, 04:13:21 pm
Because the cyclist using that tactic was top5 in the stage.

Sometimes you think a cyclist is good but using a not bad tactic you get a bad result, other time you got a great result and you see the cyclist is good.

The cyclist was top5 or top10 maybe not real, but being leader, with training camp bonuses and good staff the cyclist has good level.
I talk about Tankink http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=54505 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/histori.php?ciclistaid=54505), I can't see now but I remember in Giro's stage 3 he was great , good mountain, good plain and res and high TW and high bonuses.

Use privileges to know it makes the game very boring, (joke mode on) I only use +10 mountain bonus or use punctures in your opponents(joke mode off).

Haha
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 29, 2015, 05:19:59 pm
Skill: makes you come a long way.

Understanding the game mechanics

Experience.: Race a lot of races in the discipline every season

Know your competitors: Need you to analyze races he races in and how he performs

analyze: Your own tactics incl. all bonuses

Learning the game mechanics are hard enough. But you need many other skills to do well in this game. Luck is reduced. You can be lucky to nail a tactic and the game engine operates with a little luck.
Nailing a tactic are in many instances where to save an effort and spend one more on the 5th section!

Where the riders are less equal you can operate with the same tactic or any tactic and still manage a good result. A winning tactic in 1st division this season might not be a winning tactic next season.
Why not? I could list 10 variables. But go figure it out

When you have played the game for a while you will realize that there is not one way to do it things. Some users find this very difficult to accept others will strive. Most users a place between  ;)
How about training riders? You need to know what you are training for (what kind of stages(GV) etc). Those skills again. You don't need a gold icon rider to win races. There are a lot of other GV's to discover than the Gold Icon GV...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on April 29, 2015, 07:24:28 pm
Understanding the game mechanics
Impossible when you look at the winner and the number 2 in the mountain time trial in the Tour de France (div1A). It has been analyzed and there s no explanation to that weird outcome.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on April 29, 2015, 07:47:18 pm
Understanding the game mechanics
Impossible when you look at the winner and the number 2 in the mountain time trial in the Tour de France (div1A). It has been analyzed and there s no explanation to that weird outcome.

Staffbonus, form, health, weather bonusses, luck(!!), undergroundbonus and trainingcampbonusses...all the same? I think that's almost impossible. Not always the best rider wins, I think it's the same in this game. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on April 29, 2015, 07:52:57 pm
Well, you can look at the Dutch forum, it s analyzed there. The winner had ridiculously lots of luck then to win it.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 29, 2015, 09:17:46 pm
Edit luck was postet etc..

I refuse to understand TT  ;D I just let it be as it is. Like analyzing market shares in China. Impossible..

With game mechanics I meant what you can do to improve. Staff, training optimization and all the other bonus'.
Not the Game Engine. It is like a stage gv. Not much i certain.

The random seem to have higher effect in time trials. But i think that is not the case. Since the engine works the same way in all races. Unless Oska want to win a Tour or 5 of course...  ;D

So you can only make your own assumptions what you think is right or wrong in the mountain TT. So far nobody had made a strong postulate about this matter that others wants to believe in.


a little story:
The last couple of season there has been some good result from 2-3 danish riders in the hilly TT stage in Paris - Nice.
So last season It was on the NT ABS program and my hopes was high. But did they disappoint.. Ending in the 30's as best result. Pretty crazy if you ask me. I know not all the best hill TT's was participating. But this was the REAL eye opener what the bonuses are capable off.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 29, 2015, 09:28:58 pm
Understanding the game mechanics
Impossible when you look at the winner and the number 2 in the mountain time trial in the Tour de France (div1A). It has been analyzed and there s no explanation to that weird outcome.
Why, both are gold in TT-Mountain.  Climbing & TT is over 90, Stamina & Technique is over 80.  Admittedly, I would have thought Graca would have been better, but I can't see what's "weird", particularly with training bonus, staff, form, equipment, etc.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 30, 2015, 01:26:20 am
But this was the REAL eye opener what the bonuses are capable off.

Reminds me of the advice I received from my helper team coach (Winds) who said that it'd be most beneficial to me to go through the trial and error of learning tactics before using equipment, staff, training camp, etc. because these aids can project an inaccurate picture of how good (or not good) a rider is.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on April 30, 2015, 01:31:23 am
Understanding the game mechanics
Impossible when you look at the winner and the number 2 in the mountain time trial in the Tour de France (div1A). It has been analyzed and there s no explanation to that weird outcome.
Why, both are gold in TT-Mountain.  Climbing & TT is over 90, Stamina & Technique is over 80.  Admittedly, I would have thought Graca would have been better, but I can't see what's "weird", particularly with training bonus, staff, form, equipment, etc.
Dutch forum, Tour de France, page 5
In my opinion it s a very weird outcome ( including all the things you mentioned ) ; but a positive thing is that the cyclist who won the race unexpectedly is from a Belgium manager who I like and it was his first victory, so it s ok by me.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: dclark142002 on April 30, 2015, 06:38:16 am
What is this 'GV' you all speak of?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 30, 2015, 08:57:06 am
What is this 'GV' you all speak of?

Global value. A number that implies how good a rider is in a certain race. The global value is calculated using the stats of a rider and how important they are in a race.

For for instance in a climbing race with only mountains and no flat the stats that are important can be something like this: 50% climbing, 20% downhill, 20% stamina and 10% technique.

A rider with the following skills:
Climbing: 100
Downhill: 80
Stamina: 80
Technique: 60

Will have a global value of:
(100*50%)+(80*20%)+(80*20%)+(60*10%)=50+16+16+6=88

This is a way to compare riders to each other. Riders with a high GV than 88 will be better than the one i showed for that stage etc. The GV is also used as a base value in the race. So the higher GV, the faster the rider will be.

Think about Tony Martin in a timetrial. He has a very high GV for timetrials, his base is higher so even on a day with terrible material and crappy form and when hes feeling a little sickly he is better than i would ever be with the perfect material in my best days. Because my GV is much lower than his.
This goes for CFF as well. (Also with bonusses like material, form, staff, training camp etc. These are all multiplied or bonusses relative to the GV, higher GV also means higher bonus from these things)

PS: the Tony Martin example was an example, in reality i am much better than him at timetrialing.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 30, 2015, 09:55:43 am
PS: the Tony Martin example was an example, in reality i am much better than him at timetrialing.

But of course!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on April 30, 2015, 09:58:52 am
PS: the Tony Martin example was an example, in reality i am much better than him at timetrialing.

But of course!!  ;D

Sjiz, are you Sir?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 30, 2015, 10:31:16 am
Just got a new bike a few months a go:

(http://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/02/Wiggo-TT-Bike-10.jpg)

But you can call me Sir Sjiz.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 30, 2015, 12:33:36 pm
PS: the Tony Martin example was an example, in reality i am much better than him at timetrialing.
Yep, when you TT, you can do it for hours, when he's off his bike in about an 1/2 hour.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 30, 2015, 03:28:13 pm
That bike is a little over the top  ;D

What is the gear ratio.
It looks brutal on normal race bike.

I gave up counting the chainring. My eyes crossed each other after 14-15...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 30, 2015, 03:45:32 pm
I use a 60-5 gear ratio :P Ullrich style.

But im not sure what gears they normally use. Probably something like a 56-48 in front. Its the road bike used in the Tour Of Qatar TT by Wiggins. Since they dont allow the use of TT bikes there.

Edit: Even worse: Tony Martin used a 58 as his big ring at the 2013 World TT Championships _O- With 11-26 at the rear.
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/pro-bike-tony-martins-specialized-shiv-tt-38517/
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on May 01, 2015, 01:49:29 am
Ahh yeah remember the TT. I didn't knew special cycles wasn't allowed in that Tour.

But it explains the chain ring. I thought it was porn from the Pinarello factory.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tottyca on May 09, 2015, 09:57:25 am
In CFF Cup at tactics you can put full in all sectors for a cyclist without him causing to burnout ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on May 09, 2015, 12:27:49 pm
In CFF Cup at tactics you can put full in all sectors for a cyclist without him causing to burnout ?
Nope, you will still burnout if you more than 12 EP ( Energy Points )
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on May 11, 2015, 06:40:16 pm
When are the WC updating?
I drove 3+1 on saturday. Using a bonus card. But have'nt been able to race since?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on May 11, 2015, 07:13:44 pm
Same here. No new races yesterday nor today.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: agtxla on May 15, 2015, 03:28:10 pm
If I open a shop, then I can close it?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on May 15, 2015, 04:44:08 pm
Anytime. But it will cost you money to open a shop again.

50.000 in your own country
150.000 in every other country
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: agtxla on May 16, 2015, 10:27:30 am
Ok. But how much money cost the closing?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on May 16, 2015, 11:26:33 am
Ok. But how much money cost the closing?

Thanks

0 €
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 07, 2015, 10:56:52 pm
Why do players draft 19 year olds, train them to 26-28, and don't give them any meaningful race experience?  And then try to sell them.  It just seems to be a waste of playing time.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on June 07, 2015, 11:00:32 pm
How can I cross the Baltic Sea?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on June 08, 2015, 10:32:00 am
Why do players draft 19 year olds, train them to 26-28, and don't give them any meaningful race experience?  And then try to sell them.  It just seems to be a waste of playing time.
Interested to know what "meaningful race experience" means.   How much experience should a 26 year old have to be considered meaningful?   60+?   70+?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on June 09, 2015, 11:39:27 pm
Something like that.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on June 10, 2015, 07:13:01 am
Why do players draft 19 year olds, train them to 26-28, and don't give them any meaningful race experience?  And then try to sell them.  It just seems to be a waste of playing time.

Because they are new? Because they don't have that much for enlisting every race and not earning money? I can give you some other examples.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Brewnoe on June 11, 2015, 09:50:15 am
Is 60 exp @26 "meaningful" ... "or elite" ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 11, 2015, 10:28:40 am
Meaningfull. I have a few riders at 24 with close to 70 exp. So 60 at 26 is good. Mine raced the max it could and had all Grand Tours etc. At 26 you could be close to a 100 but thats not really needed. 60 is a good number to have then.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on June 11, 2015, 11:46:40 am
Meaningfull. I have a few riders at 24 with close to 70 exp. So 60 at 26 is good. Mine raced the max it could and had all Grand Tours etc. At 26 you could be close to a 100 but thats not really needed. 60 is a good number to have then.

How many races can they Ride each season without losing training?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on June 11, 2015, 11:53:21 am
Meaningfull. I have a few riders at 24 with close to 70 exp. So 60 at 26 is good. Mine raced the max it could and had all Grand Tours etc. At 26 you could be close to a 100 but thats not really needed. 60 is a good number to have then.

How many races can they Ride each season without losing training?

If you have +8 form you can ride 54 races + Lombardia
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 11, 2015, 10:26:37 pm
Meaningfull. I have a few riders at 24 with close to 70 exp. So 60 at 26 is good. Mine raced the max it could and had all Grand Tours etc. At 26 you could be close to a 100 but thats not really needed. 60 is a good number to have then.
How many races can they Ride each season without losing training?
If you have +8 form you can ride 54 races + Lombardia
You really only need to go +3 on form, for 44 races.  Your cyclists will still get to 100 experience by around 28-29, and there's not much to be gained by getting to max exp before then.

On meaningful experience, I keep seeing cyclists with otherwise decent stats, except their experience is <20 (some with <5).  At 26 or so years of age, I'm not even going to bother bidding for them.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on June 12, 2015, 06:19:40 pm
Too many riders and to few teams could also be the problem.

Or as I see it: It is difficult to compete when you also training youngsters. Unless you really know what you are doing. Giving more than 5 youngsters adequate experience is impossible while competing!

You could drop a division. But competing or/and winning races aren't quite as fun when you have tasted the success on a higher level (whether it's 1st or second division)..
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on June 12, 2015, 06:23:05 pm
Totally agree. This is also my issue currently.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 13, 2015, 06:39:18 am
Or as I see it: It is difficult to compete when you also training youngsters. Unless you really know what you are doing. Giving more than 5 youngsters adequate experience is impossible while competing!

You could drop a division. But competing or/and winning races aren't quite as fun when you have tasted the success on a higher level (whether it's 1st or second division)..
118racesx5cyclists=590
590/44=13.41
This means you can give a full 44 races to 13 cyclists.  And you can give full tour experience to around 9 cyclists.

In experience, there's a maximum of
590x0.15=88.5
+ST=0.4x35=14
+GT=1x15=15
=117.5 experience points per season
117.5/14 cyclists*12 seasons=100.71 experience
So even if you had 14 cyclists, you can get all of them to 100 experience before the start of their 30th year, even if they don't have a single international race.
If you had 10-12 youngsters, and the rest older cyclists doing single races, then 100 experience for some can be achieved prior to their 28th birthday, even without international races.

(Btw: 20 cyclists can average 70.5 experience without international races by their 30th birthday.)


You don't think that having 21-22 year olds thrashing 30 year olds isn't fun?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on June 13, 2015, 11:57:14 am
Don't shoot the messenger  ;D

I was really disappointed to see the lack of experience at some good riders when i started NT coaching 3 seasons ago. So I started a discourse about this matter back then. But the game isn't so static as an equation.  Objective change from time and riders might not evolve as quick as expected while others do...
And the problem with experience is that it takes a long time which can't be fixed by the staff.

To make a good result with youngsters you need a really good helper. So why risk a top spot with a younger rider when it seem to be better to use the older (might) better rider? Everybody wants to win with a 26 yo. But this only happens in very very few cases. I personally thinks it could happen more often if users used the few opportunities there ais for this scenario.
But users play safe and wait for the results.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on June 29, 2015, 07:30:48 pm
Was I the only one who couldn't log into CFF from around 18:00-19:30?

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on June 29, 2015, 07:38:20 pm
me2
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on June 29, 2015, 10:04:37 pm
Me also

I was on at around 18:15 but at 19:10 i couldnt log on.

This also happened a couple of months ago several times...and sometimes i could see that other nations had been on and posting in the forum...only sometimes though.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on June 30, 2015, 12:57:17 am
Anyway it had a big impact on the Volta stage 4 race.

I didn't set any tactic for my tourman. But managed to get in the 2nd group  :o
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on June 30, 2015, 06:42:07 am
That is why i always set my tactics a couple of stages ahead ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on July 09, 2015, 11:44:50 am
I was attempting to read a translation of the Dutch forum.  Anyway, there was a question which asked something like this.

If I select to send a cyclist into training camp at race 3
He gets out for race 17
Tirreno starts race 14

If I select the cyclist to race in Tirreno, he'll miss the first race.
But will he suddenly arrive for race 17 (4th stage of Tirreno)?

I was certain the answer would be no, but the Dutch translation made me wonder.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on July 09, 2015, 12:50:55 pm
The answer is no. You need to ride the first stage of a tour in order to ride any other stage. Dropping out by starting an training camp is possible.

I wonder what made you wonder?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on July 30, 2015, 01:02:45 am

Jens VanStraalen   Edad : 19   Sueldo : 859 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
Resistencia : 63   Sprint : 6   Montaña : 64
LLano : 25   Pavés : 15   Tecnica : 60
Descenso : 60   Colinas : 6   Agresividad : 69
Crono : 69   TraEqui : 23   Experiencia : 2
Precio : 7 900 000   Dias Quedan : 1   Carreras Disputadas : 10
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506)
Bids at the moment :  6

Saw this rider for sale and would be interested in knowing how one would go about training him. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on July 30, 2015, 08:04:46 am

Jens VanStraalen   Edad : 19   Sueldo : 859 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
Resistencia : 63   Sprint : 6   Montaña : 64
LLano : 25   Pavés : 15   Tecnica : 60
Descenso : 60   Colinas : 6   Agresividad : 69
Crono : 69   TraEqui : 23   Experiencia : 2
Precio : 7 900 000   Dias Quedan : 1   Carreras Disputadas : 10
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506)
Bids at the moment :  6

Saw this rider for sale and would be interested in knowing how one would go about training him.

He is a pure climber for now. So i would start with training his climbing to 90. After that switch to downhill and train it as far as you can until he is 23. Then you can switch to train his climbing to 100 or stay on downhill and train that to 80 or 90. Then you can do stamina till 80 and then its time to decide if you want to train flat of keep him as a pure climber. But first climbing to 90. He needs that for everything he can become (pure climber, flat climber, climb tter etc)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on July 30, 2015, 08:39:21 am

Jens VanStraalen   Edad : 19   Sueldo : 859 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
Resistencia : 63   Sprint : 6   Montaña : 64
LLano : 25   Pavés : 15   Tecnica : 60
Descenso : 60   Colinas : 6   Agresividad : 69
Crono : 69   TraEqui : 23   Experiencia : 2
Precio : 7 900 000   Dias Quedan : 1   Carreras Disputadas : 10
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506)
Bids at the moment :  6

Saw this rider for sale and would be interested in knowing how one would go about training him.

He is a pure climber for now. So i would start with training his climbing to 90. After that switch to downhill and train it as far as you can until he is 23. Then you can switch to train his climbing to 100 or stay on downhill and train that to 80 or 90. Then you can do stamina till 80 and then its time to decide if you want to train flat of keep him as a pure climber. But first climbing to 90. He needs that for everything he can become (pure climber, flat climber, climb tter etc)
Thanks.  I assume that if he were a hiller, then the same regimen would apply i.e. train hills till 90, then switch to downhill until age 23, then etc.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on July 30, 2015, 08:55:47 am

Jens VanStraalen   Edad : 19   Sueldo : 859 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/nieve.jpg)
Resistencia : 63   Sprint : 6   Montaña : 64
LLano : 25   Pavés : 15   Tecnica : 60
Descenso : 60   Colinas : 6   Agresividad : 69
Crono : 69   TraEqui : 23   Experiencia : 2
Precio : 7 900 000   Dias Quedan : 1   Carreras Disputadas : 10
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=529506)
Bids at the moment :  6

Saw this rider for sale and would be interested in knowing how one would go about training him.

He is a pure climber for now. So i would start with training his climbing to 90. After that switch to downhill and train it as far as you can until he is 23. Then you can switch to train his climbing to 100 or stay on downhill and train that to 80 or 90. Then you can do stamina till 80 and then its time to decide if you want to train flat of keep him as a pure climber. But first climbing to 90. He needs that for everything he can become (pure climber, flat climber, climb tter etc)
Thanks.  I assume that if he were a hiller, then the same regimen would apply i.e. train hills till 90, then switch to downhill until age 23, then etc.

Yes.

The idea behind this is the U23 bonus of 0,02 skill point per training on every stat. This gets more and more interesting the higher a stat is. 0,02 per training when you have a skill you are training 0,25 per training (between 0 and 20) is relatively less progress then above 90 when you are getting the same 0,02 point per training and when you are training 0,025 per training. Thats almost a free days worth of training instead of 1/10th of a training.

So getting the main skills above that level asap is very important. It saves training in the long run. If you can get a second stat to 80 you will get the maximum out of the u23 bonus.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on July 30, 2015, 09:59:12 am
So getting the main skills above that level asap is very important. It saves training in the long run. If you can get a second stat to 80 you will get the maximum out of the u23 bonus.

Duly noted.  Thanks much.  Off to training I go.   :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on August 11, 2015, 04:18:58 pm
Can somebody make on the Nederlandstalig forum a Childboard with a 'FAQ' and an 'Off Topic 'part?
Just like here on the English Cff Forum.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on August 11, 2015, 04:34:45 pm
Can somebody make on the Nederlandstalig forum a Childboard with a 'FAQ' and an 'Off Topic 'part?
Just like here on the English Cff Forum.

Or if somebody who doesn't have the permission but knows how to create it, pm me!  ::)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on August 11, 2015, 10:09:22 pm
Done ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on August 11, 2015, 10:22:39 pm
tx levsim!  8)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: levsim on August 12, 2015, 12:05:58 am
Welcome. I see you've already started using it. ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on August 13, 2015, 09:39:15 pm
I was just looking at Benny Skjødt and wondered if you [Oska] keep a list of best cyclists ever based on their peak GV?
Would be very interesting and awesome to put in a hall of hystorie/Glory.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 14, 2015, 10:49:24 am
I was just looking at Benny Skjødt and wondered if you [Oska] keep a list of best cyclists ever based on their peak GV?
Would be very interesting and awesome to put in a hall of hystorie/Glory.

I have a list at end of every season with the best cyclist in every terrain ( same as medals) with their values.

As example the best cobb-hills cyclist has been Kauls, Duval the best cobb-plain, Malone the best pure climber, Henning Peterssen plain-mountain, Jonny Power in hills-mountain, Troost best in plain sprint, Goran Senn in sprint-hills, Aranzabal TT plain, Munk TT hills, Holtman TT mountain, Kohárszky best in pure hills, Cammenieri in plain-hills


In stages we have records for the best result in every stage.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on August 15, 2015, 10:27:03 am
Yep but records don't tell the whole story since they can only be set in division 1.
For example Robin Dekort was racing in division 2 in his prime if I remember correctly.
To me it would be very interesting to compare him to Senn both in their prime.
I'm not suggesting to make another hall of fame in CFF, maybe on the forum.  :P
I just love stats and rankings like a while ago you tweeted best tactics used in that season.

I know you have to eat, sleep, work and have a family so I'm not gonna steal your time, I
was mostly just wondering about if you stored info like that. :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 15, 2015, 06:43:56 pm
I can't store all results in all divisions, in medals I store the best in all the game.
We store the supporter's cyclists until they retired every week, they can know their stats
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on August 19, 2015, 06:40:50 am
What happens if you go below 0 in finances? Will it be game over, or do you just stay there (and maybe pay some interest on debt) ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on August 19, 2015, 07:01:37 am
What happens if you go below 0 in finances? Will it be game over, or do you just stay there (and maybe pay some interest on debt) ?
'
Im not sure, but I don think it s possible to go below zero.
But I m sure someone else will answer your question better.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 19, 2015, 08:04:19 am
You will be unable to buy or scout riders. You can put riders up for sale and sign in for races. You cannot hire staff(im not entirely sure about this) but you can fire them. You wont get bankrupted immediately. But i think that after a while you either start a new team or get out of dept :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on August 19, 2015, 09:04:54 am
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,845.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on August 19, 2015, 07:43:35 pm
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,845.0.html
Perfect, thank you!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on August 22, 2015, 07:38:04 am
In a race, are some sections longer than others? I mean - if there are 2 green sections and in the picture one of them is longer thatn another, is this taken into account in the game engine?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 22, 2015, 11:51:19 am
No, in race engine is the same effect.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on August 22, 2015, 12:22:03 pm
Hey, I have a similar question.
Is a green section with a small hill ( 4 or 3 ) harder than one without?
Therefore will it be beneficial spending more EP on such a section?
Same for hill on the red cobblestone section, is it harder than a plain cobblestone?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 22, 2015, 12:47:54 pm
More or less hills, or km or more plain or how much plain before end, all these I try to include in GLOBAL VALUE .
But in sections we only apply a bonus effort that only is applied in the main skill of the section ( red-cobb; orange-mount;yellow-downhill; blue-hills; green-plain (unless less section that it is sprint).
At end the time you get in the section is : GLOBAL VALUE + (Effort you put calm,nor,wat, agg...x main skill of the section) + Energy bonus( efforts without use in the stage)+ Helper bonus

For this if you as example in a red section has a low value in cobblestones your bonus will be low and it is better you don't use efforts and it is better always use in sections where you are good or medium.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on August 22, 2015, 01:04:55 pm
Thanks for the (good) answer, but perhaps I should have asked my question different.
Does the group split easier if there is a hill on a green or red section?
We know groups split up easiest on mountain, then hill, then cobblestone and sprint last.
But will a group split up more in a race such as this:
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/lincoln.jpg)
compared to
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/escaut.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 22, 2015, 01:08:54 pm
Split is higher in mountain , then in hills and cobb ( same), then plain and downhill.

Split has a max and a minimun according the colour  and the section number, for this one day you can enter in a group with normal and other you can need 1 less or 1 more effort.
With more wind the minimum is lower.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on August 31, 2015, 02:07:30 am
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/verrankingteam23.php (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/verrankingteam23.php)

From the above link, what does Points/User and Points/Cyclists mean?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on August 31, 2015, 08:00:52 am
Its simple really: Points/cyclist are the amount of points the national team have won this season divided by all active cyclist in that category. So a small nations usually do better here because they score less points than big nations but they also have less cyclist. The other one is the same except its divided by the amount of teams that nation has.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on September 09, 2015, 01:52:32 am
What's the formula (if there is one) to achieve bronze status in hills?    Same question for climbing, cobble, sprint, and TT.

Then about silver status?   

And also gold status?

I'm thinking these questions may have already been asked and answered but I could not locate them.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on September 09, 2015, 12:13:57 pm
The formula are hidden somewhere in a safe so you can only estimate.
You know of the spiderwebs that every cyclists has?
When the green dot is about to hit the fourth line from the top it turns to bronze. ;) [second from the top for silver]
Sean Feldner is close to 3 stars.

If you use an evaluator you can look on the market for hill cyclists, check their spiderweb and see if they are close to that point
and check their GV in your evaluator.
That might give you some more insight but exact is prety hard since you don't know the exact stats, 80 can be 80,49 etc.
I use the spiderwebs a lot, can't live without them anymore.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on September 09, 2015, 12:41:55 pm
The formula are hidden somewhere in a safe so you can only estimate.
You know of the spiderwebs that every cyclists has?
When the green dot is about to hit the fourth line from the top it turns to bronze. ;) [second from the top for silver]
Sean Feldner is close to 3 stars.

If you use an evaluator you can look on the market for hill cyclists, check their spiderweb and see if they are close to that point
and check their GV in your evaluator.
That might give you some more insight but exact is prety hard since you don't know the exact stats, 80 can be 80,49 etc.
I use the spiderwebs a lot, can't live without them anymore.  :)

It has to be noted that this is a supporter feature. Only 10 euros for 6 months to substain this beautiful game and get access to useful extra statistics and features. It's worth it and more important, you help this game stay online.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on September 09, 2015, 01:04:56 pm
Some examples:


(https://i.gyazo.com/f724c2915d20df702a04a1287b9f8c8a.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/c49c0ec1a41772fceece53097f55e487.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/334fb9217b4fc785f38dec3b9368a886.png)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 09, 2015, 01:15:23 pm
The site should really advertise its supporter features more.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on September 09, 2015, 02:07:25 pm
The site should really advertise its supporter features more.

True but it's tricky to not giving players the idea that they have to pay money to not miss out on some great features especialy when they are new to the game.
You know how it works in peoples minds if a game is free and somewhere there's an option where you can pay to get extra's, they might feel they only get half the game for free
wich is not true ofcourse.
Don't forget that you have the option to give away 2 try outs per season, that might help.
To me an option to just donate would be nice but I think Osca doesn't want to have to rely on a few people who pay more wich I understand since it is better to have a lot of
supporters that pay the normal fee.
So it's a thin line between being to agressive and to little advertisement and personaly I think it's up to us the players to make non suporters see how much effort Osca puts in this great game wich
is well worth the donation to become supporter.  :)
Don't forget there's also people playing that simply can't affort it for many reasons.

If you have some teams you are helping and they seem to have learned the basics you can show them the extra options by giving them the try out and maybe explain how this game
is running on a home server by a single man who has a full time job and a family. ;)
Oh and point them to me if they want a cool shirt for free.  :D  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on September 16, 2015, 08:46:19 pm
This is about the green jersey and its points

Why are you getting double points in some tour stages ?
Tonight i won the sprint in division 2b and received 45 points for the green jersey according to the race report...but in the green jersey standings i have received 90 points ?...is this a bug ?

I ask because this also happened in the tour Stage 10, giro stage 1 and vuelta Portugal stage 3

I also checked after vuelta stage 2 and there was only awarded 45 points in both race report and green jersey standings.

It happens in all divisions as far as i can see
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 16, 2015, 09:21:47 pm
People some time ago thought that sprinters must have advantage for green shirt and for this all stages that have green last section has double points
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on September 16, 2015, 09:47:43 pm
People some time ago thought that sprinters must have advantage for green shirt and for this all stages that have green last section has double points

Thanks for your answer Osca it makes sence...but you should change the points giving in the race report to avoid confusion :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JoepJJ on September 17, 2015, 05:06:55 pm
Is there something wrong with the site? I get an loading error all the time since 3 days ago. It also says : ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

I read on Dutch forum more people got the problem. It also happens on the forum. You get the error and then about 5-10 seconds the page loads again.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 17, 2015, 06:14:43 pm
Is there something wrong with the site? I get an loading error all the time since 3 days ago. It also says : ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

I read on Dutch forum more people got the problem. It also happens on the forum. You get the error and then about 5-10 seconds the page loads again.

Umm, the server works as always and is the same in the game and in forum.
Maybe any problem with internet provider because forum version is the same than some months ago.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JoepJJ on September 22, 2015, 08:49:53 am
I don't know what it is.. i still got the problem a lot. Very annoying.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on September 22, 2015, 12:42:24 pm
Idon't have these problems. I run Mozilla.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on September 22, 2015, 07:59:58 pm
Idon't have these problems. I run Mozilla.

It's not browser related when you get time outs.
On my phone I have problems through wifi but not when I switch to my provider.
Time out's usaly happen when a server is extreem busy but I get time outs at 5am as much as I do during the day and/or evening.

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on September 22, 2015, 08:03:22 pm
I connect out of home from mobile or pc at different hours and I never got this error.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on September 23, 2015, 08:08:55 pm
It seems gone now for me, both in the game as on the forum.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: JoepJJ on September 24, 2015, 08:25:34 am
Yes for me to yesterday.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on September 24, 2015, 02:02:23 pm
What happens after the season?? This is my first season. I started about 1 and a half month ago. Do I have to wait for fays before the next season to start or just like the race after race time. Last question. Im 3rd on my division 4c1 and im on the green(top 5) what does that mean???  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Fingolfin on September 24, 2015, 02:15:12 pm
Teams in the green zone will advance to the next division. So next season you will be riding in one of the 3rd divisions.
Friday night everthing will update (you will be placed in a 3rd division, with taxes paid and money gained). Sunday will be the first CFF-cup race and race for the National Teams. Monday morning will be the first race of the season, for which you can enroll your riders starting saturday.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on September 24, 2015, 02:42:33 pm
What happens after the season?? This is my first season. I started about 1 and a half month ago. Do I have to wait for fays before the next season to start or just like the race after race time. Last question. Im 3rd on my division 4c1 and im on the green(top 5) what does that mean???  ;D

Yes and most important of all the calendar will be the same as this season. So you can plan in advance: buying, training and planing for the next season. And the season after that.

Strategy and planing are the keywords in this game  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on September 24, 2015, 05:14:04 pm
Are the cyclist improving after the season.

What are tips in training
 :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on September 24, 2015, 06:32:17 pm
No, they do not improve.
But their health will go to 95 at the start of season.
Tips for training is to get the right staff on saturday and sunday, since you can fire staff for free after season end and season start.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 24, 2015, 09:12:34 pm
Are the cyclist improving after the season.

What are tips in training
 :D

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/board,24.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on September 25, 2015, 01:40:00 pm
Are the cyclist improving after the season.

What are tips in training
 :D

Yes don't use to much money at first and staff shouldn't be useful in 4th division. Get a mentor who can help you find 2 good free signings.
The game is a little complicated at first sight. So read the FAQ's and learn. But don't be afraid to ask.
You found the way to the forum. That is the most important  ;)

From next season get some cheap 19 yo riders. Don't spend to much money on them and decide a main skill to train!
A main skill is on of five skills: Sprint, Cobblestone, Mountain, Hills or Time trial. Purchase 19 yo riders with skill from low 50 - and up. Don't spend more than 10.000 Euro on a rider. You will make mistakes. So these riders will be your trial and error! Let a mentor help you if you want to spend more cash on a rider!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on September 25, 2015, 03:12:12 pm
I want to use a World Challenge card but nothing happens when I click on a (on every) card.

What do i do wrong?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on September 25, 2015, 03:39:38 pm
I want to use a World Challenge card but nothing happens when I click on a (on every) card.

What do i do wrong?

You should press the active card button just above the card  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on September 25, 2015, 03:56:25 pm
I want to use a World Challenge card but nothing happens when I click on a (on every) card.

What do i do wrong?

You should press the active card button just above the card  ;)

...i feel so stupid...  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on September 25, 2015, 03:57:30 pm
It seems fine by me.

I don't have the every card though. That specific card might be the problem  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on September 25, 2015, 04:09:17 pm
how can i get a mentor? and how can i ask him/her about my problem
 :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on September 25, 2015, 09:12:06 pm
Yes don't use to much money at first and staff shouldn't be useful in 4th division.
From next season get some cheap 19 yo riders. Don't spend to much money on them and decide a main skill to train!
If he's getting 19 year olds, then the correct doctor & masseur is essential.

Essential Staff Skills
Doctor & Masseur: Cumulative Fatigue, then Recovery & Form.
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html

I'd rate cumulative fatigue essential regardless.

He should also read:
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1363.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on September 26, 2015, 05:40:16 am
how can the equipment can help in racing?? Do i have to buy new equipment per season?
 :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on September 26, 2015, 07:44:08 am
how can the equipment can help in racing?? Do i have to buy new equipment per season?
 :-\ :-\

Yes. But if you are in div 3 or 4 you can start with the cheapest equipment.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Foeke on October 06, 2015, 11:46:20 am
I dont know if it is an error, but if you race a race in the WC, everytime you press on go back (to try again) the roles are deleted.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 06, 2015, 12:21:37 pm
how can the equipment can help in racing?? Do i have to buy new equipment per season?
 :-\ :-\

Yes. But if you are in div 3 or 4 you can start with the cheapest equipment.
You don't even need equipment to race.  I've scored points in div1 without equipment, and this with a 26 year old who wasn't close to the favourites.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on October 06, 2015, 01:50:08 pm
how can the equipment can help in racing?? Do i have to buy new equipment per season?
 :-\ :-\

Yes. But if you are in div 3 or 4 you can start with the cheapest equipment.
You don't even need equipment to race.  I've scored points in div1 without equipment, and this with a 26 year old who wasn't close to the favourites.

Lol, what are you doing without equipment in 1a? You can buy a cheap bike and always is a bonus, if you score as 25º, you can score as20º, or 15º or better :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 07, 2015, 12:18:56 am
how can the equipment can help in racing?? Do i have to buy new equipment per season?
 :-\ :-\

Yes. But if you are in div 3 or 4 you can start with the cheapest equipment.
You don't even need equipment to race.  I've scored points in div1 without equipment, and this with a 26 year old who wasn't close to the favourites.

Lol, what are you doing without equipment in 1a? You can buy a cheap bike and always is a bonus, if you score as 25º, you can score as20º, or 15º or better :P
Yeah, but he was packing a few extra kilos after the off season, so I decided he needed to run the entire race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on October 22, 2015, 02:56:40 pm
Does anyone have recommendations for how to train this cyclist?

Stamina : 80   Sprint : 25   Climbing : 37
Flat : 80   Cobblestone : 34   Technique : 68
Downhill : 80   Hills : 100   Aggressiveness : 66
Time Trial : 20   Teamwork : 20
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: B.E-L on October 22, 2015, 02:58:53 pm
I think I should go with technique or teamwork
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on October 22, 2015, 03:09:50 pm
Does anyone have recommendations for how to train this cyclist?

Stamina : 80   Sprint : 25   Climbing : 37
Flat : 80   Cobblestone : 34   Technique : 68
Downhill : 80   Hills : 100   Aggressiveness : 66
Time Trial : 20   Teamwork : 20

I always say: check the Training Camp page to see what is the most (and 2nd/3rd) skill to train.

For this guy it would be Downhill and Stamina.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 22, 2015, 03:10:59 pm
I think I should go for either stamina or downhill and try to train him to 90 in both areas.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 23, 2015, 06:45:54 am
Does anyone have recommendations for how to train this cyclist?

Stamina : 80   Sprint : 25   Climbing : 37
Flat : 80   Cobblestone : 34   Technique : 68
Downhill : 80   Hills : 100   Aggressiveness : 66
Time Trial : 20   Teamwork : 20
What is your train training?  If your team is training any of those I've highlighted in red, train that.  Else maybe sell and find somebody who suits your team's training.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on October 23, 2015, 07:46:00 pm
Thanks for all of the replies.  I am currently training with a flat specialist but will be changing soon.  It was always clear to me that the next most important stats for this rider (after Hills) were stamina and downhill, though flat can also be quite important for some races.

If you imagine a Hill/Flat GV along the lines of: Stam. 0.15, Flat 0.12, Tech. 0.05, DH 0.12, Hill 0.42, Agg. 0.10, TW 0.03, then the GV benefits of the training possibilities for him right now are:

Stamina: 0.15 x 0.05 = 0.0075
Flat and Downhill: 0.12 x 0.05 = 0.006
Technique: 0.05 x 0.10 = 0.005
TW: 0.03 x 0.20 = 0.006

Then, assuming I change my training specialist to whichever stat I want, Stamina looks like the best bet.  But it takes only slight shifts in the GV to change the answer.  For example, if TW is 0.04 in the GV, then that looks like my best option.

It just seemed like I had arrived at one of those points in his training when the choice of what to train next was no longer so obvious.  Thanks again for all of the thoughts.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on October 23, 2015, 08:35:49 pm
I think it is the right approach.

This rider is a little problematic. Because he lack a little in the aggressiveness. So it would be better for him to aim for longer flatter hill stages (hence; stamina). And not so much up and down. He doesn't have and will not get a chance against the elite in an all blue and much up'n down hill stage!
Another option is to find the hill stages ending on a 5th blue section. But with a little flat/sprint at the last couple of frames at the profile. LBL and Veenendal etc. Maybe this is a long shot. I don't know the percentages for these hill stages.
But I once had a hill rider much like the one you mention with sprint around 60. He did it significant better in these races I mentioned.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 23, 2015, 08:58:16 pm
I disagree that his aggression is devastating for division 1.  Ok, he mightn't ever be number 1 in the CFF world, but it wouldn't stop him from getting top 10s.  My Todd Whisman has a shockingly dismal 40 aggression.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on October 23, 2015, 11:36:30 pm
I disagree that his aggression is devastating for division 1.  Ok, he mightn't ever be number 1 in the CFF world, but it wouldn't stop him from getting top 10s.  My Todd Whisman has a shockingly dismal 40 aggression.


I'm not saying that this type of rider doesn't stand a chance for something. He can make results. But I doubt it will be in a stage like I described above -> Brabrantsje, WC hill race etc. Therefor it makes way more sense to train stamina than anything else  :)
Longer and flat stages is also higher Team Work
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on October 24, 2015, 10:22:48 am
Noted an interesting tactic, if indeed it was done intentionally.

It is evident that a manager used more than 12 eps because four of his five riders had the (http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/incidencias/mazo.png) symbol in the final section (btw, what is it that that blue thing is supposed to be? is it a bluebird?)

It was for this stage

(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/firenze.jpg)

And in the fourth (flat) section, this team had 4 riders (in positions 2 thru 5) in the lead group of 13.

At the end of the race, all four finished @ :31 in 10th, 12th, 14th, and 16th places, with three having the aforementioned bluebird (or whatever) icon and one (the one in 12th) having the good-helper icon.  Maybe it was a mistake by this manager but somehow I don't think so.

Anyone ever use this more-than-12-ep tactic?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on October 24, 2015, 11:01:33 am
I would suggest that his cyclists lost 31 seconds in the last section because they used one too many eps, and most certainly cost him a podium (possibly 2x top 5).
Basis of this analysis is

(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/incidencias/gregario.png) is a sign of a top cyclist for Div2.  So team probably had at least 2 top cyclists for the race.
2nd place finisher wasn't a leader for that race (probably free role).
As such, team leader for BigRig had to be a top 2 potential.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on October 24, 2015, 11:26:06 am


(btw, what is it that that blue thing is supposed to be? is it a bluebird?)

it's a figure waving a hammer.  ;)

The man with the hammer:

Cycling folklore speaks of “The Man With the Hammer”.  He is a man who lurks around any corner and will unexpectedly bop you on the neck with his hammer.  He will cause you to go from smoothly spinning your pedals to pedaling squares and putting your bike in “reverse”.  The Man With the Hammer strikes when your mind takes more from legs than your body can provide.

Most endurance sports refer to this as “bonking”, but a bonk is something you can control by eating and measuring your effort.  But in cycling – because we don’t control our legs – we percieve this to be out of our control.  Cyclists can avoid him temporarily, but all cyclist are hit by him at one point or another in their careers.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pericox on October 28, 2015, 03:38:36 pm
El Hombre del Martillo!  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pericox on October 28, 2015, 03:41:12 pm
One anything question.
Most users have beautiful maillots in their forum profiles. And some also -supporters- in their team in the game. Where do you design those maillots? Can you recommend me any web page or tool to design maillots?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Fingolfin on October 28, 2015, 04:26:26 pm
One anything question.
Most users have beautiful maillots in their forum profiles. And some also -supporters- in their team in the game. Where do you design those maillots? Can you recommend me any web page or tool to design maillots?

Sonic makes them:http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1855.0.html (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1855.0.html)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: pericox on October 29, 2015, 12:30:41 pm
Thanks, I have asked him for one.  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 26, 2015, 04:13:33 pm
On the staff page, it says: "Motivation and Team Spirit improve your cyclists´ performance in the races; Team Spirit is important when the cyclists´ Teamwork skill is important in the race."

Is my assumption right, that a director's 'Team Spirit' stat has 0 influence on the performance of a cyclist in a Time Trial?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 26, 2015, 04:17:48 pm
On the staff page, it says: "Motivation and Team Spirit improve your cyclists´ performance in the races; Team Spirit is important when the cyclists´ Teamwork skill is important in the race."

Is my assumption right, that a director's 'Team Spirit' stat has 0 influence on the performance of a cyclist in a Time Trial?

Right
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on November 26, 2015, 09:51:58 pm
On the staff page, it says: "Motivation and Team Spirit improve your cyclists´ performance in the races; Team Spirit is important when the cyclists´ Teamwork skill is important in the race."

Is my assumption right, that a director's 'Team Spirit' stat has 0 influence on the performance of a cyclist in a Time Trial?

Right

Thanks Osca.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 30, 2015, 12:34:38 pm
When are the taxes applied exactly? Is that before promotion/relegation and before the start of the new season bonus. Is it before or after the points bonus?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 30, 2015, 01:46:46 pm
First are taxes, then money prizes.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 30, 2015, 01:49:34 pm
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on December 16, 2015, 09:39:23 am
I can't ride WC races anymore, anyone else having this problem?

Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 2621440) (tried to allocate 6291456 bytes) in C:\AppServ\www\cff\desafiando3.php on line 4413
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 16, 2015, 03:26:28 pm
Sometimes there are a lot of process in RAM and until server get free space to launch this process you see this error.
World challenge spend a lot of RAM
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 27, 2015, 09:58:11 pm
Re Domestiques:  Am I correct in assuming that the GV is the primary attribute affecting the quality of the domestique.  And does the sector bonus have any impact?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on December 31, 2015, 05:01:15 am
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/campitello.jpg)

For the captain, 5 ep for section 5 is a given.

But is it too risky to use less than seven EP on the other four sections e.g. 30035?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on December 31, 2015, 05:40:25 am
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/campitello.jpg)
For the captain, 5 ep for section 5 is a given.
But is it too risky to use less than seven EP on the other four sections e.g. 30035?
It depends on the quality of your captain, and the quality of the opposition.  It could be a risk using all available EP points, if you drag with you 40 cyclists who haven't.
But this is something you'll have to assess and gamble on.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on December 31, 2015, 08:07:53 am
It depends on the quality of your captain, and the quality of the opposition.  It could be a risk using all available EP points, if you drag with you 40 cyclists who haven't.
But this is something you'll have to assess and gamble on.

Thanks.  I will ponder taking the risk. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on December 31, 2015, 12:00:28 pm
Would this be a decent Tour rider? I know that all Tours are different, but would a rider like this be competitive in Division 1? Just to know if I am aiming for the correct training target...

Sta    80
Sp    66
Cli    94
Flat    81
Cob   48
Tech    75
Dow    78
Hill    78
Agg    53
TT    46
TW    33
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on December 31, 2015, 07:14:52 pm
Would this be a decent Tour rider? I know that all Tours are different, but would a rider like this be competitive in Division 1? Just to know if I am aiming for the correct training target...

Sta    80
Sp    66
Cli    94
Flat    81
Cob   48
Tech    75
Dow    78
Hill    78
Agg    53
TT    46
TW    33

Can't speak for Division 1.  Never been there.  But such a rider can win GC in Div 2, in the Giro, for example.  I say this because my captain currently sits #2 in the Giro in Div 2 but his numbers are a tad lower than the ones you posted.

My guess is that a big factor, especially in Div 1, is experience.  Gotta be 100, or close to it, to have a chance to do well with the top dogs.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 11, 2016, 02:44:45 am
You can remove a rider from the transfer list if he has no bids and with 3 days left!

Why can't you remove a rider from transfer if he has no bids and with 2 days or 1 day left?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 11, 2016, 08:14:47 am
You can remove a rider from the transfer list if he has no bids and with 3 days left!

Why can't you remove a rider from transfer if he has no bids and with 2 days or 1 day left?
Because it is only if you have a mistake and you put a cyclist on sale and you didn't want it.
Sometimes people click on a different cyclist that they wanted.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on January 28, 2016, 04:54:44 pm
When did the envelope change in the sent icons?
It looks different than usual for me.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 28, 2016, 05:53:22 pm
When did the envelope change in the sent icons?
It looks different than usual for me.  :)

It was an update in past week. Now different icon if the team has readed the message.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Telamon on January 31, 2016, 10:08:22 am
Osca, last seasons I was coach of Holland U21. Ive made printscreens of the tacticspage to save all information including weather.

I have noticed that the weather icons are different when I use the 'See National Team races' option on the 'National Teams'page.

In fact: In season 24 we had in stage 8 Delta Profronde Zeeland. In my printscreens I notice that the weather icon was Cold / 0C

But when I use the 'See National Team races' option http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/replayint21.php?temporada=24&etapa=8&tramo=1 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/replayint21.php?temporada=24&etapa=8&tramo=1)
the weather was Rainy and 12C.

I see in a lot (or all?) other races Ive checked the same thing happening.

What is going wrong?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 31, 2016, 03:10:17 pm
Weather is not stored , I think you see the weather we have this season
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 12, 2016, 12:54:50 pm
I was wondering what kind of tactics are used by the engine in the draft races? Do they all ride with the same one?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RealityCyclists on February 12, 2016, 02:48:14 pm
And 1 more question for Osca: With the NT elections, does only your first vote-click count or only the last time u clicked the 'vote-button'?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 12, 2016, 03:21:50 pm
And 1 more question for Osca: With the NT elections, does only your first vote-click count or only the last time u clicked the 'vote-button'?

Only first time.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Deshain on February 12, 2016, 04:40:57 pm
I was wondering what kind of tactics are used by the engine in the draft races? Do they all ride with the same one?
Best question this year!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 12, 2016, 04:43:41 pm
I was wondering what kind of tactics are used by the engine in the draft races? Do they all ride with the same one?
Best question this year!

No tactics, global value only . Skills x % influence of every skill in the race
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 12, 2016, 11:10:29 pm
Thanks Osca. Interesting information :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on February 15, 2016, 09:43:38 am
Right now the top 5 for the stage of tomorrow are:

- Barnetta
- Dethier
- Zoetemelk
- Vaudet
- De Klerk

How is it possible I can challenge Barnetta, Vaudet and de Klerk (with Dethier), but Zoetemelk is missing?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 15, 2016, 09:47:08 am
Perhaps because Zoetemelk already has an accepted challenge.

The other possibility is because he is a secret ninja.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on February 15, 2016, 09:48:43 am
Perhaps because Zoetemelk already has an accepted challenge.

The other possibility is because he is a secret ninja.

Sometimes the answer is so obvious :P

I guess I have to challenge Barnetta instead :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 15, 2016, 09:51:49 am
Yeah, i know. He is not really a secret ninja anymore :(
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on February 23, 2016, 05:22:49 am
What causes a rider to get this "made a big attack during the section" icon? (http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/incidencias/attack.png)

Is it because he has the highest GV for the section and goes full gas?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 23, 2016, 06:58:09 am
What causes a rider to get this "made a big attack during the section" icon? (http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/incidencias/attack.png)

Is it because he has the highest GV for the section and goes full gas?

Full effort, good helper and very very high luck factor
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 24, 2016, 10:10:44 am
In the world challenges i just got up to leve 2 and received a 4 star card for winning my first race. Now i have got some of those 4 star cards at level 1 but i was wondering if i was lucky or if the rewards for winning at higher levels are better?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 24, 2016, 02:41:26 pm
Higher level more possibility better card. And this season as I said luck is increased 30% for getting better cards in all levels.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 24, 2016, 02:57:05 pm
Ok! Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 25, 2016, 08:00:27 am
Another world challenge question: the records are they reset every season or are they all time?

The teamname you see when you mouse over the stage.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 25, 2016, 08:04:14 am
Every season
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 25, 2016, 08:04:39 am
Ok!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on March 08, 2016, 07:57:27 pm
I entered cyclist for the giro tour. But the game says 2 days still in training camp, not sure if they will be ready to race? But when I entered it said their first race will be Race 1 of Giro.
Confused. Is 1am 1 day and 7am another day?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 08, 2016, 08:47:24 pm
I entered cyclist for the giro tour. But the game says 2 days still in training camp, not sure if they will be ready to race? But when I entered it said their first race will be Race 1 of Giro.
Confused. Is 1am 1 day and 7am another day?

After 1.am 1 day, after 7am ready to the Giro .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: AJFactoryCycling on March 08, 2016, 09:49:50 pm
If i click on the chat i don't go to the log-in as usual but the site of the chathispano? How is that possible?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on March 09, 2016, 11:42:59 am
I entered cyclist for the giro tour. But the game says 2 days still in training camp, not sure if they will be ready to race? But when I entered it said their first race will be Race 1 of Giro.
Confused. Is 1am 1 day and 7am another day?

After 1.am 1 day, after 7am ready to the Giro .

Thanks for explaining how the days are counted down.
They are indeed ready to race the Giro :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on March 10, 2016, 08:09:23 am
Does Health have any influence on training?
If health is less than 50, then the rider rests automatically. But is there any limit like "if health is below X, training efficiency Y% (less than 100%) ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 10, 2016, 09:37:20 am
No, only form :) You should keep that above 90.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 14, 2016, 01:53:57 am
@ oska

Are there any chance that you can see how many teams have changed nationality in CFF with the world challenge card?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 14, 2016, 08:17:19 am
@ oska

Are there any chance that you can see how many teams have changed nationality in CFF with the world challenge card?

I don't save it
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on March 14, 2016, 07:13:58 pm
What is the difference when sprinting for a intermediate sprint and final sprint?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on March 15, 2016, 07:48:21 am
how does a record get broken? In stage 9 the stage winner in div1 had a speed of 44.07km/u while the record of this stage is 44.00 km/u.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 15, 2016, 08:39:35 am
@Themasterofcm : Intermediate takes the value with value in the section +effort in the section + ( mix sprint-plain-agg).
The final takes role, global value for the stage, effort + energy.


@wacco: Km/h was made by an old Cff user and only takes the value of the cyclist skills and the % influence of these skills in the stage.
If a cyclist in 2nd has better km/h than one in 1st is sure because by skills he is better for the stage.

But the record we have is a value as example 34253,324 , and it is not only the value for the stage, in this value tactic is important (role and helping bonus), the speed of the race ( luck with groups in sections), different bonuses ( climate, staff, bike).
At end of the race we have a value and this is Cff-Record, km/h only is a visual effect because we don't have race time, only a value.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on March 15, 2016, 01:52:19 pm
Isn't it better to remove the km/h then? Now you think the speed is the criteria but actually it isn't.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on March 15, 2016, 02:26:36 pm
Would be strange if you see 11903,98 instead of kph :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on March 15, 2016, 02:38:18 pm
Would be strange if you see 11903,98 instead of kph :P
It just need another unit description.
I would say bananas is the best new description  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 15, 2016, 04:03:19 pm
LOL
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on March 15, 2016, 04:15:33 pm
Would be strange if you see 11903,98 instead of kph :P

true but the kph is just wrong, and yes bananas is fine. Or just no number and just the fact of the record instead of a speed which is just part of.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 15, 2016, 04:18:09 pm
When we added km/h no records in Cff.
We only put 0.00 the 1st and after the rest 0:02, 0:06...
It could change although until now never I have a better thing
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 21, 2016, 11:56:14 am
Am i wrong if this was the old quotients for pulling talents. (discussed years back or was it one of my many CFF dreams)
19 years: 20%
20 years: 30%
21 years: 30%
22 years: 20%

Can you reveal the new ones. If that is a secret no problem  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 21, 2016, 12:26:00 pm
I know the prizes on some 19 yo are way over the top. But it will still be old consolidated teams with a lot of money who grab the best riders. I am not sure what I spend on my new generation season 25. But I had 40 million left to spend after I have purchased the last rider in season 25. Money in CFF is not a problem. If I needed 100 millions I would have sold riders for 100 millions no problem.
If I'm gonna sit on my chair for almost 2 years and watch my young riders pop. I want the best of ......

I can't see this change will make it any different. I'm not against this change especially. Just the argumentation seem wrong  ???
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on April 21, 2016, 01:55:23 pm
Am i wrong if this was the old quotients for pulling talents. (discussed years back or was it one of my many CFF dreams)
19 years: 20%
20 years: 30%
21 years: 30%
22 years: 20%

Can you reveal the new ones. If that is a secret no problem  ;)

the new pulling system will be here in one season no? So not next week but in eleven weeks?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on April 21, 2016, 06:38:21 pm
I think it will be in eleven weeks.

@TeamSolex - I believe this change is coming because of one of my suggestions
Hi,
I think that it should only be made possible to promote 19 and 20y old riders. I have never seen a 21y old promoted rider being good enough to catch up to his peers.
The price can be increased for promoting riders, if this changed is made, to whatever you think is reasonable for drafting riders in the 19 & 20y old age range.
Or perhaps you must be able to select the possible age range, examples: 19-22 for 1000 gold, 19-21 for 5000 gold, 19-20 for 20 000 gold and 19 for 50 0000 gold.

I still think this will be a good change.
1. Smaller nations with a few managers pulling will be able to get a better generation of riders (in terms of number of decent riders - better depth).
2. New managers without much money can more easily start a decent generation of riders from his own country.
3. The rich folk can still get the best draft riders with their too much monies  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 21, 2016, 06:55:05 pm
Am i wrong if this was the old quotients for pulling talents. (discussed years back or was it one of my many CFF dreams)
19 years: 20%
20 years: 30%
21 years: 30%
22 years: 20%

Can you reveal the new ones. If that is a secret no problem  ;)

I think it has always been a 25% chance for all.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on April 21, 2016, 09:31:38 pm
In eleven weeks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on April 22, 2016, 01:49:30 am
Am i wrong if this was the old quotients for pulling talents. (discussed years back or was it one of my many CFF dreams)
19 years: 20%
20 years: 30%
21 years: 30%
22 years: 20%
Can you reveal the new ones. If that is a secret no problem  ;)
I think it has always been a 25% chance for all.
It wasn't the same.  19 & 22 year old pulls were definitely less common than 20-21 year olds.  I tracked 119 pulls some seasons ago.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 22, 2016, 11:12:06 am
Am i wrong if this was the old quotients for pulling talents. (discussed years back or was it one of my many CFF dreams)
19 years: 20%
20 years: 30%
21 years: 30%
22 years: 20%
Can you reveal the new ones. If that is a secret no problem  ;)
I think it has always been a 25% chance for all.
It wasn't the same.  19 & 22 year old pulls were definitely less common than 20-21 year olds.  I tracked 119 pulls some seasons ago.

A 119 pulls can still be skewed and isnt a large enough pool. But there is one man who knows the answer ;p
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 22, 2016, 10:23:17 pm

I still think this will be a good change.
1. Smaller nations with a few managers pulling will be able to get a better generation of riders (in terms of number of decent riders - better depth).
2. New managers without much money can more easily start a decent generation of riders from his own country.
This sound very much like the spirit of the game :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on April 25, 2016, 03:49:03 pm
I went to the World Challenge page and see that I have zero races left for today.  Did the system not regenerate the new races for today?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 25, 2016, 04:07:40 pm
Its always strange this first weekend. It seems that it only updates tonight. So from seasons end until monday you have 3 shots. Was the same last season i noticed.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on April 25, 2016, 07:28:49 pm
Yeah, the first weekend is really strange, but I didn't notice that before.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 25, 2016, 10:55:29 pm
Maybe a little manual work that causes this anomaly  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 26, 2016, 06:36:05 am
The listed favorites for a race are based on highest GV? 

Or is it based on GV + exp + equip + staff + etc, etc, etc?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 26, 2016, 08:16:05 am
Just GV. All the other bonusses are added after in the "race" GV.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on April 26, 2016, 08:40:58 am
Just GV. All the other bonusses are added after in the "race" GV.
Okay, thanks. 

Would be interesting to see the favorites for NT, U21, and U23 races.   Would that be possible?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on April 26, 2016, 08:45:04 am
That would be cool indeed.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on April 26, 2016, 02:19:17 pm
Just GV. All the other bonusses are added after in the "race" GV.
Okay, thanks. 

Would be interesting to see the favorites for NT, U21, and U23 races.   Would that be possible?
It would give to much information up to a race and will not be added  :D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on April 26, 2016, 03:56:32 pm
WIC - How come you didn't reduce the bid to 1 Euro instead of 7 million?

Osca - How come there isn't an option to delete a Transfer Bid??
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on April 26, 2016, 06:52:05 pm
WIC - How come you didn't reduce the bid to 1 Euro instead of 7 million?

 ???

I really have no clue what you are talking about?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 26, 2016, 07:22:56 pm
WIC - How come you didn't reduce the bid to 1 Euro instead of 7 million?

 ???

I really have no clue what you are talking about?

Long long time ago you put up a bid on a cyclists, not a good one  ;D, wich cost you all your money back then?
I can't even remember the exact details but I think that's what he is talking about.
It's probably somewhere in this topic still?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: AJFactoryCycling on April 26, 2016, 07:25:09 pm
Yeah on page 1  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on April 26, 2016, 07:50:44 pm
haha, I was to lazy to search in wich case it's always on page 1. :P

So the answer is that the asking prices was lets say 6M and WIC bid on him by mistake.
By trying to avoid getting him he needed to bid something he couldn't pay.
So he made his bid all the money he had and after that he signed up cyclists for the next race to have less money then the bid.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on April 26, 2016, 08:38:21 pm
haha, I was to lazy to search in wich case it's always on page 1. :P

So the answer is that the asking prices was lets say 6M and WIC bid on him by mistake.
By trying to avoid getting him he needed to bid something he couldn't pay.
So he made his bid all the money he had and after that he signed up cyclists for the next race to have less money then the bid.

Ah, that was a long time ago, lol.

It was like Sonic said, I thought I didn't have enoufh money but forgot that I received 25k prize money in the cff cup just 3 hours before the buy. Expensive mistake, but in the end, the cyclist helped me promote the next season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on April 26, 2016, 08:58:23 pm
Haha, that mistake is really gold! ;D

Now, if you'll excuse me I need to go discuss something with my brand new team-director, since I couldn't do that for a whole season... ::)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on April 27, 2016, 05:21:00 pm
Haha, that mistake is really gold! ;D

Now, if you'll excuse me I need to go discuss something with my brand new team-director, since I couldn't do that for a whole season... ::)

 ;D ;D

We all have made our mistakes. #LifeLongLearning...  8)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on April 28, 2016, 05:26:57 am
Oooops....must have been stuck on page 1.  My bad.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on April 28, 2016, 01:41:30 pm
Oooops....must have been stuck on page 1.  My bad.

Nevermind. Always good to be reminded that even I am human.  8)

 :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on May 11, 2016, 06:08:12 pm
Are the drafts happening tonight or tomorrow night ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on May 11, 2016, 06:15:50 pm
Are the drafts happening tonight or tomorrow night ?

In the update after race 32 so 13th of may at 01.00. So tomorrownight
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: guindillas on May 18, 2016, 01:51:10 am
I'm a new player and I don't know if it's possible to fire a cyclist as he is in the market.

I sell him but right now I want to fire him. But I don't want to wait 2 more days.

That's possible? How can I do it?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on May 18, 2016, 02:34:37 am
I'm a new player and I don't know if it's possible to fire a cyclist as he is in the market.

I sell him but right now I want to fire him. But I don't want to wait 2 more days.

That's possible? How can I do it?

Thanks
Welcome to the game  :)
You have to wait until the days at the transfer expires
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: guindillas on May 18, 2016, 06:04:26 am
I'm a new player and I don't know if it's possible to fire a cyclist as he is in the market.

I sell him but right now I want to fire him. But I don't want to wait 2 more days.

That's possible? How can I do it?

Thanks
Welcome to the game  :)
You have to wait until the days at the transfer expires

Ok, thanks mate!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on May 23, 2016, 07:35:04 pm
Still. Updating?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on May 23, 2016, 07:42:30 pm
Still. Updating?

From the spanish forum by translator  ;D

The game gave memory error just before the stage and agreed with this, so he was blocked.
I'm away from home, particularly in the holidays of my people, now can not go but in about 3 hours hope to escape and launch stage .
Sorry for the error. PS If anyone can post it in English
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on June 01, 2016, 06:31:14 am
According to the English version, drafts pulls are supposed to have happened after Stage 65. Is that a typo...?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on June 01, 2016, 06:39:39 am
According to the English version, drafts pulls are supposed to have happened after Stage 65. Is that a typo...?

Nope, it's right. New drafts will emerge in the game at 7.00 AM (CET). In 20 minutes from now.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on June 01, 2016, 08:18:17 pm
I think I am missing something. Is there a post with the daily schedule ? (transfers, trainings, drafts, and so on)
I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ. There are pieces in the FAQ (like this one regarding the youth pull) (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,843.0.html), but not the whole picture
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on June 01, 2016, 08:25:11 pm
I think I am missing something. Is there a post with the daily schedule ? (transfers, trainings, drafts, and so on)
I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ. There are pieces in the FAQ (like this one regarding the youth pull) (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,843.0.html), but not the whole picture
Fair question.

Regular daily schedule:

01:00 - training and transfers
05:00 - race
07:00 - training
19:00 - race

The drafts are an exception that can take place at either the the training of 01:00 or the one at 07:00. Since this draft round took place after race 65, the first training (and therefore draft update uption) was the the one at 07:00.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on June 01, 2016, 09:36:27 pm
I think I am missing something. Is there a post with the daily schedule ? (transfers, trainings, drafts, and so on)
I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ. There are pieces in the FAQ (like this one regarding the youth pull) (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,843.0.html), but not the whole picture
Fair question.

Regular daily schedule:

01:00 - training and transfers
05:00 - race
07:00 - training
19:00 - race

The drafts are an exception that can take place at either the the training of 01:00 or the one at 07:00. Since this draft round took place after race 65, the first training (and therefore draft update uption) was the the one at 07:00.

Then here comes the next question: did we have the 1st race of the new draft immediately after that...? Say at 7:01...? :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on June 01, 2016, 10:54:27 pm
I think I am missing something. Is there a post with the daily schedule ? (transfers, trainings, drafts, and so on)
I can't seem to find anything in the FAQ. There are pieces in the FAQ (like this one regarding the youth pull) (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,843.0.html), but not the whole picture
Fair question.

Regular daily schedule:

01:00 - training and transfers
05:00 - race
07:00 - training
19:00 - race

The drafts are an exception that can take place at either the the training of 01:00 or the one at 07:00. Since this draft round took place after race 65, the first training (and therefore draft update uption) was the the one at 07:00.

Then here comes the next question: did we have the 1st race of the new draft immediately after that...? Say at 7:01...? :)

Yup, as soon as the draft round is done the first race of the next draft is also done, same update.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on June 02, 2016, 02:53:16 pm
Does anyone know what the issue is with the game updating?  This is like the 4th time this has happened just this season.  Fortunately I can still get a lineup in for the TDF, but it has screwed with my training setup.  This could have an impact on the GC and overall outcome of the season.  Maybe there should be a way to setup training schedules days in advance like we can our lineups. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: RaboRuben on June 02, 2016, 04:09:18 pm
Does anyone know what the issue is with the game updating?  This is like the 4th time this has happened just this season. 
What do you mean? Game works fine here.
Quote
Fortunately I can still get a lineup in for the TDF, but it has screwed with my training setup.  This could have an impact on the GC and overall outcome of the season.  Maybe there should be a way to setup training schedules days in advance like we can our lineups.
You can. A bit complicated. But you can set up training for about 20 races in advance in the 'sign up for coming races' screen and then click 'training' next to each race. The changes you make there will be implemented after that particular race.
So if you want a rider to be fully rested in race 70, you can put him on rest in that training option after race 69 and put him back on his training using the same option for after race 70.
Not the easiest function in the game but I have used it plenty of times before I went on holiday.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: combuijs on June 02, 2016, 04:24:45 pm
Thanks for that RaboRuben, never realised it worked that way!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on June 03, 2016, 05:16:59 am
I didn't realize it worked that way either.  Thanks for that tip! 

Unfortunately it looks like the system is stuck again.

CYCLING FOR FUN IS UPDATING , TRY AGAIN IN A FEW MINUTES
EL JUEGO SE ESTÁ ACTUALIZANDO, PRUEBA DE NUEVO DENTRO DE UNOS MINUTOS

The system usually finishes the update by 11:03pm (local time).  It is now 11:16pm.  This is the 2nd night in a row.  The training session goes at 1:00am local time.  Last night the system was still updating at 1:30am.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 05, 2016, 01:08:45 am
I accidentally put somebody on the transfer list instead of the minimum offer list, and didn't initially notice.  It's still 3 days to go, but can't remove.  Is this because somebody jumped in and put in a bid?

Duke Pinkney
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=640071
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on June 05, 2016, 04:04:13 am
What does it say on transfer page? Any bids there?
You can't remove if there are any bids.
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/bucca.php (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/bucca.php)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on June 05, 2016, 09:28:14 am
What happens when you have are a "fan" of a team?
Do you get notified of all sales?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on June 05, 2016, 10:51:27 am
What happens when you have are a "fan" of a team?
Do you get notified of all sales?

No, nothing really happens with notifications.

In the CFF-cup though, all favourite teams are highlighted, that's useful.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on June 10, 2016, 04:24:51 am
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/lissonegiro.jpg)
ST11 SP15 CL8 FL20 TQ10 DH10 HL10 AG8 TW8

Any thoughts on the above GV calcs?  Has this course been raced before?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on June 10, 2016, 08:23:45 am
I would rate sprint a lot higher. This really is a sprint stage with very little climbing, a bit of downhill and quite a lot of hills. The closer obstacles are to the finish the more they count in the GV.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: AJFactoryCycling on June 10, 2016, 08:56:30 am
I guess my rider Kenny Jons can be the leader there? ^^
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on June 10, 2016, 09:20:38 am
I had this one some months ago:

Fausto Braga   Edad : 30   Sueldo : 836
Resistencia : 56   Sprint : 100   Montaña : 27
LLano : 87   Pavés : 55   Tecnica : 81
Descenso : 75   Colinas : 43   Agresividad : 66

Crono : 13   TraEqui : 65   Experiencia : 88

Perfect for this race.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on June 10, 2016, 12:18:49 pm
I guess my rider Kenny Jons can be the leader there? ^^

Maybe if he had more hills.   But we shall see.

Kenny Jons   (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) Age : 31   Wage : 2244
??

Maybe AJ doesn't want you to show his stats in public?  :-X
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on June 10, 2016, 12:22:25 pm
I guess my rider Kenny Jons can be the leader there? ^^

Maybe if he had more hills.   But we shall see.

Kenny Jons   (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/usa.jpg) Age : 31   Wage : 2244
??

Maybe AJ doesn't want you to show his stats in public?  :-X

----

No bids for all 3! Get your stage wins in 1a!!!

The best climbsprint duo in this game for sale! Will win stages for you in every division. In lower division they will be even useful as pure sprinters and flatclimbers:

(http://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sprintbronce.jpg)(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/imagenes/montanabronce.jpg)
Austin Albright   Age : 33   Wage : 2276
Stamina : 72   Sprint : 94   Climbing : 93
Flat : 90
   Cobblestone : 35   Technique : 66
Downhill : 62
   Hills : 24   Aggressiveness : 59
Time Trial : 18   Teamwork : 22   Experience : 87
Price : 2 000 000   Days left : 3   Stages raced : 0

(http://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/montanaplata.jpg)(http://cyclingforfun.org/cff/imagenes/sprintbronce.jpg)
Kenny Jons   Age : 31   Wage : 1576
Stamina : 80   Sprint : 90   Climbing : 93
Flat : 85
   Cobblestone : 38   Technique : 71
Downhill : 73
   Hills : 13   Aggressiveness : 20
Time Trial : 11   Teamwork : 81   Experience : 100
Price : 3 500 000   Days left : 3   Stages raced : 0

Also, a 19y flatclimber:

Ramon Storm   Age : 19   Wage : 582
Stamina : 56   Sprint : 24   Climbing : 62
Flat : 49
   Cobblestone : 24   Technique : 52
Downhill : 25   Hills : 6   Aggressiveness : 6
Time Trial : 0   Teamwork : 73   Experience : 0
Price : 1   Days left : 3   Stages raced : 0
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on June 10, 2016, 12:53:23 pm
Good research, Thorin  8)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on June 10, 2016, 07:38:55 pm
Maybe AJ doesn't want you to show his stats in public?  :-X
Yes, you're right.  Should not have shown the stats as I did.   Apologies to AJ. 
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on June 11, 2016, 02:37:37 am
Maybe AJ doesn't want you to show his stats in public?  :-X
Yes, you're right.  Should not have shown the stats as I did.   Apologies to AJ.
Could possibly be able to use the delete post function.

Done and gone.   :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on June 11, 2016, 11:09:23 am
Good job and good luck in the race tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: AJFactoryCycling on June 11, 2016, 12:34:53 pm
Owh no problem kekipi, the stats of my cyclists are no secret ^^ If someone sees the stat of my cyclists they get scared  8)

But good luck tommorow ;0
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on June 11, 2016, 12:54:46 pm
Owh no problem kepiki, the stats of my cyclists are no secret ^^ If someone sees the stat of my cyclists they get scared  8)

But good luck tommorow ;0

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on July 03, 2016, 02:37:29 pm
Im confuse on how the the rider will improve. Is training the only option?

If that is the only way, I clicked the climbing information of my rider on the training page and it has number 0.16, what that means?


Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on July 03, 2016, 02:51:58 pm
Yes. Thats the only way. The 0.15 mean that every training his climbing skill will increase by that number. So after 6 or 7 trainings you will see his skill one point higher.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on July 03, 2016, 03:24:29 pm
What does Staffs do. I ask my helper that it is not necessary to get staffs in 3rd div and 4th div.

Also the equipment. Is it necessary to get one?

Im at 3rd div
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on July 03, 2016, 07:59:13 pm
Hi Edbortos

I would say that you should be looking into getting a good Doctor & Masseur if you want to properly train the riders in your team.
There is a good faq which I recommend you read.

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html)

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on July 04, 2016, 03:11:10 am
Equipment and staff is not really necessary in Div4, but staff could help your results moving you up into Div3.  I started getting staff and equipment in Div3.  I hired the best staff I could for what I intended to do.  I recommend that you research your staff thoroughly.  Buy the best equipment you can afford and let your staff improve it.  I purchased Pinarello equipment this year and wound up with 66 stars due to my staff.  Can't say it enough, research you staff before hiring them.  Another thing, staff available changes with every training session or at draft time.  If you don't like what you see, wait for someone that catches your eye.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on July 04, 2016, 09:14:36 am
Hi Edbortos
I would say that you should be looking into getting a good Doctor & Masseur if you want to properly train the riders in your team.
There is a good faq which I recommend you read.

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1300.0.html)

Good Luck!
As Dirk says, absolutely doctor & masseur, with a combined cumulative fatigue score of at least 195.  If you have nothing else, have this.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on July 04, 2016, 04:36:09 pm
What category is more important Hills or Climb?


In a hilly stage does downhill gives a huge factor in the race?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on July 04, 2016, 05:17:51 pm
I don't get your first question.

On the second one, yes downhill is important in any hill stage.

Also, check the FAQ, lot of your questions are mentioned there
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 04, 2016, 05:27:07 pm
Esp, 1st and 2nd category ( mountain)
3rd and 4th ( hills)

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oldmen on July 04, 2016, 10:43:25 pm
I just noticed that my Sponsor challenges have been removed. I had at least two challenges that I was looking forward to completing this year. Anyone know what happened to them (i.e. Is it because I dropped back to D2 from D1?)
Thanks.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: combuijs on July 04, 2016, 11:35:28 pm
Same happened to me relegating from 2 to 3. A pity, I had my season built around those deals. Time to change things...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on July 05, 2016, 01:55:53 am
I just noticed that my Sponsor challenges have been removed. I had at least two challenges that I was looking forward to completing this year. Anyone know what happened to them (i.e. Is it because I dropped back to D2 from D1?)
Thanks.
Yes relegation and your sponsors run away  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on July 07, 2016, 02:58:40 pm
Is there aomething wrong with the transfer market?

Its been 2days of 1day remaining on the cylist i bet. What happend
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 07, 2016, 05:01:31 pm
Check this page, no problems with market.
Market is at 01:00 Cff-Time and you can see all days we have transfers.

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/traspasos.php (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/traspasos.php)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on July 12, 2016, 06:20:25 am
 Question: If Chris Froome would be in this game what would be his ratings?



Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: kekipi on July 12, 2016, 10:40:47 pm
Question: If Chris Froome would be in this game what would be his ratings?

Chris Froome   Age : 31  Wage : 12031
Stamina : 80   Sprint : 60    Climbing : 96
Flat : 80   Cobblestone : 60   Technique : 79
Downhill : 84   Hills : 79   Aggressiveness : 60
Time Trial : 60   Teamwork : 40   Experience : 100
Price :  20,000,000
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on July 12, 2016, 10:53:16 pm
Question: If Chris Froome would be in this game what would be his ratings?

Chris Froome   Age : 31  Wage : 12031
Stamina : 80   Sprint : 60    Climbing : 96
Flat : 80   Cobblestone : 60   Technique : 79
Downhill : 84   Hills : 79   Aggressiveness : 60
Time Trial : 60   Teamwork : 40   Experience : 100
Price :  20,000,000

Time trial would be so much better. Aggro a little less.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricard on July 12, 2016, 11:53:56 pm
Less sprint more flat.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on July 13, 2016, 08:11:15 pm
My personal point of view

Chris Froome   Age : 31  Wage : x
Stamina : 85   Sprint : 40    Climbing : 98
Flat : 85   Cobblestone : 40   Technique : 79
Downhill : 80   Hills : 65   Aggressiveness : 60
Time Trial : 80   Teamwork : 40   Experience : 95
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricard on July 13, 2016, 10:15:00 pm
Less sprint more flat.

Today he proved it  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on July 16, 2016, 09:52:55 pm
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/cartas/42.jpg)
on this page
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/cartas.php

It says: "Free 19 years old cyclist promotion"

Is it truly a 19 year old, or is it supposed to be u23?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on July 16, 2016, 10:08:50 pm
Guaranteed 19 yo. Thats why its 3 stars.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Edbertos on August 02, 2016, 04:54:33 pm
Does teamwork affects huge in the race.

Example:
I will participate in the grand tour and my domestiques has 50 or lower. How could that affect the performance of the team?


Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on August 02, 2016, 04:58:12 pm
Does teamwork affects huge in the race.

Example:
I will participate in the grand tour and my domestiques has 50 or lower. How could that affect the performance of the team?

One riders (domestique) teamwork skill does not affect another riders (leader) race.
Someone said (I think it was Aurora_Australis) that one should think of the teamwork skill as a rider's ability to draft from other riders in a race. So in Flat races where drafting is important, it will count more (e.g. 10%) but in a hilly race it does not matter as much (e.g. 3%).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 02, 2016, 11:27:22 pm
See this page for teamwork and other info
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,311.msg8386.html#msg8386
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Dirk on August 16, 2016, 05:32:58 pm
Hi Oska
Does aggression count any percentage (more than 0%) in mountain races such as Tour de France, Race 5.
Reason why I wonder, some of the climbs is category 4 and 2, which might count as a "hill" and the end is flat-ish so there might be some sprint % in the GV, and if there is sprint, then there might be aggression also. If it counts more than 0%, please let me know for which reason it is.

(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/albertville.jpg)

edit: and will the aggr definitely be 0 in a race like this one?:
(http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/etapas/cles.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oldmen on August 17, 2016, 06:08:09 am
It's happened again. I cannot login to the game. It gives me a message that the game is updating, wait a few minutes.  I have been waiting for just over an hour and still get the same message. Is there anything I can do fix this (login) or prevent it from happening in the future?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Cyclingboy on August 17, 2016, 06:26:38 am
No...there is nothing you can do about it other than wait for Oska to wake up which he usually does around 7 am...You can try send him a mail about the problem so he sees it as soon as he is awaken.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on August 17, 2016, 07:51:34 am
As I said in past a rare error, I change things in server and cff scripts but this night I see this error again.
I will continue changing code to avoid it but I read in forums that it is not easy because due we have now too many load in after race processes some scripts can have memory problems.

I only can put the database we had before the race, reload and after make the training process.

Sorry again.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oldmen on August 17, 2016, 04:07:09 pm
Thanks for the update. I appreciate your efforts in making this game so entertaining.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: tpfrier1975 on August 28, 2016, 05:00:42 am
I was having this problem every few days, not being able to log in and missing training and race effort input.  This was and still can be an inconvenience.   What I have done is to try and put in my efforts and training a couple days in advance, especially on tours or important races where I should get great results.  Unfortunately this is not fool proof either.  Sometimes the training gets overridden or my efforts get lost.  This just happened  to me for race 96.  I am out of town, so I put in my efforts for 96 and 97, saved them, and went back in to ensure they were saved, which they were.  When I checked the results today, it showed all Free Role and Watcher efforts.  I lost out big time as I should have had Zhelnov in the top 10 and 2 otherso in the points.  Now my tour is shot.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kalarratas on September 05, 2016, 10:26:15 pm
Do the World Challenge cards achieved so far vanish at the end of the season or are kept for the following season? Just in order to use them or not before the end of the current season

Thanks in advance guys!
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on September 06, 2016, 07:02:45 am
Do the World Challenge cards achieved so far vanish at the end of the season or are kept for the following season? Just in order to use them or not before the end of the current season

Thanks in advance guys!

you keep them
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on October 29, 2016, 08:43:00 pm
On my starting page it says that the next stage is on 30-10-2016 on 05:00. Shouldn't that be on 31-10?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on October 29, 2016, 10:32:13 pm
On my starting page it says that the next stage is on 30-10-2016 on 05:00. Shouldn't that be on 31-10?

Seems to be true. The countdown clock towards next race also suggests there is a race tonight at 5am. That shouldn't be...

Maybe the systen is confused because the clock is going back to wintertime in some european nations tonight? Winter is coming.  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on October 29, 2016, 11:46:34 pm
Just curious if training and transfers will take place then as well.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on October 30, 2016, 12:17:08 am
I'm sure it will be a normal day with transfer training etc. as it now  ;D

I can see in the race calendar that server think it is Saturday at this point? And server will skip races Monday as it usual does a "normal" Sunday. 

I'm confused now  :P
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on October 30, 2016, 09:33:51 am
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5HZSV2aX-dtHWA34PkTHLbsE76ffpthO2hBOn-akA-6VUrBlR)(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSsrKvQXNGl5OgzZAo3pRezu8rERjA8MEYOf8UI-yCbwiVHhqu)  :))
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on October 30, 2016, 12:40:19 pm
Haha great!

How far away is confused or would it be shorter to unsure  ;D

My techno fear are for real. These machines are really testing me these days.
I just had to search something. But there are this CAPTCHA code at the search site. Since over 60 percent of the internet traffic are made by bots. 
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg292/jepped/Selection_045305_zps1i9f87ai.png) Can you pass the test? (https://www.google.com)

No problem - My intentions are good. So Google are trying to bring these numbers down by telling humans and computers apart automatically ... But I failed. After typing the code the same site re-appear  :o
So failing a test like this does it equal me as a machine? I'm are heading for a retirement. Am I a benefit or a hazard...... arghh!!

Vangelis - Blush Response (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bNJpJGZqPo)

Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on October 30, 2016, 09:13:16 pm
you sound totally human to me, TeamSolex  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: AJFactoryCycling on November 05, 2016, 12:36:07 pm
Little question, if you put a rider on trainingcamp before the race from 5:00, is he going on trainingcamp right after this race at 5:00 itself or at 7:00 with the trainginsupdate? So it would also be possible to put someone between 5:00 and 7:00 at traingcamp. As example, I buy a rider sunday at 1:00 and want him with trainingcampbonus in Vattenfall, so normally I need to get send on traingincamp between 1:00 and 5:00, but can you also send him between 5:00 and 7:00 without losing a race? (so he will have traingingcamp bonus in Vattenfall and not from the race after Vattenfall).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 06, 2016, 07:49:14 am
I remember seeing a post with the maximum number of total skill points that a drafted rider can have (when drafted). Was there such a post, or was I dreaming ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 06, 2016, 09:21:30 am
Try in the FAQ section.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 06, 2016, 09:41:32 am
Try in the FAQ section.

That's the first place I looked, before posting here. There is a section on drafts, but this detail is not specified (or I must have missed the obvious)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2016, 12:17:13 pm
460 points iirc, 860 max salary for a new guy
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 06, 2016, 02:31:00 pm
460 points iirc, 860 max salary for a new guy

Yep, it's here http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1363.0.html (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1363.0.html)

Could maybe one of the mods add this info in the Drafts section of the FAQ... ? Just a thought :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 06, 2016, 02:35:51 pm
And speaking of the FAQ:

* Aggression
Aggression can't be trained directly [but does gain u23 bonus].
Every 10 points of hills or sprint up one of aggression.
Every 20 points of mountains, plains or stamina decreases aggression by one.


Does this actually mean that Agg increases 10% of Hills or Sprint increase ? Does this include the U23 bonus for Hills/Sprint ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: combuijs on November 06, 2016, 04:40:10 pm
And speaking of the FAQ:

* Aggression
Aggression can't be trained directly [but does gain u23 bonus].
Every 10 points of hills or sprint up one of aggression.
Every 20 points of mountains, plains or stamina decreases aggression by one.


Does this actually mean that Agg increases 10% of Hills or Sprint increase ? Does this include the U23 bonus for Hills/Sprint ?

Aggression 10% of hills/sprint increase? Yes!

U23 bonus is independant of Hills/Sprint, just about 2 levels per season.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on November 06, 2016, 05:05:42 pm
And speaking of the FAQ:

* Aggression
Aggression can't be trained directly [but does gain u23 bonus].
Every 10 points of hills or sprint up one of aggression.
Every 20 points of mountains, plains or stamina decreases aggression by one.


Does this actually mean that Agg increases 10% of Hills or Sprint increase ? Does this include the U23 bonus for Hills/Sprint ?

Aggression 10% of hills/sprint increase? Yes!

U23 bonus is independant of Hills/Sprint, just about 2 levels per season.

his question is if you get 2 levers per season in sprint/hills do you also get 0.2 points per season on aggro. Yes I think so is my answer.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 06, 2016, 06:58:02 pm
And speaking of the FAQ:

* Aggression
Aggression can't be trained directly [but does gain u23 bonus].
Every 10 points of hills or sprint up one of aggression.
Every 20 points of mountains, plains or stamina decreases aggression by one.


Does this actually mean that Agg increases 10% of Hills or Sprint increase ? Does this include the U23 bonus for Hills/Sprint ?

Aggression 10% of hills/sprint increase? Yes!

U23 bonus is independant of Hills/Sprint, just about 2 levels per season.

his question is if you get 2 levers per season in sprint/hills do you also get 0.2 points per season on aggro. Yes I think so is my answer.

Indeed, that was my question ;)
Do we have any official evidence for this ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 06, 2016, 08:56:09 pm
With the u23 bonus, aggression increases by 0.02% after every training session.  It's one of my FAQs, so I can edit it to make it clear :)
* Aggression
Aggression can't be trained directly.
Every 10 points of hills or sprint up one of aggression.
Every 20 points of mountains, plains or stamina decreases aggression by one.
 [aggression also gains u23 bonus - at the same rate as other skills]
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on November 06, 2016, 09:46:42 pm
With the u23 bonus, aggression increases by 0.02% after every training session.  It's one of my FAQs, so I can edit it to make it clear :)
* Aggression
Aggression can't be trained directly.
Every 10 points of hills or sprint up one of aggression.
Every 20 points of mountains, plains or stamina decreases aggression by one.
 [aggression also gains u23 bonus - at the same rate as other skills]
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html

Yes ok clear, but again I don't think that was the question. Does the 10% gain aggro also count for the u23 sprint bonus. So with the normal u23 bonus for aggro of aprox 2points  will you also gain 0.2 points for sprint and 0.2 points for hills minus 0.1 for stamina, plain and mountains.

So: a normal u23 bonus is 0.02 each training (2.36 over a whole season). Is this exactly the same for aggression or is this amount 0.021. (2.46 over a whole season) It is just a question of wanting to know because it won't make a big difference of 4 years.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 06, 2016, 11:02:28 pm
U23 bonus is the flat 2.something for all stats. It is technically not training. So no 110% u23 bonus for aggro.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 07, 2016, 09:39:41 pm
U23 bonus is the flat 2.something for all stats. It is technically not training. So no 110% u23 bonus for aggro.

Yet the FAQ says that for every 10 points increase in Sprint/Hills, you get 1 point increase in Aggro. Hills and Sprint increase roughly by a total of 16 points as U23 bonus. So does this correspond to an additional 1.6 increase in Aggro...? This was my question.

Or is the FAQ inaccurate on this topic ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: SonicCycling on November 07, 2016, 10:42:41 pm
Nope, 16 U23 bonus is 16 U23 bonus, no 10% extra U23 bonus on U23 bonus.
Lets say that you train 20 points on sprint/hill on that period you get 2 points agro on training and 16 U23 bonus so an increase of 18 total.
You want 10% of 20+16=3,6 and 16 U23 wich makes 19,6 wich is not true.

The bonus on bonus also would mean a bigger decrease in agro while training flat wich would be weird because then the bonus would be a punishment.  ;)




Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 08, 2016, 09:25:14 am
U23 bonus is the flat 2.something for all stats. It is technically not training. So no 110% u23 bonus for aggro.
Yet the FAQ says that for every 10 points increase in Sprint/Hills, you get 1 point increase in Aggro. Hills and Sprint increase roughly by a total of 16 points as U23 bonus. So does this correspond to an additional 1.6 increase in Aggro...? This was my question.
Or is the FAQ inaccurate on this topic ?
Quote FAQ.  Doesn't the last line have any importance?
Quote
* U23 Bonus
U23 cyclists gain 0.02 in every skill (all skills - including aggression, not just skill being trained [doesn't include experience]) per training session (regardless of whether the cyclist is training or resting).  This equals an increase of ≈2 per skill per season.
This is not affected by any other training bonuses or penalties.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 08, 2016, 02:14:27 pm
So wouldn't the FAQ be more accurate if it said:

"When training Sprint or Hills, Aggro also increases by 10% of the base increase for Sprint or Hills" ?
Because it is not "Every 10 points of hills or sprint up one of aggression. " It's "10 points without the U23 points..." and Only if you train Hills or Sprint(which the FAQ does not mention specifically; it just says that an increase in Hills/Sprint causes an increase in Aggro; and yes, one could interpret that as "any increase")

Just for the sake of clarity :)

But if the original FAQ writer believes it is clear enough as it is...
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 20, 2016, 06:04:25 pm
Regarding draft riders: how is their nationality decided ? Entirely random, (inverse) proportional to the number of managers or number of riders...?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 20, 2016, 06:59:19 pm
Random
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on November 22, 2016, 12:24:39 pm
It looks like prize money in 2a is similar as 1a and double of other 2nd divisions. Could be a bug I guess?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on November 22, 2016, 09:22:19 pm
Also for this last race, prize money in 2a is double that of other 2nd divisions.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on November 22, 2016, 11:05:22 pm
Checked and solved.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 24, 2016, 08:13:54 pm
When I sent my Sprinter to training camp, Milano-San-Remo was the race listed under the "Training camp"menu. But now I see that Next race is race 7, and my rider still has 14 days left from the TC. Following this, just before race 20 (San Remo), he'll have 1 more day of training camp. Will he be able to ride that race...?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on November 24, 2016, 10:35:00 pm
If MSR was shown then yes.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on November 28, 2016, 08:33:04 am
Is there a FAQ on the "Offers" ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oldmen on December 02, 2016, 07:24:17 am
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/cartas/35.jpg)

What good is this if I'm happy with my country?  Can I sell this to another manager? Poland need some assistance?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on December 02, 2016, 02:11:49 pm
Change Germany to Poland  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Foeke on December 07, 2016, 09:36:05 am
I think there is a bug in the spiderwebs  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on December 14, 2016, 06:32:39 pm
Even when disabling my AdBlocker, I keep getting messages that I need to disable it, anyone else have the same issue?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on December 14, 2016, 08:03:54 pm
Would like to know from osca if he can change it so that Supporters can just keep using AdBlock.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: wacco on December 14, 2016, 08:52:05 pm
Starting from today the same problem here
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 14, 2016, 09:47:31 pm
I'm testing.
I only see with received mails a lot of people that want free game, not advantages and not ads.
More of 90% of players aren't supporters.

Maybe I had to ad a payment for free gold, extra effort or a hammer in race .
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on December 14, 2016, 09:49:50 pm
Now it is off for everyone.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on December 14, 2016, 10:00:32 pm
It's good that you test different things I think. At the moment I like the things you get extra as supporter, they are all things that are not completely necessary to compete, but they definitely add something.

Maybe you can include absence of adverts in Supporter-features and have the site for non-Supporters with ads (the ones that you tried today)?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on December 15, 2016, 05:54:09 am
Even when disabling my AdBlocker, I keep getting messages that I need to disable it, anyone else have the same issue?
Just for the record: have you tried clearing the browser cache after disabling the ad-blockr ? For me it worked finefrom the first attempt.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Kazistuta on December 30, 2016, 05:07:06 pm
What are the odds?

We just started a new draft round, and the first day I added four riders to my favorites. The second time I got info on them, three of the four star levels was the same category as the day before.

That's a pretty big coincidence, but of course still mathematically possible. Does anyone have experienced anything like that? (my calculations says the probability was around 0,27 percent)

Happy new year, fellow number-geeks😁
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on January 13, 2017, 10:30:03 am
What are the channel for the chat in CFF community?

Or chat's dead too :o

(http://www.bridgefazio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/RIZON-PULP-FICTION-VISUALS-BRIEF-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on January 29, 2017, 12:55:22 am
(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/cartas/35.jpg)
For anybody interested in changing CFF countries, all you need to do is activate this card (if you have one), and you'll be asked which nation you want to go to.
Btw: Only works between season reset and 1st race.

Btw2: Australia is a great place to reside, whether you're starting a new generation of cyclists, or just love beaches and sunny weather  ;)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Themasterofcm on January 29, 2017, 05:09:50 pm
Oska,

I saw there is no coach for Ukraine U23. Is there nobody who can take care of that? It seems like a shame there is one country without coach.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on January 31, 2017, 07:50:06 am
Oska,

I saw there is no coach for Ukraine U23. Is there nobody who can take care of that? It seems like a shame there is one country without coach.

Now there is a manager. The problem was that when no managers the system put the best in national ranking. Sometimes they didn't want be manager .
In this case the system put a manager and the manager changed this country, for this no managers at init.
I put now in the change country script a code line to avoid that a NT manager change their country ( they can send me a message, I put other NT and they can change their country if they have a world challenge card).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 02, 2017, 12:17:03 pm
Ok, nonsense fact I discovered.
The Google map location for those players who haven't set their home town is 0,0, which you'll find if you go south of Ghana and west of Gabon.  So I'm curious about silly things at times....

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@0.0000034,0.0000936,64028m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: TeamSolex on February 02, 2017, 01:02:56 pm
Lost city of Atlantis  ???

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WQaRWtxRPMw/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on February 02, 2017, 01:45:41 pm
Hahahahahaha  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on February 08, 2017, 08:34:03 pm
Maybe this was brought up before, but I just noticed it now:
Supporters have a feature which show the money each rider won. But I think it is bugged:
Kjeld Nyström (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=375148 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=375148)) - money won: 68333
But he won:
16.667 by winning stage 5 of Tirreno
35.000 by placing 6th overall in Tirreno
50.000 by winning the Polka jersey in Tirreno

So how is the 68.333 figure calculated...?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on February 08, 2017, 08:46:32 pm
Maybe this was brought up before, but I just noticed it now:
Supporters have a feature which show the money each rider won. But I think it is bugged:
Kjeld Nyström (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=375148 (http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=375148)) - money won: 68333
But he won:
16.667 by winning stage 5 of Tirreno
35.000 by placing 6th overall in Tirreno
50.000 by winning the Polka jersey in Tirreno

So how is the 68.333 figure calculated...?

1º Etapa 5 - Tirreno Adriatico temporada31 (16666.5)
6º Etapa 2 - Tirreno Adriatico temporada31 (8333.5)
6º Etapa 3 - Tirreno Adriatico temporada31 (8333.5)

+

6th GC (35000)


It does't calculate the jerseys.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Aurora_Australis on February 17, 2017, 03:15:23 pm
Is there a training penalty when you change your team's training specialty?
I've changed my team's specialty to downhill.  On the training screen, when I hit the little orange downhill (for a cyclist at 61 DH training in DH), I get 0.08 (also 0.3 for one at 80DH).  For a cyclist training climbing (on 87 climbing), I get 0.02.

These figures don't match what we've previously known about training.

http://www.cyclingforfun.org/smf/index.php/topic,1096.0.html
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Sjiz on February 17, 2017, 03:21:49 pm
Without looking into it: most stuff updates at 2 moments a day. Perhaps this is also one?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 17, 2017, 04:33:51 pm
No penalties when you change team training speciality.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on February 19, 2017, 04:08:23 pm
If I try to run the World Challenges, I get this error:
Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 2621440) (tried to allocate 6291456 bytes) in C:\AppServ\www\cff\desafiando3.php on line 4413

Is this a bug or am I missing something ?

EDIT: seems to be working now :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 20, 2017, 08:24:03 am
If I try to run the World Challenges, I get this error:
Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 2621440) (tried to allocate 6291456 bytes) in C:\AppServ\www\cff\desafiando3.php on line 4413

Is this a bug or am I missing something ?

EDIT: seems to be working now :)

This random error sometimes stopped the race process or training process , grrr.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on February 26, 2017, 11:51:08 am
In the calendar it looks like there is something wrong with the race dates of the Dauphiné stage 1 and 2. Probably because February has 28 days again this year and not 29 like in 2016.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 26, 2017, 06:59:47 pm
In the calendar it looks like there is something wrong with the race dates of the Dauphiné stage 1 and 2. Probably because February has 28 days again this year and not 29 like in 2016.

Sure, but race sytem don't use calendar race date.
I updated it manually.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on February 26, 2017, 07:13:18 pm
OK, good, was just worried it was going to screw up the race engine  ;D
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: AJFactoryCycling on February 28, 2017, 11:55:43 am
I can't find the CFF-record holder of the Giro, how is that possible?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on February 28, 2017, 10:15:32 pm
I can't find the CFF-record holder of the Giro, how is that possible?

Bug with cyclists that aren't in Hall of Fame when they were dead .
Now it should works
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: AJFactoryCycling on February 28, 2017, 10:28:36 pm
It does! Thanks Oska :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on March 10, 2017, 07:37:22 am
How does the team's Hall of Fame work ? How can a rider e induced into the hall of fame ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 10, 2017, 07:52:55 am
How does the team's Hall of Fame work ? How can a rider e induced into the hall of fame ?

Almost 1 time in NT , U21 or U21.

Top 3 in any tour in 1st division

Win any trophy in 1st division ( top3 cyclist, best young, national champion).
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on March 11, 2017, 07:39:34 pm
How does the team's Hall of Fame work ? How can a rider e induced into the hall of fame ?

Almost 1 time in NT , U21 or U21.

Top 3 in any tour in 1st division

Win any trophy in 1st division ( top3 cyclist, best young, national champion).

Are they automatically added ? Or should I add them manually ?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 11, 2017, 08:08:41 pm
Is the 'Suggestions' thread still active?

There are still a few suggestions waiting for a reply. I know it's unrealistic to think Oska can respond on every suggestion posted, but some feedback on the suggestions would me welcome.  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 12, 2017, 06:14:37 am
How does the team's Hall of Fame work ? How can a rider e induced into the hall of fame ?

Almost 1 time in NT , U21 or U21.

Top 3 in any tour in 1st division

Win any trophy in 1st division ( top3 cyclist, best young, national champion).

Are they automatically added ? Or should I add them manually ?

Automatically
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: oscacom on March 12, 2017, 06:33:41 am
Is the 'Suggestions' thread still active?

There are still a few suggestions waiting for a reply. I know it's unrealistic to think Oska can respond on every suggestion posted, but some feedback on the suggestions would me welcome.  :)

I said a lot of times, suggestions always are read for me , but I don't have to put in every suggestion why I like or not.
Sometimes I know how to do and I did it, others I don't like suggestions because I see problems or only because I don't like.
Other suggestions I don't know how to do or I put in my noteblock to study or ask to other game users their opinion about it.

For all people that send me suggestions here or in my mail, for them always it is good, but when you change a thing in the game you can put new problems or that other users won't like it.
Other time it can slow the game or make database more bigger than I like, or as I said I am not programmer and my knowledge is low to do a lot of changes .

As example change mountain classification in tie case, I don't like this suggestion, I prefer as I it now because it can slow the process, I need change a lot of things in script and I think it is more confuse than now.
Fill with numbers, one user tell me some time ago and maybe I will add, but for new users numbers can confuse I think.
Rest for race, complex because I have to change scripts in training process and if only we have to rest one day it is good , but we have to study some days before how many rest sessions every cyclist needs according their staff and not as easy in practice.
Store parameters in market place is not possible ( we store in the same moment if you comeback) , but store every user last search is add more space to database to store all parameters and I think it is not a good improvement to use more space.
Days in the list for me is not useful, although I put in my notepad to study it and if enough number of users tell me about it or I see in future it could be good I change the store system ( but changes in a daily day must be made careful, a problem in a change can crash the process and give us problems in calendar, for this only if it is important or neccesary in important processes as races, training...).

2-3 races every time: every user have an idea, others tell me only a race by day, too many races for me is good for make calendar faster, but people can't control well their team ( training, rest, race...)
More cyclist in a team : No, more space in database, more slow processes for no real benefit. For me 20 is enought.

Training camp screen move as previous-next: I put in notepad to do it but I need more time, for my job every day is more difficult have free time to Cff. Last weeks I improve database speed with a lot of changes that although are not seen as improvement, for me do some processes faster and quit some load to the server.
This suggestion will be added for sure, I started but I have not finish it .



Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: WinterIsComing on March 13, 2017, 10:01:02 am
Thank you for your thorough reply, Oska  :)

I know you have said this before, and I think people will understand that not every suggestion can be implemented and we all know you have a busy schedule. But every now and then, it is good to answer some good-intention-suggestions, lije you did now.

Keep up the great work!  :)
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Ricoo on March 19, 2017, 12:06:18 pm
Looking at the rankings for this year's races, I can find all of them apart from the Ronde van Vlaanderen. Is that the same for everyone?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Thorin on March 19, 2017, 12:34:35 pm
Looking at the rankings for this year's races, I can find all of them apart from the Ronde van Vlaanderen. Is that the same for everyone?

Is the only important race, the other races are just shit  ;D

PS: I can see all the races btw
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: shalgo on March 31, 2017, 03:54:00 pm
To follow up on Ricco's post: the same thing is happening for me.

When I go to the Rankings page, some of the results for races earlier this season are not available.  When I click on the race, I just get taken back to the "Rankings" page.  The same thing happens when I try to view the race by selecting the "Previous Race" and "Next Race" buttons.  So far, this is the case for the RVV and Veenendaal-Veenendaal.  There may be others that I have not yet noticed.  Has anyone else had this problem?
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Vos on March 31, 2017, 04:28:35 pm
RVV and Veenendaal I can see and probably all other races too ;

the exception is San Sebastian, I can see the race-picture but the cyclists are not there, so I cannot see the results.
Clicking next race and previous race is no problem, that works and I can see those races including results.
Title: Re: Ask anything
Post by: Horace on April 14, 2017, 08:50:25 pm
How does the "Records" section work ? What is recorded ?
My CFF Cup and end-of-season ranks are fine, but rankings in races are empty. I thought it was only for Division 1, but now I see some records for the current season, in Division 2. Last season I was in Division 2 too, but nothing was recorded. So I am a bit confused :)

Or does it have anything to do with being a supporter ?
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Post by: Ricoo on April 14, 2017, 09:17:03 pm
I think records for division 1 are stored and can be seen in later seasons as well, while records for lower divisions can only be seen in the season they were achieved.
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Post by: Horace on April 15, 2017, 07:14:34 am
I think records for division 1 are stored and can be seen in later seasons as well, while records for lower divisions can only be seen in the season they were achieved.
And what would be the logic of that ? :)
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Post by: oscacom on April 16, 2017, 07:27:34 am
I think records for division 1 are stored and can be seen in later seasons as well, while records for lower divisions can only be seen in the season they were achieved.
And what would be the logic of that ? :)
The logic is that if you see 2nd in a race in the table, it is not the same be in 1st or 3rd division to compare.
And we need database space too :P
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Post by: Horace on April 16, 2017, 09:56:37 am
I think records for division 1 are stored and can be seen in later seasons as well, while records for lower divisions can only be seen in the season they were achieved.
And what would be the logic of that ? :)
The logic is that if you see 2nd in a race in the table, it is not the same be in 1st or 3rd division to compare.
And we need database space too :P

Ok, makes sense  ;D
But I see some of my Division 2 results for Season 31 season. But not Season 30, when I was in Division 1. So is this a supporter feature...? My initial question is still not clearly answered... :(
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Post by: oscacom on April 16, 2017, 06:48:11 pm
I think records for division 1 are stored and can be seen in later seasons as well, while records for lower divisions can only be seen in the season they were achieved.
And what would be the logic of that ? :)
The logic is that if you see 2nd in a race in the table, it is not the same be in 1st or 3rd division to compare.
And we need database space too :P

Ok, makes sense  ;D
But I see some of my Division 2 results for Season 31 season. But not Season 30, when I was in Division 1. So is this a supporter feature...? My initial question is still not clearly answered... :(
In 1st division only top10 is stored.
In current season all results are stored in all divisions.
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Post by: Horace on April 22, 2017, 08:53:46 pm
I always had the impression that Donwhill also counts in stages with hills.
But I just realized that in the help page of CFF, in stages with hills, downhill is not mentioned; only tech, stamina and aggressiveness... Downhill is not important...?
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Post by: Horace on April 22, 2017, 09:27:19 pm
I always had the impression that Donwhill also counts in stages with hills.
But I just realized that in the help page of CFF, in stages with hills, downhill is not mentioned; only tech, stamina and aggressiveness... Downhill is not important...?
Quote: "Hills ++++; Stamina +; Technique +; Aggres +; Downhill +"
DH was on 2nd line
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/ayudaeng.php
I promise not to mix CFF with alcohol ever again
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Post by: Thorin on April 22, 2017, 09:28:19 pm
I always had the impression that Donwhill also counts in stages with hills.
But I just realized that in the help page of CFF, in stages with hills, downhill is not mentioned; only tech, stamina and aggressiveness... Downhill is not important...?
Quote: "Hills ++++; Stamina +; Technique +; Aggres +; Downhill +"
DH was on 2nd line
http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/ayudaeng.php
I promise not to mix CFF with alcohol ever again
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: oscacom on April 22, 2017, 11:02:36 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: matteo94 on May 07, 2017, 10:01:59 am
What is the best tactic for the 8th stage of the Giro d'Italia of monday morning?
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Post by: agtxla on May 07, 2017, 11:22:37 am
The best tactic for ALLs stages is 00005
But only in theory... not in practice ;D
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Post by: kekipi on May 07, 2017, 12:10:04 pm
What is the best tactic for the 8th stage of the Giro d'Italia of monday morning?

(http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/etapas/folgaria.jpg)

Not knowing anything about your leader, I'd say if he can get away with 20055 with a good helper(s) who can go 31152 or 32250, he'd do good.

I can tell you that my leader will not be using 20055 because he's not good enough to do so. 

I am hoping that someday I'll have a rider who can use the theoretical 00005, as noted by agtxla, but that may only be in my dreams.
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Post by: matteo94 on May 07, 2017, 01:00:14 pm
Thanks
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Post by: Aurora_Australis on June 19, 2017, 03:10:00 am
Q: At what temperature does hot weather attribute (http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg) come into play?
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Post by: WinterIsComing on June 19, 2017, 06:22:22 am
Q: At what temperature does hot weather attribute (http://cff.cyclingforfun.netdna-cdn.com/cff/imagenes/sol.jpg) come into play?

At 30 degrees. So in fact, in Bealach there were 2 weather icons active, yet only 1 is shown.

10 degrees or less, cold weather icon is active.
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Post by: WinterIsComing on June 30, 2017, 01:53:06 pm
In Tirreno, I won the first stage with Jean Paul Grevisse. He did so in a free role (see screenshot below). I didn't receive the associated 'achievement' though.
It has been a few days ago now, so I wonder if the achievement might be bugged?

(http://i.imgur.com/dlJGwZH.png)
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Post by: oscacom on July 03, 2017, 11:12:51 pm
Sorry, I am very busy .

I check it ( later) and I didn't find well the problem.
I change a bit the code and I put the achievement manually.
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Post by: WinterIsComing on July 03, 2017, 11:28:15 pm
Sorry, I am very busy .

I check it ( later) and I didn't find well the problem.
I change a bit the code and I put the achievement manually.

Thanks for answering Oska. And don't worry, I understand you are busy.  :)
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Post by: Aurora_Australis on July 25, 2017, 03:29:43 am
I'm wondering, what is the current CFF player base by nationality?
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Post by: oscacom on July 25, 2017, 07:38:26 am
I'm wondering, what is the current CFF player base by nationality?

You can see it in supporter options
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Post by: Kazistuta on July 28, 2017, 07:00:58 am
How many points are awarded for the various stages in a grand tour? It seems like the winner of the first stage in the tour got 90 points for winning,while my own time trial winner only got 45 points. It's hard to calculate if it's worth aiming for the green jersey,if the stage points isn't known...?
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Post by: Aurora_Australis on July 28, 2017, 09:52:29 am
How many points are awarded for the various stages in a grand tour? It seems like the winner of the first stage in the tour got 90 points for winning,while my own time trial winner only got 45 points. It's hard to calculate if it's worth aiming for the green jersey,if the stage points isn't known...?
That's interesting, because if you look back at past results, it gives Matthias Roossen in stage#1 45 points for stage win and 7 points for intermediate sprint. Not only doesn't it show sprint points for stage#2 (TT) Roossen finished 57th.
So Roossen should have 52 points.
Yet if we search tour, he has 97 green points.

The same discrepancy will be present with all other cyclists.  So there's a misalignment between the points shown for each individual stage, and points shown for tour overall (possibly individual stage display data not updated from reformulation of green points from several seasons ago).
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Post by: AJFactoryCycling on July 28, 2017, 11:18:02 am
If S5 is flat (green) then there are double points at the finish (so in the TdF stage 1, stage 4, stage 6 and stage 10). This doesn't count for TT's.
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Post by: Kazistuta on July 28, 2017, 08:06:54 pm
That makes sense...but I've never heard of that before  :)
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Post by: AJFactoryCycling on July 28, 2017, 09:54:01 pm
No me neither, found out myself  :P
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Post by: Aurora_Australis on August 01, 2017, 10:48:03 am
I'm wondering, what is the current CFF player base by nationality?
You can see it in supporter options

I was actually thinking of real life nationality.  The reason I'm wondering is that there's several CFF nations that aren't actually active, and I would suspect they wouldn't have anybody from those countries playing.  If there's no interest in these in CFF, then maybe it would be beneficial to change them to another nationality that might have more interest.  The advantage here is that you wouldn't need to add new CFF nations (which would dilute the numbers in smaller CFF nations),  plus it might attract a small level of extra activity.  Don't know if anybody from Poland, Czech Republic, or even Kazakhshan plays, or could be attracted into the game.
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Post by: Horace on August 04, 2017, 10:25:36 pm
Are there any prizes for the additional classifications ? Like U23 and World Cup (teams and individual) ?
Can this info be added into the classifications' page (even if it means no other prizes than honor) ?  ;)
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Post by: oscacom on August 07, 2017, 07:11:44 am
Are there any prizes for the additional classifications ? Like U23 and World Cup (teams and individual) ?
Can this info be added into the classifications' page (even if it means no other prizes than honor) ?  ;)

No prizes for final classifications , only trophies . 1st, 2nd , 3rd in individual and teams is the same.
The cyclists that have better classifications have more points and more money when they race during season.
Only in U23 you can win the trophy without get any point.
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Post by: laputis on August 21, 2017, 08:42:29 pm
i have been inactivat for some time. is it possible with my username restart  the game ?
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Post by: Puertollano Team on August 21, 2017, 08:48:08 pm
How many  time passed and in what division you were?
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Post by: oscacom on August 22, 2017, 04:46:44 pm
i have been inactivat for some time. is it possible with my username restart  the game ?

In the game you can send me a message to osca_com@hotmail.com , you have to change your team name and I will change username in database to old team.
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Post by: Davici on November 15, 2017, 09:19:43 pm
Does somebody have an explanation why Erichsen ends behind his opponent in the general classification, while he got better results in all the individual stages?  :-\

General classification
1   Albert Villa   33   drulo_team   0: 00"   500   300000   
2   András Arnold   30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 57"   400   200000
3   Thorleif Erichsen   34   CCT   0: 57"   300   150000

Race 1                        
26   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:22"   13   333   0
28   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 22"   8   333   0
                        
Race 2                        
1   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:00"   150   33333   45
3   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 00"   113   26667   30
                        
Race 3                        
1   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:00"   150   33333   45
8   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 00"   80   11667   16
                        
Race 4                        
12   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:00"   60   5000   8
15   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 00"   45   3000   2
                        
Race 5                        
10   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:42"   70   8333   12
13   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 42"   55   4000   6
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Post by: combuijs on November 15, 2017, 11:13:33 pm
Eh ... alphabet ...?
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Post by: Aurora_Australis on November 16, 2017, 09:26:46 am
Eh ... alphabet ...?
Not alphabet, I've thought of this previously.  Pretty certain I also discounted ID numbers, nor is it best finishing position.
From what I've seen previously, it seems completely random.
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Post by: Israelus on November 16, 2017, 07:15:39 pm
Does somebody have an explanation why Erichsen ends behind his opponent in the general classification, while he got better results in all the individual stages?  :-\

General classification
1   Albert Villa   33   drulo_team   0: 00"   500   300000   
2   András Arnold   30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 57"   400   200000
3   Thorleif Erichsen   34   CCT   0: 57"   300   150000

Race 1                        
26   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:22"   13   333   0
28   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 22"   8   333   0
                        
Race 2                        
1   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:00"   150   33333   45
3   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 00"   113   26667   30
                        
Race 3                        
1   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:00"   150   33333   45
8   András Arnold      30   Antonio_Cassano   0: 00"   80   11667   16
                        
Race 4                        
12   Thorleif Erichsen      34   CCT   0:00"  &nbs