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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2017, 01:20:21 pm »
STAGE 3 :  BRITTANY

13║C

Morbihan, France
For the 3rd time in a row an U23 NT race in France. A tricky hills-stage, because of the distance and the wind. And Brittany is known for his rainy weather, too bad it will be dry today because no Australian has a wind-icon but some of them do have a rain-icon, including the team captain. And that will be Vinnie Daily, 2 seasons ago he was 7th in a different U21 hills NT race.
The 2nd best for this race is the just 21yo top-talent Eric Lungby ; so there is a lack of very good 22yo helpers/ hills specialists and therefore I expect not to score many points in this stage.

Australia U23 selection =

Vinnie Daily (22) Oska
Eric Lungby (21) Kilometervreters
Franklin Wolf (22) marijntjesteam
Owen Farmer (22) asier05
Elgin Bird (21) TrailRunners
Norm Hamsten (22) PaczynTeam
Kendall Madsen (22) PipiolosTeam
Wilt Burton (22) PipiolosTeam
Oscar Hunter (19) FacHaBortoLo

edit ; up to date U23 lists on the previous page
« Last Edit: April 23, 2017, 03:31:01 pm by Vos »

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2017, 09:00:58 pm »
The by far 2 best helpers were Lungby and Wolf. But very unexpectedly Lungby decided to go faster then his team captain in S3, although he had just like in S2 only 1 EP more. Luckely Wolf stayed with his team captain till S4 so team captain Daily had important bonus for the final section.

The result is good ; team captain Daily finishes as 6th ( he is not in the U23 Dream Team )
Probably his result could even be two places better when he had the 21yo Lungby as helper in S4 because he would v been even a better helper then Wolf.
Lungby scores a few points too and finishes as 17th.
(edit  ; Of course he would v done better in a free role and very good to see he scores points in a helpers role, although he didnt help in the last 3 sections, lol. He was the best 21yo in this race, the 2nd best 21yo, a Hungarian, finished just as 42nd.)

Australia u23 scores a good 200 points (6th in day ranking) but loses one place in the Ranking by Countries and is now 9th.
But there are not yet huge differences in points between the countries. But one thing is for sure, this not so good generation is by far not good enough for the podium and the season goal is 8th.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2017, 09:29:19 pm by Vos »

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2017, 08:16:52 am »
STAGE 4 : SWISS MOUNTAINS

4║C

Ambri, Switzerland
It will be cold today and team captain Wilt Burton is born in Sunshine Coast, Australia.
But no problem for him, he can handle the cold well. And although this stage is not really suited for him because he is a climb-hill-specialist, I hope and expect he can score some points. In stage 2 of this season, a pure mountain stage, he was 9th. His descent could be better, so a top 10 result is this time not possible, I assume.
A few other cyclists of this selection are almost as good as Burton, perhaps one of them gets a free role to try to score some points as well, although it is unlikely that will be a success.

Australia U23 selection =

Wilt Burton (22) PipiolosTeam
Adrian Stallone (22) Aurora_Australis
Trevor Kewell (22) BluesBr17
Ian Janson (22) Agolpede
Sam Donaldson (22) gandarias
Nick Hines (21) CC_MANICOMICOS
Merv Horwill (22) gandarias
Earl Johnson (22) maneblussers
Hank Thomas (22) FranšaiseDesJeux

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2017, 09:25:58 pm »
A way better result then I expected ; 7th and 20th for a helper.  :)
Tactics could probably be better of a few helpers, but had to take risk with some of them.
Dissapointing were the 2 cyclists in a free role, but they also had a very risky tactic and they were gambling on the effect of the weather icon, otherwise points was not possible. But when they both couldnt follow in S1, well, then I can forget a good result with the free roles.

Australia U23 scored 160 points in this race and gained one place in the Ranking by Countries, now on the season goal place.
Belgium won this stage (congrats Fingolfin, well done) and funny that the Netherlands and Belgium are right above the young Aussies in that ranking, so the targets are still in sight, hahaha :

6   730
7   695
8   640

Denmark is already the leader and 2 seasons ago in the u21 NT time trial they scored almost 1.000 points in just that one race.
This season Australia has no good time trialists. But that is stage 6, at first stage 5, next week, sprinting in the USA.




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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2017, 09:32:07 pm »
Good job, Vos. Nice review.  :)

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2017, 09:46:54 pm »
Thanks WiC.  :)
Although after previous season it is hard not to compete for the podiumplaces, this generation is simply not good enough. And bad luck with the season scedule, because for example team captain Burton is an awsome climb-hill-specialist and there isnt such a race.
But the generations to come are looking very good for Australia U23, imo.

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2017, 11:20:57 pm »
STAGE 5 : GEORGIA

36║C

Georgia, USA,
Peachtree City to Macon was in 2007 stage 1 of the Tour de Georgia. Back then the winner was Daniele Contrini (see picture).
The Tour de Georgia ( 2003 - 2008 ) does not excist anymore, but a good sprint stage for the U23 NT teams in CFF.
Hank Thomas will be the team captain, he has no great helpers but he was 4th in a U21NT sprint stage of 2 seasons ago. So I expect he will score many points again, despite his sprint-skill, that could be higher. Other 22yo are better trained on the sprint-skill, it seems.

Australia U23 selection =

Hank Thomas (22) FranšaiseDesJeux
Lenny Battle (22) Shopitos_Cycling
Duke Footman (22) arcadasteamone
Zack Gatson (21) LubaesCyclingTeam
Alex Levin (21) RaboRuben
Walter Hamilton (20) alfaro
Baron Morrison (20) EufemianoFutentesTeam_EFT
Ken Emerton (22) Bolaverde
Oscar Hunter (19) FacHaBortoLo
« Last Edit: May 06, 2017, 07:40:04 am by Vos »

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2017, 06:49:55 am »
Pssst, take http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=753849 with you. Greatest talent of Down Under.

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2017, 07:37:59 am »
Pssst, take http://www.cyclingforfun.org/cff/vision.php?ciclistaid=753849 with you. Greatest talent of Down Under.

Without the www I can see the cyclist you mean.
I selected him earlier for Australia U23 then you did in the U21  ;)
And he is very well known by me :

I drafted the nephew of John Hunter (31), the number 1 on TT in the CFF Elite Dream Team.
Oscar Hunter (19) will be his successor, I hope  :)


the niece of John and Oscar in action

Thanks for the good advice, Telamon. No time this weekend and tactics are already made, so again he can ride along for the xp.
And good to see a very good and experienced manager in training TT talents bought him.
Let s reward him, so that Oscar can reward the NT's of Australia in the future^^



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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2017, 07:01:42 am »
8th place of Hank Thomas. Well, he is not in the U23 Dream Team, so probably there are a few better sprinters. And he could almost not ride better then the 6 EP tactic.
One place up in the Ranking by Countries, now on the 7th position.

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2017, 09:09:07 am »
8th place isn't bad Vos, but not enough to keep up with the Dutch  ;) Most of the sprinters in the U23 dreamteam are hillsprinters. Simon VanHouwelingen is a dreamteam member but he only finished on the 28th place.

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2017, 10:21:26 pm »
In my team are 4 dt-boys. And all are hillsprinters.

Mario Gensler.                   22   75.5           74.57   
Alessandro Mazzola.        22   74.15   75.34
Eduard Pokhomov.           22   73.45   77.26
Caspar Vesterlund            22   72.7    72.56
Harrie Gravenstein.           22      72.45    70.83
Simon VanHouwelingen  22    70.5    73.8   1
Gela Faizulin                      22   68           72.79
Kevin Hilfiker                      22   67.7    69.18   
Tommaso Astolfi              22   65.4           69.81   

Left: flat sprint
Right: hill sprint   
   
   

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2017, 08:19:32 am »
B.E-L and  tximas ; you r both right. In previous season there were also a lot of hill-sprinters in the U23 DT ; I should have known.
And to B.E-L ; I wish Australia U23 could keep up with the Dutch ; but that is not going to happen this season because of poor quality.

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2017, 08:36:04 am »
STAGE 6 : COSTA BRAVA

21║C

Lloret del Mar, Spain,
No sunshine and no party for the young Aussies. Two seasons ago in the U21 TT NT race there were 2 TT-cyclists who scored points, Baldwin (16th) and Cahill (17th). The last one does not excist anymore.
So a very poor TT generation and the expectations are very low. But the future in TT is looking good for Australia, therefore toptalents 20yo Owen and 19yo Hunter are already selected.
The other 6 cyclists will be selected later this weekend. Probably more very young TT cyclists who can use the xp.
By the way, I noticed that the Danish Team_Klykke is in-active, perhaps good info for U21 NT manager Telamon, he has lots of good TT cyclists in the same age.

Australia U23 selection =

Larry Baldwin (22) VILLESVENSKAS
William Owen (20) Argonautjes
Peter Fluss (21) Expoquick
Benjamin Wade (21) Argonautjes
Ted Foxxe (20) Argonautjes
Paul Licuria (20) Argonautjes
Oscar Hunter (19) FacHaBortoLo
Ken Emerton (22) Bolaverde
Eric Lungby (21) Kilometervreters

« Last Edit: May 14, 2017, 05:23:18 pm by Vos »

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Re: Australia: U23 Season 32
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2017, 11:54:43 am »
10th place for Baldwin ; way better then I expected in this time trial  8)