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Australia: U21 Season 34
« on: August 26, 2017, 03:31:49 pm »


Today the u21 lists ; tomorrow morning the selection and preview of race 1 ; on monday the u20 lists so you can all scout in Australia  8)

Benefits of scouting in Australia :
# Every week an u21 list (top 15) and a preview of the u21 NT race. Fun to see your own cyclist and how he is doing compared to others.
# Australia is a small CFF country, so a good Australian talent has a good change to ride other not suited for him races too because of extra experience. Your Australian cyclist will get better compared to cyclists of other nations.
Most important of xp cyclists is how good of a talent he is, but second important  is how many races he rides in your team. Managers who let their Australian talent ride a lot, have more change to become a xp cyclist.
# Australian cyclists are awesome ! Send your scout to Australia and good luck ! :)



edit ; If the list is not entirely correct, please react in this topic. No time today. If that is the case I will adjust it tomorrow morning.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2017, 04:17:07 pm by Vos »

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2017, 09:15:24 am »
STAGE 1 :  TARTU GP

16C

Estonia,
This season starts with a sprint race in the rain and nobody of this selection likes to ride in that weather.
Unknown to me how good team captain Carl Neville will be, so no prognosis by me.
In fact, I don t know if this u21 generation is good or bad, we will find out this season^^
This u21 calendar is perfect for a hill sprinter, but I don't think Bush is good enough to become u21 world champion. In case I m wrong, he gets a free role in this race, perhaps he can score some points but I don't expect that at all.
I selected a few hopefully good helpers, and a few (semi) xp cyclists because I m not impressed by the GV of the u21 sprinters/helpers and some of them are in a not active team.
The team captain of next week, Green, is selected as xp cyclist. And the semi xp cyclists are Lee (time trial) and the 19yo Oar (sprint), yesterday he was one of the most expensive draft cyclists. So a reward to that manager who invests in a good Australian talent.

Australia u21 selection =
( In blue the experience, I mention it hoping that managers who read it let the Australian talents ride a lot in their team )

Carl Neville (20) Pharaway  2
Derek Gill (20) Pharaway  0
Darvin Bush (20) Aurora_Australis  3
Shaun Garlick (20) SheepKimkum  0
Bill Goodman (20) Pitisito  0
Gary Robinson (20) Mecatoneuno99  1
Clive Lee (20) TrailRunners  6
Mike Oar (19) Oldmen  0
Colin Green (20) SP0RTLIFE 7

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2017, 09:45:12 am »
Good luck, Vos!

Adding the experience in blue is a good thing. 20 year old cyclists with 0 experience is a shame.

At 22 years, 0 experience is a reason for me to keep them out of the NT U23 selection.

Hopefully, their respective managers will read the forums and adapt their racing strategies.  :)

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2017, 12:19:31 pm »
I wish I had Carl Neville in my team.  I do actually have a couple of better sprinters, but I would have given him more races.  I'll predict around 4th or 5th or so for Carl (one of my sprinters should be close to winning).

Edit: Just worked it out, my best sprinter would probably be around 66.5-66.7 GV in pure sprint - so Carl's up there.
Edit2: My best hill-sprinter (who would possibly be close to favourite for u21 champion shirt if he wasn't Spanish) would currently be around 60.9 (65.7-66.0 pure sprint), but Bush does have a better ability to close that before race 7/8.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2017, 12:22:08 pm by Aurora_Australis »

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2017, 10:11:18 pm »
Good info, AA, and normally very usefull, but I have (almost) no time this weekend and too bad I didn't read it before the race. Because then I could adjust my tactics a bit because of this usefull info.
Now probably 1 EP too many at the start, and another tactical failure was in S4. To my surprise, because I anticipated there by the main helper using lots of energie to keep the team captain in the front. Apparently that didn't work although also the main helper had to let go the front group of just 15 riders. In the final section team captain Carl Neville made an impressive jump and finished as 8th in the front group of just 9 riders.
So you must be right, AA, otherwise he could not make such a jump.

And your cyclist Darvin Bush finished in a free role just outside the points on the 21st place. Maybe for the best, now I don't have to make the choice who will be the team captain in race 4. That is also a sprint race, but now entirely flat, so that suits Carl Neville better and of course I have learned from this race so he is going for at least top 5 or podium there.  :)

To make a long story short ; I'm not satisfied with this first race, tactics could be way better.
Well, at least Australia u21 starts with points and for now on the 10th place in the ranking by countries ; and good to know we have a very good flat sprinter^^

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2017, 12:30:02 pm »
LOL  ;D
I was way too optimistic/enthusiastic, there are just 10 Australian u20 cyclists.
But I promised to post the u20 lists, so let s do that^^
There are also just 49 Australian cyclists at the age of 20. So the very little CFF country Australia can use every help.
Send your scout to Down Under please, and most likely the scouted cyclist will make it into the list.  :))  8)

The Australian u20 lists :


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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2017, 12:57:49 pm »
For now im promoting swiss cyclist in 1 week i will change to aussies and next swiss etc

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2017, 06:50:40 pm »
ok, very good !  8)
I'm also assisting the Swiss a little bit, by training Mutombo, probably the best Swiss TT cyclist. And Garcia is also Swiss in my team.
Without my support that nation would go really bad in CFF, I suppose.  :))  So I understand that you help the Swiss also^^.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2017, 04:56:41 pm »
Good luck, Vos!

Adding the experience in blue is a good thing. 20 year old cyclists with 0 experience is a shame.

At 22 years, 0 experience is a reason for me to keep them out of the NT U23 selection.

Hopefully, their respective managers will read the forums and adapt their racing strategies.  :)

I tried to get Carl Neville and Derek Gill more experience at the end of last season, and am making a push to get him in more races already this season. I'm fairly new so I'm still picking things up as I go.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2017, 06:08:29 pm »
I tried to get Carl Neville and Derek Gill more experience at the end of last season, and am making a push to get him in more races already this season. I'm fairly new so I'm still picking things up as I go.
Ok, understandable, you just play 1 month. Lots to learn in this game the first few months, that applies to everyone. I send you 1 week of free supporter, you can see more statistics and other simular benefits for example you can practise your tactical skills in the Live Races. Perhaps this game is even more fun with my gift.  :)

And very good you r planning to let your Australian talents ride a lot in your team.  8)
Carl Neville is an awesome cyclist ; this was his debute in the u21 NT, but I saw that in previous season the Australian u23 NT manager (AA) already saw he is really good, that s why he rode already 2 races because of gaining extra experience in the u23 NT last season.
He is one of the very few good Australian u21 talents this season, so most likely I will let ride him for extra experience also.

If you have questions or little doubts about something in this game, you can always ask me by pm. And if it is Australian-related, you can ask in this topic also.
Have fun and good luck with your team !  :)

edit ; The best way to train Carl Neville is 100% sprint (because of the u23 training bonus). Set resting to 50, so he will train a lot / max. More important for the long term, and the competition in the 3rd division is not so good, so with low health he still scores price money and points (=also money at the end of the season) for your team this season.
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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2017, 03:11:44 pm »
70 u21 cyclists ( including 16 u20 cyclists )

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2017, 03:58:40 pm »
Great 19yo TT-cyclist you recruted this week, Telamon !  8)
For sure Graham Williams has a promising future in the NT's of Australia.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2017, 05:58:58 pm »
Yes, starting with 68 on TT is very nice. Unfortunately just 33 on Technique otherwise he would have been brilliant.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2017, 04:48:22 pm »
Yes, starting with 68 on TT is very nice. Unfortunately just 33 on Technique otherwise he would have been brilliant.
His other TT skills are also high, and indeed technique low but if that was very good also and he has a very good talent rating then he would have been the best TT-specialist ever in CFF history, I think.
And despite the fact he needs a lot of training on technique, other skills need way less training, so this is for sure a good TT specialist.
The talent rating will decide how good he really will be.

Something else : preview of the upcoming u21 race will follow later today, I m watching the Vuelta stage, that is more important  ;)

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 34
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2017, 06:24:37 pm »
STAGE 2 : ACROPOLIS

25C

Athens,
Today a long distance hills race in Greece.
The team captain is without a doubt Colin Green, by far the best hills specialist of this Australian generation.
So he does not have really good helpers, that is a pitty. The number 2 on the u21 hills list (Miller) has an extreme low stamina, so most likely he will be not good enough to help his team captain in S4, but he is gonna try that anyway in a for him very risky helpers-tactic. No guts, no glory^^
The other just 2 helpers (Foster and Winger) have to do their job in the first sections.
The number 4 on the u21 hills list is not selected, zero xp and an inactive manager.

Because of the lack of good hills specialists in this u21 generation, lots of space to select xp-cyclists.
Semi-xp-cyclist is climbhills-specialist Jones, probably the team captain in race 9.
Xp-cyclists are the 3 team captains of the upcoming 3 races (Alpin, Neville and Lee) ; they all have good xp and/or their manager let these great Australian talents ride a lot this season. So let s reward that.
Also selected as xp cyclist the very good 19yo TT specialist that was drafted this week, his manager is Telamon and he always let his Australian talents ride a lot in his team. And that is important to become a xp cyclist, and of course this very good 19yo can use the xp so he will be a little bit better as his future competition.

Australia U21 selection ( in blue the xp ) =

Colin Green (20) TeaMetal   8
Aaron Miller (20) bronx   3
Denis Foster (20) gracciano   8
Pete Winger (20) CerrazoB   2
Stephen Jones (20) TeamNextGeneration   5
Darvin Alpin (20) Guapis   10  8)
Clive Lee (20) TrailRunners   7
Carl Neville (20) Pharaway   5
Graham Williams (19) Argonautjes   0
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