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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2018, 11:47:55 am »
22 points below 60+ is an extra season of DH training.  Are you going to put in the 3 seasons of specialist DH training he needs?  Personally, as somebody who'll be interested in buying climbers once I've finished most of my flat training, I'd want somebody with high climb & DH first (but that doesn't matter as much if you're keeping him until old age).
I do like that he hasn't wasted much in sprint, flat, cobbles, or TT.
I don't know what the competition is like, so I can't compare (is it my imagination, or is there a decisively lack of quality available on the market?).

He will train 70% amount of descent at 70% when 0'03 plus is finished.

Despite this he has a good training compatibility with my Grand Tour leader.


I will show him again with 22 years, then maybe you will see his true potential. He can become a beast IMHO. I've always had superclimbers like Rongstad, Rondeaux, Luc Dupont, Otte... and i can recognize the potential on him. Nobody or only a very few pure climb riders on his generation have his high Recovery+High Mountain+Teamwork+Hills great skills asset.

The competition on this terrain is tough, but he's not too far from Ojeda and Meling right now, and he always has an advantage, Hills or Teamwork, compared with the two.

I dont know if i'll keep him. If i get a superoffer maybe ill put him on the market someday.
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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2018, 11:53:50 am »
STAGE 9 :  MONT VENTOUX / SACIDO


21ºC

Loriol, France,
A lot of hills, a lot of kilometers, and in the middle of the race the notorious Mont Ventoux !
It is up to the Australian Sacido cyclists to score many points here in order to still get a good result this season.

At the moment 5th in the ranking by countries and it will be very hard or even impossible to get on the podium this season.
But Australia is one of the smallest CFF countries, so a top 5 would be awesome too despite the fact the previous two seasons ( when I was u21 NT manager ;) :)) ) Australia u21 had twice a second place. But these results were CFF history records of Australia u21 and that cannot happen every season with such a small CFF country.

Difficult for me to estimate the percentages of this race, so just 1 real xp cyclist is selected and Australia will be in full battle mode with different kind of hills-climbers as extra helpers in case my percentages are wrong. Sam Sand is not selected because he is not active, instead of him Ted Jordan will make his debute, his stamina is way too low for this race but perhaps he can be of use in the first 2 sections and he is not unexperienced, also important in most cases to get a selection for Australia.
Also hard for me to prodict how this race will go so the tactics will be a bit of a gamble, but in any case it seems to me it is important that the team captain still has some help on the Mont Ventoux.

Australia u21 selection ( in blue the xp ) :

Elgin Paxton (20) Sacido   5
Richard King (20) Sacido   7
Nick Owens (19) Sacido   8
Christian Madsen (20) BetisCFF   15
Bruce Woods (20) WYGRAM_to   0
Colin Chambers (20) skunk   4
Nate Owens (20) FlandriaFussion  4
Ted Jordan (20) Telleriarte  5
David Edgar (20) Drollevangers   25   8)

Interesting stage.

You will have a great rival on Gedeon Zola.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2018, 12:02:07 pm »
I've always had superclimbers like Rongstad, Rondeaux, Luc Dupont, Otte... and i can recognize the potential on him.
Rondeaux is awesome !  8)
To be honest, I did not expect he was thát good when I bought him for just 4.1 M a half year ago.
Just a silver climber, never reached gold, but his results show how good he really is, he can easily beat gold climbers. He was also 4th in the NT race of this season.
And what was really unexpected to me, that he finished as 7th and as 8th in the GC of the Tour de France because he has no sprint, no TT, no cobble and no hills. In the different mountain stages he wins a lot of time compared to the GC competition.

You have a good eye for talent, Flandria.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2018, 12:28:23 pm »
I've always had superclimbers like Rongstad, Rondeaux, Luc Dupont, Otte... and i can recognize the potential on him.
Rondeaux is awesome !  8)
To be honest, I did not expect he was thát good when I bought him for just 4.1 M a half year ago.
Just a silver climber, never reached gold, but his results show how good he really is, he can easily beat gold climbers. He was also 4th in the NT race of this season.
And what was really unexpected to me, that he finished as 7th and as 8th in the GC of the Tour de France because he has no sprint, no TT, no cobble and no hills. In the different mountain stages he wins a lot of time compared to the GC competition.

You have a good eye for talent, Flandria.

Me and FrançaiseDesJeux, who adviced me  :D

My good eye is his fault.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2018, 08:23:55 pm »
Dissapointing race ; I gambled with my tactics but the start was too slow.
The only one who got into the points was team captain Paxton, he finished as 8th.
I suspect he could have done a little bit better if the tactics turned out the way I wanted, but that was not the case.

Nick Owens showed he is a very good 19yo climbhills talent. He finished as 2nd best 19yo on the 34th place.
But the best 19yo, a Russian, finished as 7th. Impressive !

Australia u21 still on the 5th place in the ranking by countries and it is looking good top 5 will be possible after next week, the final stage.

But first something way more important ;
let's see how the u23 does this evening in their thrilling battle for the world championship versus Denmark.
Finish in 6 minutes ! Go Go Go Australia u23 !  8)

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2018, 11:07:54 am »
Australian NT candidates next season :

I m candidate for the elite NT team next season.
I guess it is my turn to do the least favorite Australian NT, and a good experience for me because it will my debut as elite NT manager.
When someone else wants to do the elite NT, no problem. Probably I will not be a candidate then.
Also fine by me if I m not an Australian NT manager next season, and also fine by me if I do the u21 or u23.
So I m very flexible about this, so far I m the only candidate, there are no candidates yet for the youth NT's.
Note ; I think it is important we have a good u23 NT manager next season (for example Telamon, AA or WiC). See next paragraph.

This season the u23 has a very good generation ( almost certain u23 world champion ! ).
I know that next season could be even a better u23 generation, although the Dutch will be a fierce competitor for the u23 world championship.

If the u21 has a good generation next season ? ; well, a few good talents but I suspect not a great generation but I could be wrong.
More info about that later, I will post the lists of the next generation tomorrow or monday.

70 cyclists ( including 36 x 19yo's )

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2018, 12:42:28 pm »
Selection and preview in progress ; it will be made and posted this afternoon.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2018, 01:47:42 pm »
Waiting for stage analysis.

Its a shame Sam Sand manager is not entering the game in consecuence Australia lose a really really good climber for sure.

Also i came to say the australian star Henry Aldrin is on sale.
Perfect for teams that will train lot of Technique.

Henry Aldrin   Edad : 20   Sueldo : 832
Resistencia : 62   Sprint : 12   Montaña : 87
LLano : 21   Pavés : 31   Tecnica : 6
Descenso : 73   Colinas : 26   Agres : 38
Crono : 63   TraEqui : 75   Experiencia : 7

Precio : 500 000   Dias Quedan : 3   
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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2018, 01:53:38 pm »
We've decided on the team to give the lead on the mountains to Nate Owens, who will become without any doubt a superstar climber for the future and will take Australia to the highest levels on 1st divission.

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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2018, 02:58:58 pm »
Good news that you will be training Nate Owens, Flandria. The Australian talents need a very good manager.  8)
A bit busy at the moment, in an hour or so I will make the selection and preview.
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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2018, 04:54:21 pm »
stage 10 : PROLOGUE of 7 KM

28ºC

Grenada, Spain,

As you can see in the picture the training of the u21 selection was including track training to ride the prologue even more aggressive.
The objective of the final stage this season is simple ; to hold on to the 5th place in the ranking by countries.
This would be a very good result of such a little CFF country as Australia.
Of course, the previous two seasons the u21 NT was second, but unfortunately such awesome generations cannot happen every time.

And there is just one Australian TT-specialist who can score points in this race, David Edgar, and I suspect he will do pretty good.
The 3 selected 19yo TT-talents are not good enough yet, and 2 of them will make their debut here to keep them in the game, more chance of that when they are youth international. Perhaps they could become future prologue specialists and score some points for Australia.
The other 5 selected cyclists are also xp cyclists ; promising 19yo's and the two 20yo's who scored the best (both a 2nd place) this season.

Australia u21 selection ( in blue the xp ) :

David Edgar (20) Drollevangers   26   8)  Australian u21 record international after this race
- - - - - - - - -
Sean Wind (19) teamsophia   5
Dave Mikkelson (19) teamsophia   0 debut
Franklin Lawson (19) UDVillel   0  debut
- - - - - - - - -
Nick Owens (19) Sacido   10  very promising hills-climber
Bud Pierre (19) HtcItalia   3  promising hills-specialist, debut
Vince Judd (19) escartines_neverdie   1  promising sprinter
- - - - - - - - -
and a tribute to the best Australians of this u21 season :
Angus Mikkelson (20) WinterIsComing   14
Richard King (20) Sacido  8
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Re: Australia: U21 Season 36
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2018, 12:23:38 am »
A 2nd place of David Edgar, and that makes him the best Australian cyclists of this u21 season because he was 3rd in the normal time trial.
France did not score points in this prologue and that means Australia is up one place in the ranking by countries. :)